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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:12 AM
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thought experiment: Is the oil slick large enough to alter the weather and in what way?
Edited on Sat May-01-10 12:26 AM by John N Morgan
Oil prevents evaporation. Evaporation is a cooling effect on the body of water. Will the Gulf of Texaco be a breeding ground for super-hurricanes due to the heat?

Effectively the question is: will the oil slick cause the gulf to increase in temperature and by how much? Then if not hurricanes how about drought?

The size of the spill got me thinking.

Will next winter be very mild in Europe? Will this cause faster ice melts up north?

Hey, an inquiring mind has to know?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:38 AM
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1. What will hurricanes do with the oil on the surface??
Pick it up and paint the entire southern coast with a fine mist of crude???

Hmmm.....
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:43 AM
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4. The water will be hotter than normal under the oil. The hurricane breaks up the slick enough
to expose the hot water; hence, hurricane fuel.

I guess the first clue would be to watch the first low that forms north of the spill and watch the warm front to see if it's acting the way it should. It should pick up the moisture and take it north, if we start seeing dry warm fronts, this gets weird.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:19 AM
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14. They'll go sliding across the gulf, trip over Mexico, and land in the pacific.
What we need to do is fill the pacific with banana peels, so it will just keep going to Asia.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:41 AM
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2. If it puts another stake in the heart of fossil fuel use,
Edited on Sat May-01-10 12:42 AM by WheelWalker
that can only help to advance renewable energy and thereby ameliorate climate change caused by the use of fossil fuels.
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:49 AM
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7. It may turn out that this spill so costly we cannot afford the chance of another.
We have not begun to calculate the cost of this disaster.

That spot in the gulf is a "hot spot" as it is. I would like to think NOAA is already on it.
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:43 AM
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3. As a hang-glider pilot...
The semi-evil side of me wonders whether the oil will heat up and create more thermals. However, I wouldn't want to count on that...
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:46 AM
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5. I'm a pilot, PPL, and that's where the thought started. I'm always interested in weather
What would a dry warm front act like?
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:55 AM
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9. Dry and warm would make for heavier lifting air
Wet air (high humidity) is lighter since water vapor is lighter than air (I think that's how it works). So yeah, it might make for good thermals. I'd be a little afraid of turbulence though. Npow light the oil on fire and I might have to get a hot dog and a REALLY long stick :D It might even come out deep fried.
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:26 AM
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17. The smell ... ewwww. you might land looking like one of those birds.
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:15 PM
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19. Yeah, that would probably be pretty bad...
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:48 AM
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6. How far out is hurricane season?
Could a hurricane hit during relief hole drilling efforts in 60 days?
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 12:50 AM
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8. June 1, 2010 to November 30, 2010. So, yep.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:02 AM
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10. Right now, the slick covers an area that's only a fraction the size of the Gulf
I doubt it has any measurable effect on weather except on an extremely local level. Also, the slick isn't one contiguous blob, in the general area of the slick there may be areas that have little or no oil.
In the event of a hurricane, the oil will have little effect, IMO. Sailors of old used oil (generally fish oil) to calm the breaking tops of waves, but the wave action in a hurricane is so violent I don't think the oil would have much effect. Mostly, the waves would just spread the oil around a lot more, which will make a mess but may help it disperse and evaporate more quickly.
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:25 AM
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16. The sheen is a slick as well. Not just the globs. That location is a hot spot as it is.
Edited on Sat May-01-10 01:32 AM by John N Morgan
When the hurricanes break up the slick to expose the hotter than normal water, there WILL be an affect.

The sheen is apparently already hitting Alabama and Florida, so, it's not small.

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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:05 AM
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11. Black sludge attracts solar heat. Walk across black pavement on a sunny hot day.
No idea if it would show any change in water temp. If it keeps growing, who knows?
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:20 AM
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15. Asphault doesn't attract solar heat. It just doesn't reflect it. However, your point
is taken to mean the reflectivity of the water may be reduced adding another source of additional heat absorption.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:07 AM
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12. Question, Anyone know what the temps are in that area of the Gulf?
Pretty warm this time of year I imagine.
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John N Morgan Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:17 AM
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13. It's pre-hurrican season. The least that will happen is the water will get an early start at
getting hot. And that stretch IS a hot spot.

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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 01:34 AM
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18. Try this
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