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Sat May-01-10 09:37 AM
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30 rounds allegedly fired at deputy Pearl, superficial wound, massive search |
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Edited on Sat May-01-10 09:38 AM by lonestarnot
for allegedly 5 suspects unproductive in producing anyone. So WTF, did this really happen? Or are those "5" suspects just a figment of some AZ resident's imagination?
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Sat May-01-10 09:39 AM
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1. something smells...5 against 1 and |
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Sat May-01-10 09:47 AM
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5. Was he wearing a protective vest of some type |
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Most Law Enforcement is required to wear a protective vest.
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Sat May-01-10 07:20 PM
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it will just slow the round, maybe deform it... but it will still go in.
No reality is that a lot of lead flies at shootouts without anybody getting hit. Which is a GOOD THING...
(Yes, been there, done that got the T-SHIRT, and the post shooting shakes)
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Sat May-01-10 09:39 AM
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2. Who is deputy Pearl? Thanks. nt |
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Sat May-01-10 09:47 AM
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4. Deputy in a brown suit who says 5 "illegal immigrant drug smugglers" shot him. |
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Sat May-01-10 09:56 AM
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12. Lousy shots for Mexican drug smugglers. Not that I wish the deppity dead, but... |
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I suspect there will be more to this story.
(Or, it will drop like the amazing disappearing stone.)
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Sat May-01-10 09:59 AM
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17. with an alleged AK no less. |
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Sat May-01-10 12:03 PM
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26. so much for killing every motherfucker in the room! |
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Sat May-01-10 10:37 AM
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21. Thanks -- I'll go look it up. Is there a bullet wound? nt |
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Sat May-01-10 09:45 AM
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3. Maybe but my first choice isn't to blame the "victim" or say the rape victim is lying |
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Edited on Sat May-01-10 09:48 AM by stray cat
There is a wounded victim and I assume evidence of rounds being fired. It will be easy enough to check out the basics of the story - if others were involved they prefered to get away and were not set on cold blooded murder.
or crappy marksmen...
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Sat May-01-10 09:48 AM
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6. Why haven't any of the five been located in such a massive search in a 10 mile radius? |
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Sat May-01-10 09:53 AM
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8. Lessee.... If my math is correct that's an area of about 314 square miles.... |
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Hell of a lot of ground to cover...
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Sat May-01-10 09:56 AM
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11. With how many choppers in the air? |
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Sat May-01-10 09:52 AM
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7. One has to wonder when said deputy reports that he was shot by "illegal immigrants" |
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Yet none of them are in custody and there are no names, and no identification, so how did he know they were "illegal immigrants"?
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Sat May-01-10 09:55 AM
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9. I wondered that as well |
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Do we automatically assume anyone walking in that part of AZ who looks Hispanic is illegal?
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Sat May-01-10 09:57 AM
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14. and he was barely grazed by an AK47 |
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More fishy than the Louisiana coast right now.
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Sat May-01-10 10:00 AM
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18. Most hilarious part of the story. |
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Sat May-01-10 10:18 AM
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20. Illegal immigrants don't carry AK-47s. Stupid caucasian racists do. |
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Sat May-01-10 12:06 PM
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27. I'm thinking that caucasion racists are more apt to carry AR-15's. I'm sure you can find a cite for |
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Sat May-01-10 03:04 PM
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28. Your Limbaughesque antics seldom fail to amuse me. |
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Sat May-01-10 07:00 PM
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Limbaughesque... that's funny!
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Sat May-01-10 09:57 AM
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15. Alleged bail of MJ sitting in the open air. |
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Must be "illegal" Mexicans. :sarcasm:
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Sat May-01-10 07:33 PM
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37. Weeeeeell, MJ does sometimes fall outta the sky around there |
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Had a friend who was out with her brother, taking pictures, when outta the sky.... low and slow, a plane came near, and out fell some bales. Plane dipped its wing to wave a them, and headed off back south. Friend was on the horns of a dilemma! She and her bro did the right thing, but she said there was a slight delay while they wrestled with their ethics.
Evidently, her truck looked like the one the smugglers were told to look for. :rofl:
There is (or used to be, been a while since I was there) balloon tethered in Sierra Vista, and it does radar scans, supposedly for busting smugglers. Only the beam gets turned off (so they say) for a few degrees, in the direction of Kitt Peak Observatory. Guess which way the small planes come in.
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Sat May-01-10 10:00 AM
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19. Exactly. This stinks like a staged fish.nm |
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Sat May-01-10 10:45 AM
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23. I think he probably was shot like he said |
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Edited on Sat May-01-10 10:46 AM by Tailormyst
Except that he used the wrong description. He was shot by DRUG TRAFFICKERS not illegal IMMIGRANTS. There is a big difference between those crossing the border to live and work here and those just running drugs and guns over the border.
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Sat May-01-10 07:23 PM
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Sat May-01-10 09:55 AM
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10. NPR: Shooters were suspected drug smugglers |
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Sat May-01-10 09:56 AM
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13. Get used to this - there will be false claims and there will be attacks provoked by the new law |
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...this is exactly what the Republicans are hoping for - an all out war on 'wet backs' :eyes: :puke:
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Sat May-01-10 09:58 AM
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16. And of course on April 30. |
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Sat May-01-10 10:40 AM
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22. Remember Tawana Brawley? |
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Edited on Sat May-01-10 10:42 AM by Catshrink
Kind of reminds me of her or of the woman who carved the backward "B" on her cheek and blamed it on a large black man. Or it's a ploy to make SB1070 not seem so draconian after all and to show the nation that AZ really needs this law.
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Sat May-01-10 10:46 AM
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24. This kind of crap happens all the time |
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The only reason it's being reported now is because of the controversy over the AZ law and them trying to drum up support.
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Sat May-01-10 11:25 AM
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25. If right wingers control the government there, there might be a cover up. |
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Edited on Sat May-01-10 11:25 AM by Democat
Let's see where this goes. I doubt they will let this guy go down even if he's lying.
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Sat May-01-10 07:18 PM
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32. There MIGHT be a staged or imagined incident to try and justify their shitty law |
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Sat May-01-10 07:17 PM
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31. The way AP framed the thing, it smells of PR damage control by pro Papers Please Bigots |
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Did from the get-go.
The bad guys had AK-47s and were "illegal immigrants" and deputy got a scuffed ass, with a helicopter handy? IN A PIG'S EYE!
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Sat May-01-10 07:19 PM
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33. Sounds like the old Italian sharpshooter joke: |
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Q Who put 21 holes in Mussolini?
A 5000 Italian sharpshooters.
And I'm half Sicilian, btw, in case the reader is from the thin-skinned PC crowd.
wp
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Sat May-01-10 07:24 PM
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36. Let's assume that it happened, (and yes somebody went to the hospital) |
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and that somebody was VERY LUCKY.
1.- AK -47 rounds are NOT stopped by a police vest... it simply does not have enough layers in the Kevlar to do that... that is why those vests should be more properly called BULLET RESISTANT, not BULLET PROOF.
2.- In any shooting I have been at A LOT OF LEAD tends to fly and not hit anything. Thirty rounds, that's a magazine or two...
3.- Yes, some of the coyotes are carrying AK-s these days, as well as the drug dealers.
4.- As usual one has to ask, when readying a story in the paper, cui bono.
By the way, this comes from pretty first hand experience in more than one shoot out. Hell, I even crawled into the middle of one to drag an Officer down (No he was not grazed, but pretty fucked up) and was able to avoid getting hit. Never mind the were mosquitoes flying pretty damn close.
Oh and of course, to the boys and girls manning echelon, since I went into things that might trigger it... FUCK HOOVER!!!!
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