If it is discovered that the attempted bomber is a right-wing tea-bagger..?

[kentuck]

Would FOX News, Glen Beck, Sarah Palin, and Rush Limbaugh be partly responsible for his actions? Would it have happened without their encouragement?

Of course, we don't yet know who did it but this may very well be the case?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. You will hear a denial from here to the end of eternity

[metapunditedgy]

2. Right up to their next denial when this happens again... n/t

[Robb]

3. Pressure cooker. Gas cylinders. At the risk of being adumbrative

I don't think our Times Square bomber is from around here. Pressure cooker bombs and gas cylinder bombs are pure Punjab jihadi, plenty of examples out there. I can't think of a single American example of a bomb being built this way, maybe someone else can.

[kentuck]

5. Very possible.

I wonder why the firecrackers???

Could this have been just a trial run??

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Actually I wonder if our boy

got some ideas from Mythbusters...

Points to what a few weeks ago episode...

Damn if there is any connection there goes a good program

:-)

Yes, they were doing that... and trying to get a critical failure and didn't quite achieve it.

So if this guy is local... copycat of a TV program.

And I just remembered that little detail. But the description of the "device" are way too similar to the Mythbuster program.

[ShortnFiery]

9. Americans could not learn from others? We don't know squat about this yet.

[babylonsister]

12. Read this this a.m. and found it interesting...

could be the source for the idea; anything's possible.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8256900#8256934




One thing that did strike me about this...a couple days ago they reran the Mythbusters episode about blowing up propane tanks...unless the tank it altered, there's a safety valve that would release the pressure and prevent a store bought cannister from exploding. It would have to be modified and the safety disabled for it to be lethal. Just found the timing very curious...

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. I posted the same tihng above

Damn... minds think alike... and I just made that connection as going mentally over the program, I watch it, and the contents that we have been told about...

[babylonsister]

15. I don't watch it, but obviously a lot of folks do; hey, stranger things

have happened. People get/find ideas off the internetz all the time, why not teevee?

[RC]

34. Ahhh, and just where would this propane tank vent to?

Inside the enclosed space of the car, correct? The propane tank would not have to explode.

[GreenTea]

4. Anything to point the finger at Obama to say he's soft on terrorism.

If the bomb went off that's exactly the way republicans you mentioned would spin it..."Obama's not keeping us safe"....expect more of these planned setups to blame Obama, as they try to paint Bush as the president who "kept us safe" yet always conveniently forget 9-11 occurred a full eight months (from January to September) after Bush was in office and with many warnings that it was going to occur...of course they wanted it to....gave Bush & the neocon republicans free rein for a corporate fascist agenda & policies for eight years.

[Turbineguy]

6. A lone nut.

[ShortnFiery]

8. Oh stop with the speculation. The tea-baggers are nuts but they are NOT, IMO,

killers. :(

[kentuck]

10. Of course not.

They are all perfectly stable and sane.

[ShortnFiery]

11. NO, I didn't say that either. But really, the obsession some here have with FR

and other right wingers is IMO, not healthy.

Most of my extended family are secular right wingers. They are NOT dangerous - they disagree with us and think some of us are "nuts" but many, deep down, are good people and good Americans.

[MrModerate]

25. And McVeigh was on the fringe of the fringe . . .

But he still got his ideological marching orders from the heart of the wingnut universe.

I don't think it's inappropriate to worry that teabaggers might have a few deranged killers in their ranks. Frankly, it strikes me as quite likely. Words have power -- especially over the semicrazy -- and there's no denying that their words are provocative, dangerous, inflammatory.

The following bon mot is frighteningly on the money: "If you're hearing crazy voices in your head, stop listening to Fox News."

[paulsby]

33. mcveigh got his marching orders from the turner diaries

which would be anathema to any teabagger i know

[MrModerate]

35. Can't say I know any teabaggers personally, so maybe . . .

I have to defer to you on what their response might be.

But do you really think that McVeigh read that one book and decided to destroy a building? Or did he steep himself in the same irrational hatred of government that is at the heart of the teabagger movement -- just as other wingnuts are doing today -- and then make the choice to act out his sick fantasies?

[Xipe Totec]

16. Absolutely!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXP9YFc4k3Y

[ShortnFiery]

22. Then you folks, when you focus on the Poor and Stupid = most teabaggers are

serving the ruling elites of this country. Make no mistake, when they are done with you, they'll bankrupt you too. Look at what the "establishment" democrats have done for their base?

Right, next to nothing.

[gratuitous]

14. Tell Vernon Hunter that . . .

Oh wait, you can't.

[ShortnFiery]

17. Yes, isolated examples are so useful when it's the CORPORATIONS who are screwing

us ALL, we choose to bicker with each other.

The Political Ruling Elites love it when us proles fight against one another.

[gratuitous]

19. You just said the tea-baggers aren't killers

I mentioned one of their victims. And now you want to re-channel that into an "isolated example"? Whatever. It's no sin to be wrong; but stubborn is just plain unsmart.

[ShortnFiery]

20. And there are left-wing killers too. We could play this stupid game all day.

While the people who are breaking the backs of the working classes, the large mega-corporations laugh their asses off.

FOCUS on who it really the ENEMY of the Working Peoples of the USA? It's not the dumb ass teabaggers nor the left wing pinkos such as myself, it's the bloated, dirty, rotten, stinking, filthy rich MEGA-CORPORATIONS and BANKSTERS who are stealing us blind.

[MrModerate]

26. Actually, I'd like to play the stupid game a little longer . . .

Name me a "left-wing killer" who's performed a political assassination recently. I honestly can't think of one.

Also, I think a rant about rapacious corporations is maybe a trifle off-topic when the question is "who planted an amateur car bomb in NYC."

[ShortnFiery]

36. Not recently, but plenty in the past. Nope, this ISSUE is also about CORPORATE Greed.

It always comes down to POWER and MONEY. :-)

[MrModerate]

37. It also always comes down to OXYGEN and DIRT. So what? n/t

[gratuitous]

38. Well, if it's a "stupid" game

Then it appears you've won. You said the tea baggers weren't killers, given evidence to the contrary, you'd now like the subject to be anything except whether the tea baggers are killers. They clearly are. Now, you'd like it to be about left wing killers. Or corporations. What's next? Whether the Red Sox have enough left-handed pitching?

[ThoughtCriminal]

18. Just a WAG here

(WAG = Wild Ass Guess) that this one is going ro be a mixed bag of crazy motivations, some will fit tea-party ideology, some will not.

[Aristus]

21. Never. These are the idiots who have got other idiots believing that Hitler was a liberal.

You just can't counter that level of sub-animalistic, bone-thick stupidity.

"Hitler was a liberal." That's just about the stupidest thing anybody even vaguely resembling a human being could possibly ever, ever say... :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

23. They're idiots but they're little league compared to the big league TERRORISTS = Banksters. eom

[tularetom]

24. You'll never hear another word about it

[Kahuna]

27. All of the M$M will play it down. You will never heard it referred to

by any of the clever names DUers have been using (teahadist, etc).

[Warpy]

28. That news would never see the light of day

He'd be dismissed as another lone nutcase who was generally made at the world.

Trust me, his reading or listening material will never be disclosed unless he's a left wing loony.

[Gman]

29. I think it's unlikely this was a teabagger

in spite of what Beck, Palin, Limbaugh, et al want. I read something earlier today, didn't keep the link, that said a similarly constructed bomb was found in London recently. Its likely right wing Islamics that did it.

[kentuck]

30. I think the most rabid tea-baggers are from the South and the West..

You may be right.

[boston bean]

31. I heard the suspect resembles Glenn Beck. nt

:)

[paulsby]

32. no. no more than al gore is responsible for the latest ALF or ELF bombing

it's the "nutcase veto" in action

also, sometimes "it very well may be the case" tends to bite people in the ass. NOBODY here predicted the ft hood shooting was a islamist terrorist before the news came out that he was, despite the fact that the last person who had fragged the troops was similarly motivated.

people here are focused on ONE and ONE threat only.

[political_Dem]

39. They'll try to deny it.

Because if it does come out that the "domestic terrorist" is a Teabagger, the RNC are going to do their best to distance themselves from the man.

After all, they want to get back those seats in Congress by all means necessary.

Even more disturbing is the fact that if the perpetrator is a Teabagger, others of his ilk will champion him as a hero. Not one of the Republicans batted an eye with Sean Hannity called the Teabagging crowd "followers of Timothy McVeigh".