COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer

[Elmore Furth]

I blame the parents for not emphasizing following directions when they brought up this terrorist.

The would-be car-bomber who left an SUV loaded with propane and gas cans, fireworks and timing devices on a Times Square street also had more than 100 pounds of fertilizer, but not the kind that would explode, police said today.

Praise for cops, firefighters and street vendor; manhunt continues for bomber.Instead of ammonium nitrate, the kind of fertilizer used by Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, the person who abandoned the van on the crowded New York City street had a metal gun locker full of a harmless fertilizer, New York City Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said.

While it is unknown who the potential bomber is, or the bomber's motive, officials told ABC, that if that person were not aware of the characteristics of the fertilizer it could point to the fact that the bomber did not know what he was doing.

Sources also told ABC News that the valves on the propane tanks were not open, which would have made it less likely that the gas inside would have ignited.


COPS: Times Square Car Bomber Got the Wrong Fertilizer
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[Rex]

1. This is one time stupidity saved the day. Thank God.

I have no doubt it is a Teabagging scumbucket.

[Liberal_in_LA]

2. not al Queda obviously...they do their homework

[Rex]

6. Yeah this has the smell of home brewed terrorists.

I'm thinking of the right wing, milita type.

[AnnieBW]

30. Well, they DID want to have a guy explode his underwear...

Maybe they're not as smart as we think.

[MUAD_DIB]

11. Spot on. Anti-intellectualism is at work in America

and it actually saved NY some serious pain.

[Rex]

22. Strange ain't it!? We are praising ignorance and stupidity for saving the day.

Up is down now.

[MUAD_DIB]

31. We're praising the *right's stupidity.

*Until proven otherwise I will think of this failed bomber as a righty. I may have to rescind that later, but until that happens...nuts.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

27. Guess he was studying his bible when he should have been studying chemistry

[Botany]

3. Hoot! It has to be a Freeper

[EFerrari]

16. LOL

:rofl:

[AwakeAtLast]

29. That's exactly what I thought!

:rofl:

[northernlights]

51. I was thinking maybe a bucket full of chicket shit nt

[RagAss]

4. Jeeezus...what are they doing, giving bomb making lessons ????

[Botany]

7. no this is chemistry 101 .... all of this is in the public domain

TNT = Trinitrotoluene (high nitrogen)
Nitroglycerin = trinitroglycerine (high nitrogen)

Hell I tried to buy some Urea (high nitrogen) for fertilizer and it is off the market now
Ammonia nitrate is hard to come by now too .... thanx to the Oklahoma bombing.

I can see this guy trying to use Scotts' Weed n Feed in his plot. :rofl:

[formercia]

53. You have to know how to read first.

Labels for a start.

:rofl:

[jberryhill]

9. Yes, and for good reason...

Anyone purchasing enough of the correct materials will be noticed.

Then there are the taggants - and you can google that too.

[Codeine]

35. Far more explicit instructions are a Google search away.

Or crack open your handy-dandy Anarchist Cookbook if you're in an analog state of mind.

Bombs aren't rocket science (though, to be fair, I suppose rockets are a kind of bomb science.)

[onehandle]

5. Rookie mistake. The next budding McVeigh will not make that mistake.

McVeigh's bomb recipe is as easy to find as his rabid gun rights beliefs.

[cliffordu]

12. What did his gun rights beliefs have to do with the bomb recipe??

Or are you just doing drive by associations...

[QC]

8. Fish emulsion? n/t

[Historic NY]

10. Definitely not a gardner or farmer.

[O is 44]

13. Had to comment..love that pic of O & Teddy, too cute! n/t

[riverwalker]

14. Miracle Grow, and M-80 firecrackers

I smell home grown RW nut. Soggy tea bagger for sure.

[ShortnFiery]

33. Or Black Ops? Got to keep us proles afraid and pro-war. eom

[HughMoran]

15. Sounds like they watched the McVeigh special (on MSNBC) and thought they could be just like him

I'm dreading what comes out of the mouth of this fool when they catch him. :eyes:

[O is 44]

19. I know, that is scary if he was inspired by that murderer

I really hope they catch him.

[Berry Cool]

17. If he turns out to be a teabagger, it'll be obvious the kind of fertilizer he brought along.

The kind he already had an endless ready-made supply of: horse manure.

[spanone]

18. his attorney has filed a lawsuit against home depot

:rofl:

[BuelahWitch]

20. Dear Teabaggers, cat poo does not work!

:hi:

[pocoloco]

28. Need pigeon poo!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. A Miracle-Gro and firecracker bomb doesn't sound like an al-Qaeda operation.

It does sound like something Billy-Bob and Cletus might come up with after pleasuring themselves while watching Sarah Palin on YouTube and knocking down a bottle or two of Old Crow.

[Botany]

24. they might have tried Scotts' Weed n Feed

:rofl:

[Codeine]

39. "Apply in late spring"

Dumbasses can't even follow instructions! Car bombs are seasonal!

[sendero]

26. LOL.....

. I think you nailed it :)

[BlooInBloo]

23. My gawd Americans are so fucking stupid.

Guess this is one of the rare instances where I'm ok with it, though.

[PopSixSquish]

25. Praise Jeebus for Stupidity!

They ought to televise the police interrogation when they catch this moran. It ought to be a humdinger...

[ShortnFiery]

32. Super-Genius? eom

[doc03]

34. That settles it the moran has to be a Teabagger n/t

[Codeine]

36. I'm waiting for the Teabagger sign;

"I bilt a kar-bom!"

[Name removed]

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[lpbk2713]

38. It's beginning to sound like ...

this guy was to terrorism what Dumbya was to prezidentin'.





Good thing for New York.

[WeDidIt]

40. Bullshit Bomber of Times Square

:rofl:

[kestrel91316]

41. The perp was probably christian fundie homeschooled.

Critical thinking, ability to read big scientific words like chemical names, and basic chemistry so as to understand what makes some chemicals different from others..........sadly lacking here.....

[mindwalker_i]

42. Ooooohhhh Grasshopper...

Must be smarter than fertilizer.

(Never thought I have a chance to post this one)

(on edit: +s)

[jgraz]

43. Ha! EPIC FAIL for the Talibubba.

:rofl:

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Truly amateour hour or probe

need more info to decide which one is more likely

Doing a lot of readying in between lines.

[Warren DeMontague]

45. First we had the shoe bomber, then the underwear bomber, this guy is the shit bomber.

Or maybe the "doody bomber"... sort of like a 'dirty bomb'.... but with doody.



Anyway, I'm going to jump ahead and speculate that years of anti-science gibberish on the wacko right is probably coming home to roost. This is what happens when you teach your would-be Talibornagains that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and Jesus rode a dinosaur.

[Kablooie]

47. It's not as easy as it looks to be a world class notorious murderer.

[Warren DeMontague]

49. I'm sure the emphasis on faith-based science doesn't help.

But in this case, that's a good thing.

[Kablooie]

46. When they catch this buffoon I sure hope they reveal his radio and tv watching habits.

And his alias on the Free Republic website.

[Hekate]

48. Thank God for incompetence

Guess that locker was full of good old steer manure :eyes:

Hekate

[skip fox]

50. Another reason for fertilizer? The aborted bomber's homage to McVeigh.

b]Parallels between NY City attempted bombing and Timothy McVeigh’s bombing:

The botched NY bombing shares a number of striking parallels with the Timothy McVeigh bombing in Oklahoma City beside the obvious vehicle-building-walk-cooly-away narrative . . . although that, in itself, is very compelling–the botched bomber replicating the act of his (or her?) hero in broad strokes. But there seem to be a couple light strokes as well.

The botched bomber placed eight bags of fertilizer which the investigators say was non-explosive, into a gun box. If he knew the fertilizer was useless, it would be a clear homage to McVeigh. (The gun box being a tip of the hat to McVeigh's military background.) (If he didn't know this it could still be an homage, hoping to replicate his hero's methods as closely as possible.)

The NY attempted bomber locked the van's doors, leaving the keys inside. Some accounts say McVeigh left the keys in the Ryder's cab and locked the doors. (I think the case is that he took the keys, but there is no accounting where these people get their information. Source: http://history1900s.about.com/cs/crimedisaster/p/okcitybombing.htm)

Fireworks went off in the NY van alerting vendors. The attempted bomber appeared to be inept in a number of ways, so it is not likely that the clock set off the fireworks. It is more likely that he lit a long fuse. Similarly, McVeigh lit two fuses just before he left the Ryder.


Additionally, MSNBC played a show based on The McVeigh Tapes: Confessions of an American Terrorist on the 19th of April.

I could be way off, but if I was leading the investigation I'd be putting resources into this question, hoping to find him before he is successful with his homicidal intentions.


Therefore, in an investiation taking these matters seriously:

I’d look into far-right web/hate sites, those where McVeigh is discussed glowingly. Maybe Free Republic.

Since the person’s issues were important enough to kill for, I think his alignment to McVeigh would be apparent in his screen name (anagram of “Timothy McVeigh”? a character’s name in The Turner Diaries?)

I'd look very closely at those who passionately referenced MSNBC’s April 19th The McVeigh Tapes: those who ranted against MSNBC's commentary and/or those who relished new McVeigh quotes from the tapes.

I’d perhaps put some resources looking into the extreme fringe of the Tea Party, but I think the far-right hate sites would be more fruitful . . . (In which case the FBI should soon be onto him . . . or her!)igh parallels:

[npk]

52. That is so typical of the teabaggers

They always overlook the small details. If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.