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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:49 AM
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Was the failed NY bomber a Timothy McVeigh idolizer??? It seems so.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 10:09 AM by skip fox
Parallels between NY City attempted bombing and Timothy McVeigh’s bombing:

The botched NY bombing shares a number of striking parallels with the Timothy McVeigh bombing in Oklahoma City beside the obvious vehicle-building-walk-away narrative although that, in itself, is very compelling–the botched bomber replicating the act of his (or her?) hero in broad strokes. But there seem to be light strokes as well.

The botched bomber used fertilizer which the investigators say was non-explosive, placing it into a gun box. If he knew the fertilizer was useless, it would be a clear homage to McVeigh. (The gun box being a tip of the hat to McVeigh's military background.) (If he didn't know this it could still be an homage.)

The NY attempted bomber locked the van's doors, leaving the keys inside. Some accounts say McVeigh left the keys in the Ryder's cab and locked the doors. (I think the case is that he took the keys, but there is no accounting where these people get their information. Source: http://history1900s.about.com/cs/crimedisaster/p/okcitybombing.htm)

Fireworks went off in the van alerting vendors. If the attempted bomber was so inept with clocks, it is likely that he lit a long fuse. Similarly, McVeigh lit two fuses just before or as he left the Ryder.

Additionally, MSNBC played a show based on The McVeigh Tapes: Confessions of an American Terrorist on the 19th of April.

I could be way off, but if I was leading the investigation I'd be putting resources into this question, hoping to find him before he is successful with his (of her?) homicidal intentions.

Therefore, in an investiation taking these matters seriously:

I’d look into far-right web/hate sites, those where McVeigh is discussed glowingly. Maybe Free Republic.

Since the person’s issues were important enough to kill for, I think his alignment to McVeigh would be apparent in his screen name (anagram of “Timothy McVeigh”? a character’s name in The Turner Diaries?)

I look very closely at those who passionately referenced MSNBC’s April 19th The McVeigh Tapes.

I’d perhaps put some resource looking into the extreme fringe of the Tea Party, but I think the far-right hate sites would be more fruitful . . . (In which case the FBI should soon be onto him . . . or her!)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:52 AM
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1. Free Republic and Storm Front are probably the guy's favorite haunts.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:55 AM
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2. Check who RimJob has scrubbed from his site recently. n/t
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 09:58 AM
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3. LOL, another use of the term 'turn'.
Edited on Mon May-03-10 10:01 AM by RandomThoughts
Turning is an action, it depends where you turn to.


A great use of interpretation there.


There was one song that had no turning, that was walk through the fire, with the line.
"So I will walk through the fire, where else can I turn."

But many movies and such have turning, I think it in part comes from Plato the cave. Where people stare at the shadows on the wall, and will not turn to the light, but instead attack the people trying to show it to them. Another way I like to look at the Riddick glasses, even if looking into the light is difficult, get some glasses till you can see the light.


Maybe it depends what you think is good and bad. People see things in different ways. Its all about context, and not being in linear time, so that what something might mean one day, means something else on another. I find that interesting. For instance, you could see the turning to light in the listen to your heart part as being after the other playing of the video, letting the video have two meanings.

And there are many uses of turning in the bible also. So again it is all context.


However that does not change the arguments in the comments.

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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:33 AM
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4. any oher parallels? I've been loiking, but my computer skills are not great.
My speculative skills might not be great either, but I thought I'd get this out.
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