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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:25 PM
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EXCLUSIVE - Secret Erik Prince/Blackwater Tape Exposed: Geneva Conv'ns Don't Apply With 'Barbarians'
Edited on Mon May-03-10 06:40 PM by Hissyspit
http://rebelreports.com/post/569103736/secret-erik-prince-blackwater-tape-exposed

Secret Erik Prince/Blackwater Tape Exposed

The reclusive Blackwater founder tries to ban journalists and recorders from his speeches in front of friendly audiences. This time he failed.


By Jeremy Scahill

(Note: This post, written for TheNation.com, will be posted on The Nation magazine’s homepage soon as part of the launch of a new blog. I am posting it here until the site is fully functional because of the timely nature of the story. Please check The Nation site for exciting developments.)

Erik Prince, the reclusive owner of the Blackwater empire, rarely gives public speeches and when he does he attempts to ban journalists from attending and forbids recording or videotaping of his remarks. On May 5, that is exactly what Prince is trying to do when he speaks at DeVos Fieldhouse as the keynote speaker for the “Tulip Time Festival” in his hometown of Holland, Michigan. He told the event’s organizers no news reporting could be done on his speech and they consented to the ban. Journalists and media associations in Michigan are protesting this attempt to bar reporting on his remarks.

Despite Prince’s attempts to shield his speeches from public scrutiny, The Nation magazine has obtained an audio recording of a recent, private speech delivered by Prince to a friendly audience. The speech, which Prince attempted to keep from public consumption, provides a stunning glimpse into his views and future plans and reveals details of previously undisclosed activities of Blackwater. The people of the United States have a right to media coverage of events featuring the owner of a company that generates 90% of its revenue from the United States government.

In the speech, Prince proposed that the US government deploy armed private contractors to fight “terrorists” in Nigeria, Yemen, Somalia and Saudi Arabia, specifically to target Iranian influence. He expressed disdain for the Geneva Convention and described Blackwater’s secretive operations at four Forward Operating Bases he controls in Afghanistan. He called those fighting the US in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan “barbarians” who “crawled out of the sewer.” Prince also revealed details of a July 2009 operation he claims Blackwater forces coordinated in Afghanistan to take down a narcotrafficking facility, saying that Blackwater “call(ed) in multiple air strikes,” blowing up the facility. Prince boasted that his forces had carried out the “largest hashish bust in counter-narcotics history.” He characterized the work of some NATO countries’ forces in Afghanistan as ineffectual, suggesting that some coalition nations “should just pack it in and go home.” Prince spoke of Blackwater working in Pakistan, which appears to contradict the official, public Blackwater and US government line that Blackwater is not in Pakistan.

Prince also claimed that a Blackwater operative took down the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at President George W Bush in Baghdad and criticized the Secret Service for being “flat-footed.” He bragged that Blackwater forces “beat the Louisiana National Guard to the scene” during Katrina and claimed that lawsuits, “tens of millions of dollars in lawyer bills” and political attacks prevented him from deploying a humanitarian ship that could have responded to the earthquake in Haiti or the tsunami that hit Indonesia.

Several times during the speech, Prince appeared to demean Afghans his company is training in Afghanistan, saying Blackwater had to teach them “Intro to Toilet Use” and to do jumping jacks. At the same time, he bragged that US generals told him the Afghans Blackwater trains “are the most effective fighting force in Afghanistan.” Prince also revealed that he is writing a book, scheduled to be released this fall.

The speech was delivered January 14 at the University of Michigan in front of an audience of entrepreneurs, ROTC commanders and cadets, businesspeople and military veterans. The speech was titled “Overcoming Adversity: Leadership at the Tip of the Spear” and was sponsored by the Young Presidents’ Association (YPO), a business networking association primarily made up of corporate executives.

- snip -

Blackwater and the Geneva Convention

Prince scornfully dismissed the debate on whether armed individuals working for Blackwater could be classified as “unlawful combatants” who are ineligible for protection under the Geneva Convention. “You know, people ask me that all the time, ‘Aren’t you concerned that you folks aren’t covered under the Geneva Convention in in the likes of Iraq or Afghanistan or Pakistan? And I say, ‘Absolutely not,’ because these people, they crawled out of the sewer and they have a 1200 AD mentality. They’re barbarians. They don’t know where Geneva is, let alone that there was a convention there.”

It is significant that Prince mentioned his company operating in Pakistan given that Blackwater, the US government and the Pakistan government have all denied Blackwater works in Pakistan.

- snip -

Prince to Some NATO Countries in Afghanistan: ‘Go Home’

Prince spoke disparagingly of some unnamed NATO countries with troops in Afghanistan, saying they do not have the will for the fight. “Some of them do and a lot of them don’t,” he said. “It is such a patchwork of different international commitments as to what some can do and what some can’t. A lot of them should just pack it in and go home.” Canada, however, received praise from Prince. “The Canadians have lost per capita more than America has in Afghanistan. They are fighting and they are doing it and so if you see a Canadian thank them for that. The politicians at home take heavies for doing that,” Prince said. He did not mention the fact that his company was hired by the Canadian government to train its forces.

- snip -

Outing Erik Prince

Prince also addressed what he described as his outing as a CIA asset working on sensitive US government programs. He has previously blamed Congressional Democrats and the news media for naming him as working on the US assassination program. The US intelligence apparatus “depends heavily on Americans that are not employed by the government to facilitate greater success and access for the intelligence community,” Prince said. “It’s unprecedented to have people outed by name, especially ones that were running highly classified programs. And as much as the left got animated about Valerie Plame, outing people by name for other very very sensitive programs was unprecedented and definitely threw me under the bus.”

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:27 PM
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1. Thank you Jeremy Scahill
a true hero
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:27 PM
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2. That Much Ignorance and Arrogance Can Prove Fatal
but why wait for natural events?
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:28 PM
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3. more
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:30 PM
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4. k/r
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:34 PM
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5. Here is a question.
If they are paid by tax dollars, shouldn't they be part of the US military.

Why have a military that is private sector? So they are not bound by military rules?


The point is, what is the argument to having mercenaries, if they are paid much better, that money still comes from tax dollars so it could be used to pay their mercenaries as US soldiers.


So why is it private sector? Because they believe the private sector is better, it is ideology.


Also they have an intelligence division, which really brings up questions of how many things they could be doing illegal hired by the dollar, or to defend their ideology of the dollar.


I would guess he is a true believer, and actually himself does not worry about money, except that it can be used to hire people to do what they are told, not based on a societies set of rules. Money is a strict hierarchy, it does not have moral dilemma or other considerations.

That is my biggest objection to mercenary armies.



I would guess some of the more nefarious things done by private sector in the political enviroment with propaganda they could have a hand in also. It would only make sense. If they have intelligence, they naturally would be in PR, I wonder if they work with any other right wing organizations.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:39 PM
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6. Thank you for being a real journalist, Mr. Scahill
eom
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:50 PM
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7. Eric Prince is a blowhard rich snotty kid.
His massive ego and sense of self-importance will be his downfall.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:56 PM
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8. This doofus actually thinks there was a "convention" in Geneva
and he has the balls to accuse pepole in Iraq of being "barbarians". I'd guess a lot of Iraqis understand the meaning of the word convention.

Piece o' shit, he is.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 09:57 AM
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12. and the audience laughs
they play the audio here: http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/4/exclusivesecret_recording_of_erik_prince_reveals


Ha ha ha those dumb Iraqis don't know where Geneva is, that's how dumb they are. Not like us, we know all about that big meeting up in Wisconsin.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 06:56 PM
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9. Prince is the barbarian
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 08:25 PM
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10. Why can this not be copied and pasted in an email to Whitehouse.gov?
Prince should be in jail and any activism we can do against this terrorist needs to be done.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:17 AM
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11. How dare Erik Prince pretend to be outraged. Blackwater execs were responsible for letting the 9/11
Edited on Tue May-04-10 07:40 AM by leveymg
hijackers into the U.S. and letting bin Laden escape from Tora Bora, when they worked at CIA Counter-Terrorism Center (CIA/CTC). Prince was part of the DIA-CIA operation that helped al-Qaeda in Bosnia in the mid-1990s, at the time that Cofer Black was CIA Station Chief in Sudan while bin Laden had his base of operations there. After 9/11, Prince gave highly-paid Blackwater jobs to the CIA/CTC guys most responsible for the 9/11 "intelligence failure." These same Blackwater execs had also implemented the CIA programs that carried out torture, kidnapping, and assassinations within friendly countries. Blackwater was awarded CIA contracts for this work after these programs were privatized. He's among the dirtiest (and richest) of the black operators who have been responsible for the worst "intelligence failures" of the past decade. Yet, he's upset that he's been "outed" by his former employer and Congress.

See, my diaries at DailyKos:

Blackwater "Perimeter Guard" Failed to Search Bomber of CIA
by leveymg
Wed Jan 06, 2010 at 10:08:23 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/6/822414/-Blackwater-Perimeter-Guard-Failed-to-Search-Bomber-of-CIA

The Virginia Pilot newspaper today identifies one of the dead in the suicide bomb attack in Afghanistan as Jeremy Wise, an employee of Xe/Blackwater. Wise was killed with six other Americans identified as CIA officers or contractors. http://hamptonroads.com/...

It appears from reports that this Xe contractor, along with two other guards working for the same private security firm, may have failed to pat down the bomber, resulting in the deaths of themselves and several CIA officers.

MORE below . . .
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"Jordanian Double-Agent Behind CIA Attack" - 9/11 Intel Failure Redux?
by leveymg
Tue Jan 05, 2010 at 09:21:46 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/5/822069/-Jordanian-Double-Agent-Behind-CIA-Attack9-11-Intel-Failure-Redux

Source: Foreign Policy Magazine, from Wash Post report http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Jordanian double agent behind CIA attack

The suicide bomber who attacked an outpost in Khost, Afghanistan last week killing seven CIA agents and a Jordanian spy was a Jordanian double agent, recruited by both countries' intelligence services to provide information about al Qaeda's top leadership, according to Western government officials.

The Washington Post reports that Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi was a 36-year-old physician with a history of supporting Jihadist causes and was well known on extremists online message boards. Balawi was arrested by Jordanian authorities in 2007 and recruited as a double agent. Balawi gained the trust of Jordanian authorities and the CIA with a stream of valuable intelligence leaks, which may explain why he was allowed on the base without more thorough screening. SNIP

For those familiar with the details, this is precisely how 9/11 happened. Several of the suicide hijackers were CIA/Saudi General Intelligence Directorate (GID) double-agents. MORE, below . . .

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Erik Prince: American Bin Laden - CIA Asset, Money & Gunmen
by leveymg
Fri Dec 04, 2009 at 08:21:35 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/4/810764/-Erik-Prince:-American-Bin-LadenCIA-Asset,-MoneyGunmen

Erik Prince is the American Osama Bin Laden: a CIA asset with a lot of money and gunmen working for him.

The parallels extend further than recent reports that Prince was a paid CIA agent. See, http://www.theatlanticwire.com/...

The top people at Blackwater were CIA managers who ran a number of double-agents within al-Qaeda as Agency assets until 9/11. Before he headed a Blackwater subsidiary, Cofer Black was CIA Chief of Station in Khartoum in the mid-1990s at the time that bin Laden, Ali Mohamed, KSM and many other major terrorist figures were running CIA-assisted paramilitary operations against the Serbs and Russians from bases in Sudan. Al-Qaeda continued to operate against the Russians until 9/11, and at least thirteen of the 19 hijackers were originally recruited and trained to fight in Bosnia and Chechnya.(1) Erik Prince also got his start as a Special Forces Operator in Bosnia.

But, that's just the beginning of the strange network that binds together a group of CIA alumni, Blackwater, and al-Qaeda. MORE, below . . .
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AP: CIA Torture Damaged Brains, Recall of 9/11 Suspects Hotlist
by leveymg
Tue Sep 22, 2009 at 08:19:45 AM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/22/785150/-AP:-CIA-Torture-Damaged-Brains,-Recall-of-9-11-Suspects

A new scientific study supports what I've been reporting since 2007. The effect of waterboarding and other torture techniques used on "high value" detainees during the Bush Administration led to the brain damage of witnesses and destruction of evidence. Those selected for the most damaging treatment had personal knowledge of CIA involvement with al-Qaeda prior to the 9/11 attacks.

Report: CIA interrogations informed by bad science

By PAMELA HESS
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The CIA's harsh interrogations are likely to have damaged the brains of terrorist suspects, diminishing their ability to recall and provide the detailed information the spy agency sought, according to a new scientific paper.

The paper scrutinizes the techniques used by the CIA under the Bush administration through the lens of neurobiology and determines the methods to be counterproductive, no matter how much the suspects might have eventually talked.

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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:04 PM
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13. This should be an OP - now is a great time to follow up on this.
Do you have suggestions on political action beyond emailing the whitehouse.

I'll do what I can, but ... advice would be good.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 04:14 PM
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18. They'll just let him dangle out in public view.
One assumes the Agency and the White House consider that to be punishment enough for a former covert operator. But, then, there are several civil suits that'll make Prince's life Hell for years to come. It bothers me more that Cofer Black and Richard Blee -- they were in charge of CIA/CTC when the Flt. 77 Pentagon hijackers came in, and ordered the FBI liaison officer to withhold a warning cable -- appear to have gotten a pass, but they were "just following orders".

My best advise is to read up on the details of this macabre episode. The links to that information are in my response in the thread above.

Thanks for your interest.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:24 PM
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14. 9-11
went exactly as planned...
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 01:36 PM
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15. Is a tax revolt out of the question?
Because there are a number of places my money needs to stop going to and this assholes pocket is one of those places. Thank god the Democrats are in power, I'm sure they'll do something about this asshole. :rofl:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 02:18 PM
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16. Thanks or your continuing good work
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 03:21 PM
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17. k&r
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 04:16 PM
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19. ttt
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 04:21 PM
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20. IF the Conventions don't apply to
barbarians then they don't apply to Prince!

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Drops_not_Dope Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 04:23 PM
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21. Barbarians?

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 04:50 PM
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22. K&R
I'll be reading this in its entirety later...
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 05:45 PM
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23. And here is a company that has made a BILLION $$$ without any rules or regs! Disgusting!
"Overall, the company has received over $1 billion USD in U.S. government contracts."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_Worldwide

..........

I had written many letters to our Senators from Florida in the early 2000's and none of them gave a crap about this! They will go down as one of the most corrupt and evil entities of the early 2000's! No wonder Prince wants to keep it "secret" - but he is only fooling himself!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 07:25 PM
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24. Oh, yeah, they beat the Louisiana National Guard to the scene.
The first customer was a communications company that hired Blackwater to fetch 100 of its employees who were stuck in flooded homes. Because a state of emergency had been declared, Blackwater could bypass Louisiana licensing requirements. Boats, waders and other gear were loaded on a company cargo plane. A convoy of SUVs rolled out of Moyock.

Within 18 hours, Jackson said, Blackwater had 135 men on the ground. They were outfitted for battle, complete with helmets, flak vests, pistols, batons and M-4 carbines, capable of firing 900 rounds per minute. “Yes, we looked a little heavy-handed coming in,” Jackson said, “but it was because of the intel that we received.” Exaggerated or not, Jackson said, reports coming out of New Orleans indicated the place was in anarchy, with armed looters roaming the city and outlaws preying on the populace. “We did a risk assessment and decided we’re going to send guys in there for real,” he said.


http://www.jcs-group.com/military/private/warriors5.html



They could get 135 men in with plenty of equipment and ammo, but nobody could get any food or water to the people trapped in the Superdome. :grr:
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