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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:10 PM
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Breaking: US Citizen of Pakistan Descent Arrested in connection to NYC attempted bombing
Edited on Mon May-03-10 11:11 PM by HipChick
looking for a link MSNBC reporting
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:10 PM
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1. And now they can call it terrorism again.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:11 PM
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2. identified as Shahzad Faisal
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:43 PM
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10. rubbish
they were already calling it terrorism

despite the all "it's only called terrorism if the perp is brown" posts

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:07 AM
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19. the problem is - we LET them control the definitions
anyone who uses violence and terror to make a political statement is a terrorist.

Anyone who planted a bomb in a car in Times Square is a terrorist.

Terrorists come in all shapes, colors and forms. They vary as much as the politics of the world varies.

Stop letting them control the conversation.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:13 PM
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3. Should he be water-boarded...?
....or beheaded on al Jazeera? What justice does this man deserve? Obviously, he does not consider himself an American, but a Pakistani. His loyalties are not with our country.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:14 PM
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4. US Naturalizations can be revoked..
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:45 PM
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11. He is a citizen
It said of Pakistani decent, not an Pakistani immigrant.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:48 PM
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13. If you get naturalization,its usually because you immigrated from somewhere first..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:50 PM
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15. Only if he was naturalized
if he was born here... he is a Natural Born Citizen
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:52 PM
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16. Doesn't really matter at this point..very much like this case..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:02 AM
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17. Yes it does
when exactly did Pakistan become a US State?

Now he is naturalized... according to CNN... so that will be something they will do. If he is found guilty and given less than life... he will become a Stateless Person

Oh and I would not advocate ANY KIND OF TORTURE, PERIOD
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:04 AM
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18. Why does Pakistan need to be a US state?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:08 AM
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20. they are not, but it seems you want the interrogators to use the same
techniques

the Pakistani Intelligence Service is infamous for ahem obtaining confessions.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:12 AM
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21. I don't understand what you are trying to say...I stated
that a US naturalization does not bestow US citizenship indefinitely if serious judicial matters come into play ..that's all...how you get to you jump point is beyond me..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 12:19 AM
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22. What I am saying is that they will not torture this guy
as to taking away his citizenship, only if he is released. Why I said, become a stateless person but ONLY after release, and that assumes HE IS actually like guilty. Lets wait for the courts.
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:43 AM
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23. I hadn't seen that part about him being naturalized
Edited on Tue May-04-10 11:57 AM by Tailormyst
Just being of Pakistani "decent"
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:22 PM
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7. Shouldn't our laws take precedence?
I may have missed the part that said, if you don't believe in our laws then we'll just take it on the fly.

:shrug:
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:40 PM
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9. So what was McVeigh? Was he also not a U.S. citizen and an "American"?
Yes, he was.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:17 PM
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5. Obama's fault...
:sarcasm:
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:17 PM
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6. had him under surveillance..hmm
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:39 PM
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8. CNN reporting he was arrested at JFK about to board a plane. nt
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:47 PM
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12. and only because of beefed up TSA security at that airport..
Edited on Mon May-03-10 11:47 PM by HipChick
I'd bet..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:49 PM
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14. CNN is going on this right now
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-10 11:45 AM
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24. They're in orgy-mode as is Fux News I'm sure
Glad this guy was fail. Lucky.
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