I'm stumped.

[phantom power]

It always seems to come down to this, doesn't it?

“There was a big debate under the Bush administration whether or not to require additional oil drilling safeguards but decided not to require any additional mandatory safeguards, believing the industry would be motivated to do it themselves,” Carl Pope, Chairman of the Sierra Club told ABC News.

What is it going to take to make people rethink this faith-based assumption? I'm stumped. From Wall Street to California to the Gulf of Mexico and everywhere else, it's been proven over and over again, that this simply doesn't work. And the country blames the government because it failed to do its job and then makes it ever weaker in the process, thus perpetuating this vicious cycle. Why, heck, you'd almost think the whole thing was rigged

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/refrain.html

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Self-regulation has ALWAYS worked out so well in the past.

[WhiteTara]

2. Wall Street was a prime example

of self regulation. They laughed all the way to the Caymen Islands.

[Kablooie]

14. Worked perfectly back in the 1880's.

[jdlh8894]

3. Doesn't work?

There are over 30,000 wells in the gulf.Plus 4,000 rigs drilling at present.Seems to me, oh well,never mind. eom

[EOTE]

4. Yep, and it only takes one mistake for a ginormous fucktastrophe.

As long as we have 'accidents' like this, it's pretty clear that our current method of regulation isn't working.

[jdlh8894]

5. Kind of like a Volcano?

Want to regulate them ,too?? GFL

[Nuclear Unicorn]

6. That makes no sense. Apples v Oranges

I'm assuming your point--if there be one--is: mother nature cranks out so much stuff why bother regulating ourselves.

If that is indeed what you're implying then maybe nature cranks out so much stuff the margins for what humans can produce without upsetting our eco system in parts--or in whole--is razor thin.

Arsenic is naturally occurring. How many drops will you accept in your drinking water before you cry uncle?

[EOTE]

7. You can't be serious.

So you're suggesting that because there are natural disasters that we can't prevent, that we shouldn't go about preventing man-made disasters? That's got to be one of the stupidest suggestions I've ever heard. And I've heard some insanely stupid suggestions. Do you think before you write something like that?

[jdlh8894]

9. This was (more or less) a natural disaster

Mother Earth BURPED!! Sure,we stuck a finger down her throat,and she reacted.Kind of natural.Don't you think?

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[EOTE]

11. Care to tell me any other natural disasters that cause this much damage?

And no, this is not even close to a natural disaster. It is 100% man made. Surely you're capable of seeing that, right? Any more bright ideas?

[jdlh8894]

13. How much damage has it caused?

Besides 11 deaths that we know of.

[EOTE]

15. Wow, I don't even know where to start.

If you honestly don't know of the still unfolding environmental impact that this oil spill is causing, there's really not much point in trying to explain it to you. This is one of the largest environmental disasters EVER and apparently you think it's going to take care of itself. Great thinking there.

[Javaman]

17. So you only limit your "death count" to humans huh?

wow, just wow.

It really must be something else living in your brand of reality.

[EOTE]

20. Still don't have a response?

How about this one. Let's say some mad scientist starts drilling into the earth's core with the intention of dropping in a deuterium bomb that will destroy all of earth. Should we not do anything about that because it's just a natural disaster that hasn't happened yet? After all, it would just be like earth ripping a really big fart, right? It's all natural, right genius?

[Javaman]

16. Yes, brought on by us drilling into the earth, thus causing the "burp".

you have no idea of geology do you?

>shakes head in wonder<

[kristopher]

8. Yet knowing this...

you STILL advocate for dramatic expansion of nuclear power.

The nuclear industry is an "industry" just as much as the petroleum industry.

[defendandprotect]

12. Re-think capitalism . . . and its exploitation of nature -- natural resources . . .

animal-life --

and even other human beings according to various myths of inferiority!

[TwilightGardener]

18. Well, maybe it'll work now, if BP gets slammed hard enough.

Too bad the fishing industry, the tourist industry, and the ocean life all have to die for these assholes to take their responsibilities seriously.

[mod mom]

19. rigged?

Halliburton to Buy Boots & Coots, Adding Oil-Well Firefighting Services
by on APRIL 10, 2010
By Vivek Shankar April 10 (Bloomberg) — Halliburton Co. agreed to buy Boots & Coots Inc. for about $240.4 million in stock and cash, adding equipment and services to fight oil-well fires. Boots & Coots holders will receive $1.73 in cash and $1.27 in Halliburton stock per share, Halliburton said in a statement yesterday. The combined price, $3, is 28 percent more than Boots & Coots’ closing price yesterday. Both companies are based in Houston. The addition of Boots & Coots will allow Halliburton to offer a more complete suite of services to customers, said Marc Edwards , a senior vice president. Halliburton is the world’s second-largest oil-field services company after Schlumberger Ltd. Edward “Coots” Matthews , who died on March 31 at 86, founded the company in 1978 along with Asger “Boots” Hansen . For 20 years prior to that, they had worked with Red Adair, whose skill at battling oil-well fires was portrayed in the 1968 movie “Hellfighters,” starring John Wayne as Adair. Both Matthews and Hansen were involved in fighting well- known oil-well blowouts, including the “Devil’s Cigarette Lighter” in Gassil Touil, Algeria, in 1961 and another at Lake Maracaibo in 1991. They also extinguished the fires from 700 oil wells in Kuwait, blazes set by retreating Iraqi troops near the end of the first Gulf War in 1991, according to the company. For 2009, Boots & Coots reported net income of $6 million, or 8 cents a share, on revenue of $195.1 million. Halliburton said the boards of both companies had approved the transaction and it will close this summer. Boots & Coots had 80.13 million shares outstanding as of March 2, according to Bloomberg data. The stock fell 3 cents to $2.35 yesterday. It’s up 42 percent for the year. Halliburton fell 9 cents to $31.57 in New York Stock Exchange composite trading yesterday. The shares have climbed 4.9 percent this year. To contact the reporter on this story: Vivek Shankar in San Francisco at [e-mail]


http://industry-news.org/2010/04/10/halliburton-to-buy-boots-coots-adding-oil-well-firefighting-services/


Timeline of Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill
April 20: The MODU Deepwater Horizon deep-water oil drilling rig explodes and catches fire in the Gulf of Mexico at about 10 p.m. 126 people were on board, 11 go missing and at least 15 are injured. read
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/a_timeline_of_the_gulf_of_mexi.html


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