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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:25 PM
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Joe Lieberman names citizenship-stripping bill "the TEA Act"
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/06/lieberman_tea_act/index.html

Faced with the successful arrest and interrogation of an American citizen who failed to commit a terrorist attack, Joe Lieberman introduced a bill aimed at stripping Americans of their citizenship if they're terrorists. (But only if they are connected to foreign terrorist organizations. Feel free to join the KKK and stay an American.)

Lieberman originally said American citizens should be "deprived automatically of their citizenship ... when they are apprehended and charged with a terrorist act," which, even for Lieberman, is pretty insane. He's moderated that a bit, though it's unclear how his new citizenship-stripping bill would actually work. You're a non-citizen if the State Department is really sure you're aiding a foreign terrorist organization? If you're actually convicted of aiding foreign terrorists? (The aim of the bill seems to be to send these sudden non-citizens to tribunals instead of civilian courts, though it looks like accused terrorists would be able to fight the attempt to revoke their citizenship.)

But Joe, having quickly lost support from Chuck Schumer, has literally named this affront to the Constitution the "Terrorist Expatriation Act" -- or, "the TEA Act." Hey, I wonder which reactionary white populists he's looking to appeal to with a name like that?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:29 PM
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1. There is NOTHING in the Constitution that allows someone to be deprived of their
Citizenship

Everytime nonesense like this comes out I become outraged that Gore picked this person for his VP

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:32 PM
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3. Lieberman is the reason I voted for Nader. Doesn't seem so crazy now, does it?
Lieberman could have become president.
It was a terrible decision by Gore...bordering on slimy.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:36 PM
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5. Agreed it was a terrible decision for Gore to choose him, however in my view
Gore as president, even with LIEberman, would have still been better than what bush did to the country

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:50 PM
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10. Agreed 100%, but if Gore had died, Lieberman WOULD have been President.
And that is fucking scary in light of his current misbehavior.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:20 AM
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30. Still better than GWB, no?
I don't get it.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:02 PM
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41. since gore is still breathing it was a continguency that wasn't going to happen
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:37 PM
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7. File that away with McCain picking Palin. McCain could have also become president with Palin waiting
in the wings just a heart attack away from controlling this nation and its military might.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:50 PM
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27. And let's not forget you were GHWB's heartbeat away from President Quayle for 4 years.
A Fantastic Four comic even played that as a doomsday scenario.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:51 PM
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11. Lieberman's bullshit plays good on Faux and the
teabaggers eat it up. Lieberman is the Rethug hero.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:52 PM
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19. Have you ever had or read a passport?
Edited on Thu May-06-10 08:53 PM by harkadog
It lists five conditions the U.S. government may use to strip you of your citizenship. This law would just be one more condition to the list. So if the passport conditions are constitutional then adding other conditions would be also.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:45 AM
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31. "under certain circumstances, you may"
Pretty wish-washy bit of nonsense eh? Still need an actual court to strip that citizenship away, not just random accusations from state department officials. That crap written in passports is just that, crap.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:22 AM
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39. You think some State official just made up random language?
It comes from the U.S. Code. The ways to lose citizenship are detailed in 8 USC 1481. This was written by Congress not the State Department. This law would just add another section to the Code.
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:30 PM
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2. Lets add if you work against
America's interest like Lieberman.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:47 AM
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33. How about his good buddy McCain
Edited on Fri May-07-10 08:57 AM by MattBaggins
who sat on the board of a "charity" that was a front to funnel money to terrorist groups in South America.

We need to start an Official DU list of people to De-Americanize
Pat Robertson--->Charles Taylor
McCain--->USCWF
Erik Prince and all of Blackwater--->Mercs
The Palins--->AIP
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:34 PM
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4. Lets not forget "Heck of a truck Brownie's" pathetic pandering as well!
What a pair of unpatriotic asshats.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:37 PM
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6. Just how does Joey Lieberman get a chairmanship?
Edited on Thu May-06-10 07:38 PM by howaboutme
When there are true American patriots and Democrats such as Bernie Sanders who deserve it? What gives Joey, a non-Democrat and an independent and UN-constitutionalist, the clout or support to hold a major chairmanship of Homeland Security, when there are true patriotic Democrats that are forced to languish on the sidelines?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:40 PM
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8. Wanker
Actually, make that "partisan hack, shameless pandering wanker".
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 07:46 PM
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9. Guilty until proven innocent
The lack of logic is astounding. The idea of stripping a person of their citizenship so they can't be tried in court of law makes guilt or innocence irrelevant. Maybe just a phone call from a disgruntled neighbor...
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:12 PM
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12. I wonder if all "terrorist" organizations will be included, or just the
ones that the new "Sheriff Joe" doesn't like.

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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:39 PM
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16. How about American Citizen treasonous SPYS who sell our secrets to other nations
and jeopardize american lives and place our nation's security infrastructure at risk?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:44 PM
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25. I was thinking about the large group of Irish-Americans who supported
the IRA in the '70's. Or the number of Americans who joined the Canadian Force prior to 1941. Or those who supported Allende in Chili.

If you don't trust the government to deliver health care, how could you trust them with your citizenship?
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:20 PM
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13. How different than Executive Order 9066?
Where an entire ethnic group was stripped of its rights with a single stroke of a pen.

Yeah. Been there. Done that. It sucked then. Sucks now.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:33 PM
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14. Can we strip Palin of the citizenship...Todd pals around with AIP?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:37 PM
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15. What a terrible man. n.t
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:41 PM
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17. Why is Joe still caucusing with the Dems?
?????
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:44 PM
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18. Touch decision as to whether LIEberman or McCain is the bigger asshole.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:08 PM
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20. Joe Lieberman: A Pubic Embarrassment.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:45 PM
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26. that he is
:puke:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:12 PM
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21. Democrats better kill this little monster in the fucking cradle.
It'll have no problem getting a vote, since Republicans wouldn't block a bill that would give them a way to label more Democrats and brown people terrorists.
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FreeJG Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:13 PM
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22. Now they're going to kill off the tea baggers....
for them, nice while it lasted.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:13 PM
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23. It should be renamed the "Lieberman is a Ho" act
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:16 PM
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24. I'm more afraid of guys like LIEberman than I am a fucking "Terra-ist"
A terra-ist ain't that ignorant and selfish.
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:04 AM
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28. And to think this guy was CT's attorney general...
I live in CT, and I was hoping Lieberman wouldn't run again. But this looks like he will. x(
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:11 AM
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29. I guess that makes Lieberman a Teabagger then
People have to start laughing at him. He's taken way too seriously and he loves it. I say point a finger at him and start laughing.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:23 AM
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35. That's why he's "Joey" to me
Lieberman's persona represents why the USA is in decline. He's interested in himself and he's not the only one either.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:47 AM
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32. At this point, I'm almost surprised Lieberman didn't call for public
be-headings.

He's been off the sentient indexes for some time now.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:50 AM
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34. This bill would never withstand the legal challenges-
This is a clear violation of the UDHR, to which the US is a signatory.

These people are totally insane.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:24 AM
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36. i'm so sick of joe the fucking politician....
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:35 AM
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37. I've said it before. I'll say it again.
Lieberman will declare Republican within six months.

Time to give the Independent facade, Failgunner Joe.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:02 AM
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38. Joe's not too smart, is he?
He's hitching his political future to a permanent (although vocal) minority.

Also, wasn't he like, a lawyer? Didn't he learn about citizenship rights in law school?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:09 AM
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40. K & R
:thumbsup:
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