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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:57 PM
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Obama Top Recipient of BP Oil Campaign $$$$$
Barack Obama Top Cash Recipient of BP Oil in 2008


"Barack Obama received more campaign money from multinational BP Oil, the company whose rig is now leaking, than any other person in 2008 according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Note that 18 days before the leak began, in what is likely to be the largest such disaster of all time, Obama changed the nation’s off shore drilling policy. Obama reversed 27 years of policy and essentially took up Sarah Palin’s cry of "Drill, Baby, Drill". The oil well in question, moreover, was drilled (March to September 2009) after Obama took office so it was under the supervision of his administration.

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During the 2008 election cycle, individuals and political action committees associated with BP — a Center for Responsive Politics’ "heavy hitter" — contributed half a million dollars to federal candidates. About 40 percent of these donations went to Democrats. The top recipient of BP-related donations during the 2008 cycle was President Barack Obama himself, who collected $71,000.
BP regularly lobbies on Capitol Hill, as well. In 2009, the company spent a massive $16 million to influence legislation. During the first quarter of 2010, it spent $3.53 million on federal lobbying efforts, ranking it second (behind ConocoPhillips) among all oil and gas industry interests.
Its registered lobbyists include a number of former federal government and high-ranking political campaign officials, including longtime political operative Tony Podesta, former congressional chief of staff Bob Brooks, former congressional legislative director David Pore and vice presidential aide Michael S. Berman, the Center’s research shows.

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The Podesta family has important connections with Obama. Recall that John Podesta headed Obama’s transition team. For more on Podesta, see this Washington Post article. John Podesta also was a key adviser to Tom Daschle, whom Obama wanted in his cabinet before Daschle’s failure to pay taxes issue scuttled his appointment. Tony Podesta and his wife, according to a recent article in Huffington Post, have raked in millions in lobbying against change in Washington, D.C.:

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Bloomberg’s Al Hunt, who writes that Tony and Heather Podesta "are raking in millions from the insurance and drug industries, tobacco companies and corporate interests fighting changes to labor laws or the overhaul of the student-loan program."
Hunt calls the Podestas "conscientious objectors to the culture of change in Washington" and says they personify the "ingrained money and political culture."
Heather and Tony Podesta’s firms represent clients opposed to just about every part of the Obama change agenda.
But Podesta told Al Hunt that "We have only some small differences with the administration and the Democratic leadership."
Following the money trail, the Podesta lobbying group, with its insider ties to Obama and his administration received $320,000 from BP in both 2008 and again in 2009. Thus far in 2010, BP has given the Podesta Group $80,000, but yeh, it’s only early in May. Remember that the Podesta Group is a virtual pipeline to the Democratic Party and Obama. Would a hard-fisted investigation into BP and it’s cash donations lead directly to Obama’s front door? You bet as the foregoing indicates.

.....Froomkin presents information to show that Obama had been informed by NOAA (the agency that oversees oil safety) that pursuing a policy of off shore drilling was very risky:
National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration officials last fall warned the Department of Interior, which regulates offshore oil drilling, that it was dramatically underestimating the frequency of offshore oil spills and was dangerously understating the risk and impacts a major spill would have on coastal residents.
…NOAA also wrote that the administration’s "analysis of the risk and impacts of accidental spills and chronic impacts are understated and generally not supported or referenced, using vague terms and phrases such as ‘no substantive degradation is expected’ and ’some marine mammals could be harmed.’"

Froomkin, moreover, quotes a whistleblower who notes that Obama’s policies (and personnel) are about the same as W’s:
Jeff Ruch, the head of the public-employee whistleblowing group, said that as in many other regulatory agencies, Obama political appointees in the Interior Department’s notoriously troubled Minerals Management Service (MMS) have not taken enough steps to reverse the anti-environmental and anti-science policies of the Bush years.
"For the most part, the Obama team is still the Bush team," Ruch told HuffPost, noting that beyond a thin layer of political appointees, offices like MMS are run by managers who were "promoted during the Bush years — In many instances, promoted for basically violating the law. And from what we can tell, their conduct hasn’t changed."

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/45293
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BP Worked With FreedomWorks And The Chamber To Build ‘Grassroots’ Support For More Drilling
This post originally appeared on Think Progress.




BP has long touted itself as a “green” company interested not only in oil and other fossil fuels, but in renewable energy like wind and solar. But as Rebecca Lefton reported on ThinkProgress last week, BP barely invests anything in clean energy — most of its green campaign is actually just a massive advertising gimmick to conceal the truth about the company.

While BP has spent hundreds of millions building its brand, it has offshored the dirty work of promoting expanded drilling to right-wing front groups and trade associations. In a 2007 PowerPoint presentation obtained by ThinkProgress, BP appears to have been interested in fighting to open up protected waters to new offshore drilling. The presentation, organized by the BP-funded front group “Consumer Energy Alliance,” was delivered at the American Gas Association’s marketing meeting in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida. The presentation calls for a five-year plan to build grassroots support to open wide swaths of both the East and West coasts to new drilling on the Outer Continental Shelf:

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Trade associations openly represent the needs of industry, so many industry groups like API have delicately tried to defend offshore drilling, but without explicitly defending the actions of BP. However, FreedomWorks portrays itself as simply a citizen-based group. In reality, FreedomWorks has a long history of orchestrating public support for its corporate and lobbyist backers. Earlier this week, FreedomWorks lashed out at criticism of BP, claiming the administration has its “boot on neck of BP” by proposing that BP should have more liability for its spill.

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/05/06/bp-worked-with-freedomworks-and-the-chamber-to-build-%e2%80%98grassroots%e2%80%99-support-for-more-drilling/

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BP: Billionaire Polluter

By Amy Goodman

Less than a week after British Petroleum’s Deepwater Horizon drilling platform exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, killing 11 workers and unleashing what could be the worst industrial environmental disaster in U.S. history, the company announced more than $6 billion in profits for the first quarter of 2010, more than doubling profits from the same period the year before. Oil industry analyst Antonia Juhasz notes: “BP is one of the most powerful corporations operating in the United States. Its 2009 revenues of $327 billion are enough to rank BP as the third-largest corporation in the country. It spends aggressively to influence U.S. policy and regulatory oversight.” The power and wealth that BP and other oil giants wield are almost without parallel in the world, and pose a threat to the lives of workers, to the environment and to our prospects for democracy.

Sixty years ago, BP was called the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. (AIOC). A popular, progressive, elected Iranian government had asked the AIOC, a largely British-owned monopoly, to share more of its profits from Iranian oil with the people of Iran. The AIOC refused, so Iran nationalized its oil industry. That didn’t sit well with the U.S., so the CIA organized a coup d’é tat against Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. After he was deposed, the AIOC, renamed British Petroleum, got a large part of its monopoly back, and the Iranians got the brutal Shah of Iran imposed upon them, planting the seeds of the 1979 Iranian revolution, the subsequent hostage crisis and the political turmoil that besets Iran to this day.

In 2000, British Petroleum rebranded itself as BP, adopting a flowery green-and-yellow logo, and began besieging the U.S. public with an advertising campaign claiming it was moving “beyond petroleum.” BP’s aggressive growth, outrageous profit and track record of petroleum-related disasters paint a much different picture, however. In 2005, BP’s Texas City refinery exploded, killing 15 people and injuring 170. In 2006, a BP pipeline in Alaska leaked 200,000 gallons of crude oil, causing what the Environmental Protection Agency calls “the largest spill that ever occurred on the North Slope.” BP was fined $60 million for the two disasters. Then, in 2009, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) fined BP an additional $87 million for the refinery blast. Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis said: “BP has allowed hundreds of potential hazards to continue unabated. ... Workplace safety is more than a slogan. It’s the law.” BP responded by formally contesting all of OSHA’s charges.

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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/bp_billionaire_polluter_20100504/

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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 08:59 PM
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1. Yeah! So what?
BFD
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:01 PM
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4. maybe it explains why BP got exempted from EIS, and why Obama switched to a pro-drilling position
U.S. Interior Department Exempted BP from Environmenal Study

Government oversight was ‘little more than rubber-stamping,’ expert says

By Juliet Eilperin

Wed., May 5, 2010

The Interior Department exempted BP's calamitous Gulf of Mexico drilling operation from a detailed environmental impact analysis last year, according to government documents, after three reviews of the area concluded that a massive oil spill was unlikely.
The decision by the department's Minerals Management Service (MMS) to give BP's lease at Deepwater Horizon a "categorical exclusion" from the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) on April 6, 2009 — and BP's lobbying efforts just 11 days before the explosion to expand those exemptions — show that neither federal regulators nor the company anticipated an accident of the scale of the one unfolding in the gulf.

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While the MMS assessed the environmental impact of drilling in the central and western Gulf of Mexico on three occasions in 2007 — including a specific evaluation of BP's Lease 206 at Deepwater Horizon — in each case it played down the prospect of a major blowout.

In one assessment, the agency estimated that "a large oil spill" from a platform would not exceed a total of 1,500 barrels and that a "deepwater spill," occurring "offshore of the inner Continental shelf," would not reach the coast.
In another assessment, it defined the most likely large spill as totaling 4,600 barrels and forecast that it would largely dissipate within 10 days and would be unlikely to make landfall.

"They never did an analysis that took into account what turns out to be the very real possibility of a serious spill," said Holly Doremus, a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley who has reviewed the documents.

Hundreds of waivers
The MMS mandates that companies drilling in some areas identify under NEPA what could reduce a project's environmental impact.
But Interior Department spokesman Matt Lee-Ashley said the service grants between 250 and 400 waivers a year for Gulf of Mexico projects.
He added that Interior has now established the "first ever" board to examine safety procedures for offshore drilling. It will report back within 30 days on BP's oil spill and will conduct "a broader review of safety issues," Lee-Ashley said.

BP's exploration plan for Lease 206, which calls the prospect of an oil spill "unlikely," stated that "no mitigation measures other than those required by regulation and BP policy will be employed to avoid, diminish or eliminate potential impacts on environmental resources."
While the plan included a 13-page environmental impact analysis, it minimized the prospect of any serious damage associated with a spill, saying there would be only "sub-lethal" effects on fish and marine mammals, and "birds could become oiled. However it is unlikely that an accidental oil spill would occur from the proposed activities."
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:34 AM
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76. Very disappointing...my firs thought on hearing this was it was another Bush policy...
...but no, only a year ago. pretty disgusting.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:00 PM
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2. Okay.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:01 PM
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3. 71 thooooooooooooooouuuuuuusand dollars
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:08 PM
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11. lolol
I know, posting after the Politico post was shot down was not the brightest idea.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:02 PM
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5. And the point is?
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:05 PM
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7. BP's project would have been prohibited had an EIS been conducted
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:08 PM
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9. Okay, I just went back and read your response more thoroughly explaining this.
They need to answer 'why'. They really do.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:13 PM
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16. that's great !
when i heard this yesterday on KO, where Defenders of Wildlife's Kieran Suckling discussed how BP was weirdly exempted from the EIS, it was shocking.....but as people have dug more deeply, it looks as if Salazar is very cozy with Big Oil; and he was O's choice for Int Secy.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:23 PM
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25. I've been so disappointment in so many of his choices, but thought he probably
knew what he was doing and getting into, but with Geithner, Rahm and others, and now you mention Salazar, I think he should have listened to us.

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:24 PM
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26. agree
and just as the Fed needs to be audited, here there needs to be an inquiry into the exemption
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:27 PM
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28. Think we'll see either? (Actually, the Fed needs to GO, IMO). nt
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:29 PM
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30. only if enough people hear about it, and demand answers
whether that happens....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:31 PM
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32. Then I'm going to send your links to Rachel, Keith, and Ed -- they do a good job
of getting the word out there.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:33 PM
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33. great, thanks!
KO had Kieran Suckling of Defenders of Wildlife on last night; he called for Salazar's resignation; talked about this exemption, and about how close Salazar is to Big Oil; it looks as if Salazar has received $$$ from BP for many cycles.....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:01 PM
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51. I missed that -- hope my e-mail (and your links) nudge him to do it again. This
is something I can see Rachel and Ed getting into, too. And Thom Hartmann.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:25 PM
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53. agree
and thanks!
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:33 PM
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36. I am going to start a Salazar to be fired posting. Here I go.....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:05 PM
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6. I always find fault with these things (unless they're damning to Republicans,
of course :7) because when I've contributed to a candidate while working for a bio-tech, my contribution 'counted' as coming from the company. I know I was one of the only ones supporting certain candidates, yet my contributions were added to the "industry" pot.

And since Obama won by a HEALTHY margin, I'm guessing many employees supported him over the years.

Why did you feel compelled to post this?

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:10 PM
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12. there appears to be a double standard and you articulated it well
if these facts pertained to a republican, you and many would be protesting loudly; but as you said in your post, because it's "our" guy now, it's ok.....

it's too bad that so many folks still think of US politics as this struggle between two warring groups of citizens. As Chomsky has pointed out, there's very little difference between the two political parties; they both represent the ruling elite.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:42 PM
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42. Everyone's views are colored by their prejudices. For example, someone who called Obama a "freeper"
might be more inclined to post nasty OPs from questionable sources.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:43 PM
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43. +1
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 06:33 AM
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70. $77,000 out of $260,000,000...
I'm sure BP owns him.

:eyes:


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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:55 PM
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91. More observations
""it's too bad that so many folks still think of US politics as this struggle between two warring groups of citizens. As Chomsky has pointed out, there's very little difference between the two political parties; they both represent the ruling elite.""

and the ruling elite fabricate a struggle between the right and left of the populace fueled by token issues like abortion, gun rights, etc. It's called divide and conquer.

Thom Hartman put it well this week. (I'm paraphrasing) This is not really a democracy anymore, it's a plutocracy, there is only one political party with two heads. The corporations are in control, the politicians are just actors on a stage.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:21 AM
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94. +1000
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:16 AM
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68. Open government
Possible conflict of interest. If Bush were in office, we for damn sure would be looking at this. Some of us really believe that Obama needs to be held to the same standard.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:21 AM
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73. exactly; different set of standards suddenly with
"our" guy; people keep buying into this 'us' versus 'them' battle; but both parties represent the ruling elite
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:06 PM
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8. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:01 PM
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52. yes because Democrats never question other Democrats right
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:08 PM
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10. Politico shows how not to report on campaign contributions
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:11 PM
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13. I'd love to blame BP too, but I think it was more Halliburton at work.
Sounds like they fucked everything up and we are blaming the victim.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:32 AM
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62. BULL FU*KING SH*T
BP is a fu*kstain on the face of the planet

they need to be broken up

they're not the victim

THEY ARE THE PERPETRATOR
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:00 PM
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87. Well you blame who you want to in your tirade and I will pick who
I believe is at fault or can you not handle that? :eyes:
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:49 PM
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90. This Is Not About Belief
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:30 PM
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99. More Facts
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:25 PM
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101. +1000
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:11 PM
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14. on Ed Shultz's radio program today
He said that he regretted reporting this, because it is not correct.

Obama did receive donations from INDIVIDUALS affiliated with BP, but not the company itself..

This is like saying just because DU members donated to his campaign, DU "itself" donated.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:16 PM
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17. i think that's splitting hairs
after all, to some extent, an organization's members constitute that organization; they're imbued with its culture, viewpoints, etc....

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:18 PM
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18. I strongly disagree
BP does not have control over who their employees donate money to, no more than DU has said control.

If the "company" donates to him, then your premise is true.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:18 PM
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19. The trouble lies in the bundling of contributions
Edited on Thu May-06-10 09:22 PM by depakid
and unfortunately it does create the appearance of impropriety for any politician when situations like this arise.

From here on out of course, thanks to the Supreme Court- the situation's going to be a whole lot worse.
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FreeJG Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:12 PM
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15. They are all in bed together, literally.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:18 PM
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20. I prefer the mediamatters take on this.
Politico and its very excitable BP-Obama reporting

May 06, 2010 9:12 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Trolling for a Drudge link, here's how Politico played up findings about oil giant BP and its campaign contributions over the years:

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash
Lede (emphasis added):

While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.

Kind of interesting, right? Politico has no idea if Obama will have to answer for the campaign contributions. (i.e. Did he do anything wrong?) And Politico can't find anybody in the entire article demanding that Obama answer for the contributions. Yet Politico builds an entire article around the premise that Obama might have to do so-and-so.

Meanwhile, Time's Michael Scherer highlights the obvious (intentional?) lack of context in Politico's reporting:

more at link: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005060004


BTW, Contributions from employees of, for example, BP are NOT contributions by the corporation.

So, the Politico and other articles popularly cited are deliberately misleading.

:patriot:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:20 PM
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21. thank you
I was just looking for this :hi:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:21 PM
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23. do you think exempting BP from the required Environmental Impact Study was OK?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:25 PM
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27. I don't think relying on Politico's false reporting is going to help anything.
Edited on Thu May-06-10 09:26 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:28 PM
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29. the article is not from Politico; and it raises serious concerns; why was BP exempted?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:33 PM
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34. The blog post cites an article based on Politico's slanted reporting
The article is refers to "Blacklisted news" fails in the very first sentence. It did not take "two weeks' to respond to the disaster. This is not surprising since this site also endorses the notion of "chemtrails" and various other conspiracy theories.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:35 PM
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38. Open Secrets reports it, too; and many news outlets; same with the exemption
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:37 PM
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39. They report that Obama exempted BP because of 70,000 dollars? No.
That's just that blogger's conspiracy theory.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:44 AM
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64. Bullsh*t
Edited on Fri May-07-10 02:44 AM by Kalun D
Obama is bought and paid for

Open secrets is a progressive organization

these aren't theories, these are facts

did you know that Geitner and Bernanke are REPUBLICANS?

did you know Obama was front and center pushing the BUSH ADMIN $700 Billion bailout through congress?

you know the one where Goldman Sachs got $Billions for their $996,000 contribution to Obama?

People need to take off their corporate television Obama blinders and face the damn truth.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:13 AM
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67. Geithner has lied repeatedly to Congress,
Edited on Fri May-07-10 03:14 AM by truedelphi
And for that, his position should be impeached. but it will never happen.

Geithner also tells Congress that "your country" doesn't have the ability to thus and so, and "your government" doesn't have the ability to do thus and so. ??? Noyt "our" government, but "your." ???

Geithner did not grow up inside this county - his father worked fo r the Ford Foundation, and Little Timmy only spent nine mos here as a kid growing up.

he has no loyalty to us.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #64
72. +1000
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #27
63. Not All
Of that Politco report is false

Goldman Sachs was Obama's 2nd largest campaign contributor

and of course in return he appointed the REPUBLICAN Geitner to head banking

and re-appointed the REPUBLICAN BUSH APPOINTEE Bernanke

and it's corporate business as usual and the workers are continuing to get raped

why do people keep buying that Obama is on our side

HE'S NOT

he's corporate all the way, all he gives us is lip service

FYI, KOS is a left wing site

but everyone has the corporate TV Obama blinders on and they can see no wrong

what a bunch of fricking SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #23
35. Of course not. And one has nothing to do with the other.
My reply has to do with how individuals' contributions are lumped in with those of Corporations' PACs to mislead readers.

Nothing more.

With respect to skirting the EIR requirement, this matter really needs to be investigated.

:patriot:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #35
40. would people think this was ok if it concerned a repub? doubtful; corporate donations to Bush have
always rightfully been bashed, because they're disgusting, and explain much;
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Not a corporate donation. It was donations by people that work for BP
I work for a shitty company that is headed by an extremely conservative republican. My donation to Obama does not mean the company donated to Obama.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:20 PM
Response to Original message
22. How many times is this same shit going to get posted? Give it up.
Unrec.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. this is the first I've seen it, and it's important; we're facing an ecological catastrophe
and there needs to be an investigation into why BP was exempted
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #24
46. Really? You didn't know about this until now?
Can I borrow your time machine?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #46
49. ROFLOL!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #46
59. Well done...
Edited on Fri May-07-10 02:14 AM by SidDithers
much better investigation than the one done by FDL and politico.

Sid

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #46
81. OMG. So he/she really DID know this was posted before. Good grief.
Thank you.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:07 AM
Response to Reply #24
61. Ideologically I am kinda on your side
But you just got smacked down hard. You really need to be honest or it'll bite ya on the ass, knowwhatimean?
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #61
74. "smacked down" not at all; the truth is hard to accept
for many posters who defend Obama for behaviors they'd rightfully condemn in others;

otherwise, what, exactly, are you referring to?

some snarky ad hominum comments? i simply said I hadn't seen any OP concerning the big campaign donations to Obama from BP; not sure what you're referring to

nothing has been "smacked down;"
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. Well, Jane Hamsher hadn't weighed in yet. We were all waiting, with bated breath...
for her special brand of reportage. I can't believe someone who spends so much time on DU couldn't find that this subject has been discussed to death, and refuted.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. nothing has been refuted; an investigation is needed into the exemption
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. Desperate much?
What exactly should be investigated?

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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. I think there should be an investigation, but only because this was a huge disaster.
I think the evidence presented is pretty thin.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #45
47. glad you agree there needs to be an investigation!
i happened to see KO yesterday; had Defenders of Wildlife's Kieran Suckling discussing the BP exemption, and calling for Salazar's resignation.

MSNBC had a news article about this also; so did other outlets; it's incredible that BP was exempted from this required envirnmental impact study; if the study had been conducted, the project would have been prohibited and this catastrophe averted.

Salazar apparently has very close ties to Big Oil, and he is Int Secy; the buck stops with him;
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #31
50. Where was it refuted? If you mean that now we don't count
individual donations all from one corporation as support from that corporation, fine, we know that. That also means that when we listed Bush's 'Top Donors' this point SHOULD have been raised, but I don't recall ever seeing it then.

But I have not seen anyone refuting the news that BP was exempted from testing. If it has been posted here, could you direct us to a link?

Two things need to be answered by this administration. If it is true that BP was exempted, they need to explain why. And Obama's lifting of the ban on Offshore drilling a few weeks ago. When those of us who opposed that decision said so, we were basically told to 'stfu' because while there would have been outrage if Bush did, this was different, our team was doing it. He was opposed to it and got elected because of many of the positions he took then, and has since flip-flopped on.

If President Obama had been the candidate, I for one would not have supported him. Not on Health Care, noton Education, not on escalating the Afghanistan War, not on making Assassination legal, not on Offshore Drilling, and a myriad of other positions he took AFTER he was elected. I feel we were either deceived or someone is threatening him. Because no one 'changes' their minds like this on so many issues, other than for one of those two reasons.

I would like to know what changed his mind.

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #50
54. agree;
for any president to do a 180 about face on one major campaign pledge after another, over and over, raises so many red flags;


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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:47 AM
Response to Reply #22
65. PUT ON YOUR CORPORATE TELEVISION BLINDERS EVERYONE
DENY THE TRUTH

OBAMA IS FOR THE PEOPLE

HE'S NOT HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY THE GREED PIG CORPORATIONS THAT ARE RUINING THE COUNTRY AND THE PLANET
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:53 PM
Response to Original message
48. I fail to see the importance of this, aart from the coincidental nature of it
I sure don't see Obama doing anything to "earn" those bucks ..... at least not so far. Until he does, this story is worth nothing more than filing.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #48
55. you don't see the importance of the exemption?
done in April 2009.....

had the study been done, the project would not have been approved

and you don't find it fishy that Obama advocates drilling, same as Palin?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #55
95. Gimme a break. I'm tryin' to earn back some creds with the local Kool Kids
Thanks for setting out the facts.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #48
56. He lifted the ban on Offshore drilling.
Even Bush didn't dare to do that for his oil buddies. Why did he change his mind on that? His explanation in his speech didn't explain it. He attacked McCain in the campaign for wanting to drill offshore and eloquently stated his reasons for opposing it. Then, out of the blue, he changed his mind. It was a stunning flip-flop on an issue that he knew was very important to those who elected him. And the convoluted excuses given by blind supporters, 'he is calling the bluff of the right' etc. were simply ridiculous. But I would like to know how someone could do such an about face without even an apology to those who put their faith in him to protect the environment.

I am certain that BP was very happy about that decision though.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #56
71. +1000
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The Old Creak Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #56
75. His administration
specifically exempted Deepwater Horizon from a full environmental review. The article referenced below, of course, said that President Obama "personally" signed the waiver, but provides no support. Still, the corporations have us all by the short-hairs and this is not good.


http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/nick-pell/28504/worst-week-ever
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #56
80. Because he was 'calling the bluff of the right'
Because of this:

US military warns oil output may dip causing massive shortages by 2015

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/11/peak-oil-production-supply

and this:

Energy minister will hold summit to calm rising fears over peak oil

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/mar/21/peak-oil-summit


All related to this:

Peaking of World Oil Production: Impacts, Mitigation and Risk Management.
Hirsch, Bezdek, Wendling, February 2005

http://s31076.gridserver.com/images/uploads/the_hirsch_report.pdf (.pdf)

. . .

Because conventional oil production decline will start at the time of peaking, crash program mitigation inherently cannot avert massive shortages unless it is initiated well in advance of peaking.

Specifically,
* Waiting until world conventional oil production peaks before initiating crash program mitigation leaves the world with a significant liquid fuel deficit for two decades or longer.
* Initiating a crash program 10 years before world oil peaking would help considerably but would still result in a worldwide liquid fuels shortfall, starting roughly a decade after the time that oil would have otherwise peaked.
* Initiating crash program mitigation 20 years before peaking offers the possibility of avoiding a world liquid fuels shortfall for the forecast period.

Without timely mitigation, world supply/demand balance will be achieved through massive demand destruction (shortages), accompanied by huge oil price increases, both of which would create a long period of significant economic hardship worldwide.



Obama has been made aware of the looming crises. To get out ahead of the issue politically, he authorized the 'study' of more offshore drilling, as a wedge to get passed energy legislation that may actually reduce our dependence on fossil and imported energy.

The oligarchs know. And the Republicans did not pursue offshore to the degree Obama has. Their answer was to steal the 70% of the worlds reserves, which includes nearly all of the 'easy' oil remaining. An oilman knows the difference between 'easy' and 'hard' oil:

From the standpoint of the oil industry obviously - and I'll talk a little later on about gas - for over a hundred years we as an industry have had to deal with the pesky problem that once you find oil and pump it out of the ground you've got to turn around and find more or go out of business. Producing oil is obviously a self-depleting activity. Every year you've got to find and develop reserves equal to your output just to stand still, just to stay even. This is as true for companies as well in the broader economic sense it is for the world. A new merged company like Exxon-Mobil will have to secure over a billion and a half barrels of new oil equivalent reserves every year just to replace existing production. It's like making one hundred per cent interest; discovering another major field of some five hundred million barrels equivalent every four months or finding two Hibernias a year. For the world as a whole, oil companies are expected to keep finding and developing enough oil to offset our seventy one million plus barrel a day of oil depletion, but also to meet new demand. By some estimates there will be an average of two per cent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead along with conservatively a three per cent natural decline in production from existing reserves. That means by 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? Governments and the national oil companies are obviously in control of about ninety per cent of the assets. Oil remains fundamentally a government business. While many regions of the world often greet oil opportunities, the Middle East with two thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies, even though companies are anxious for greater access there, progress continues to be slow..

- Former CEO of Halliburton, Dick Cheney, At London Institute of Petroleum, 1999

So, Obama is enough of a pragmatist to know that once gas hits $7/gal in the next few years, everything will be on the table, including the future of the Democratic Party. I have no doubt that the studies and EIS overseen by a Democratic led DOE/EPA will be more comprehensive than those conducted during a 'Drill baby drill' administration. Obama also now knows, like anyone who follows the Peak Oil issue closely, that the 'Big Oil' interest in 'deep water', which is where any further exploitable off-shore reserves will be found, is waining. BP was drilling the current prospect, which is relatively small, because of it's proximity to the existing BP Thunderhorse infrastructure.

Sorry for another of the 'convoluted excuses given by blind supporters', but this is the way I see it.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #80
92. I'm not sure what all that has to do with Obama
Edited on Sat May-08-10 03:13 AM by sabrina 1
lifting the ban on offshore drilling. The rumors about Peak Oil have been around for a long time. Everyone knows we have to find an alternative to oil, sooner rather than later. That didn't influence anyone, including Obama, to support Offshore drilling. Nothing in your OP is news and all of it was known to Obama when he vehemently opposed Offshore drilling during the campaign. It was known to most of US, so he certainly knew.

At what point did he get this sudden inspiration that the way to get Republicans on board for his energy policies was to give them what they wanted regarding offshore drilling? And when did it dawn on him that they were just kidding all along and really had no interest in it?

And most of all, is he so naive, after failing to get a single Republican vote in return for including so many of their ideas in the HC Bill, that giving them what they want will get him any support on his energy policies? Because if he is that naive, he is not fit to be president.

He certainly didn't seem to have all these brilliant ideas right up to his election and if he got some new information since then, he hasn't revealed it. I listened to his sppech. HE is not making the argument you are making on his behalf.

I notice you soften what his lifting of the ban actually means. He didn't say they can just 'conduct studies'. He said he was lifting the ban on Offshore drilling, something every, single Democrat has opposed for decades, and even some Conservatives. Were they all just too stupid to 'get it' the way Obama suddenly 'got it' AFTER the election? Al Gore? Jimmy Carter? Clinton? Everyone?

You're certainly free to see it any way you wish, but I wonder if Bush or a McCain/Palin administration had lifted the ban, would you still see it this way? Because what you're actually saying is that Palin was right, that she 'got it' long before Obama.

So, that is my question to you. If this was MCain/Palin, would you be defending them with the same argument?

Sorry, I'm not buying it. I believe Obama was right during the campaign when he attacked McCain for wanting to do what he now has done himself. And your reasoning doesn't make any sense, since the information you say he 'knows' he knew THEN. And with that information, he opposed Offshore drilling.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #92
97. suddenly, b/c it's "our" guy, all standards are gone; Obama's sudden embrace of "drill, baby, drill"
is mighty suspicious

let's face it: Obama campaigned on the promise of a green jobs initiative; but instead, we see him advocate nuclear reactors, and now "drill, baby, drill, as the answer to our energy consumption;

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #56
96. Gimme a break. I'm tryin' to earn back some creds with the local Kool Kids
I can see that the facts don't support them, though. Thanks! :hi:
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. i'm afraid that
the Kool Kids drank the Kool Aid here;
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:14 AM
Response to Original message
57. K&R for the realists - got it back to +1. (nt)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #57
58. K/R #3
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:01 AM
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60. Unrec for being deliberatly misleading...nt
Sid
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:00 AM
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66. And if republicans reclaim the House.......
This will be one of the articles of impeachment.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 04:20 AM
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69. k & r
Let's keep the honest, Rep or Dem.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:49 AM
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
78. Great! Obama has been legally Bribed... expect very little to happen to BP now
this is the problem with our system of government... corporate bribery of our elected officials... hell we are no longer electing them as much as the god damn parasites in the upper class!!!!!!!!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:55 AM
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79. Unrec for a misleading post
BOOO!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. And unrecced for saying he/she didn't know it had already been posted.
When clearly he/she did, as was shown above.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #82
83. Unrecced for the flaming panties... and...
For all who don't get that employee donations don't a corporate donation make... and for those who don't get that corporations tend to throw money at those who are going to actually win and be in a position to do favors... and for those who believe all this shit without enough dots to connect to make it mean something.

Got dots? No? STFU!
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #83
85. for the truth
that's why the un-rec
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #82
84. ?
no, i did not know someone had posted a similar funding OP

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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #82
86. You have to admit, tho, it was pretty funny...
Edited on Fri May-07-10 03:09 PM by SidDithers
Even Jon approves



Sid
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #86
88. It was funny. Jon is right again! nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:33 PM
Response to Original message
89. And he just told them to clean up their own damn mess to...
Edited on Fri May-07-10 03:34 PM by and-justice-for-all
this is yet another example of Shurb Co. deregulation..
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jeanpalmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 03:39 AM
Response to Original message
93. Makes you wonder
how BP was nominated by the Obama administration as one of three finalists for its award honoring "outstanding safety and pollution prevention."

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/30/in-ironic-twist-bp-finalist-for-pollution-prevention-award/
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:25 PM
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100. Obama nominated BP for "outstanding safety and pollution prevention"
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gov for sale Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:13 PM
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102. The drill policy and cozy BP relationship is BS... sorry if you believe the man benevolent
...the first step is admitting you have a problem ....and step 9 is making amends. Hopefully we can forgo steps 2 through 8....

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