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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:06 AM
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Typo on Wall Street? No freaking way
I've heard this in two places now, some schmuck hit a b for billion when he meant m for million.

I don't know what happened on Wall Street today, but it wasn't that. If that were possible it would happen multiple times a day. People make typos all the time. This thing that happened today has never happened.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:12 AM
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1. Additionally, I have trouble believing that the software requires the trader to type "millions"
I've worked with four different trading platforms (admittedly, there are countless variations, so the four I've seen might not represent anything like the norm) and all of them required pure numeric inputs. That is, a five million dollar trade is entered as 5000000.00, while a five billion dollar trade would be 5000000000.00.

Incidentally, the largest single trade that I ever processed was for $750M, followed by $250M for the same client--it was a billion-dollar transaction, but the system couldn't handle trades that large, so we had to break it into to pieces. Whatever system the "fat-fingered" guy was using, I suspect that it would issue a warning for trades entered in that huge amount, if it would let them be processed at all.

If a typo did indeed occur along these lines, it seems almost more likely that he mistyped/miswrote an email to the person who actually placed the trade.

Of course, that would mean that there are at least two idiots who need to be fired, but that's how it goes.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:40 AM
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4. Plus, I think it's standard that you're only allowed to put a sell order in for no more than the
number of shares you hold. While I'm sure Citibank has a lot of P&G shares, I really doubt it has a billion, especially considering there are less than three billion outstanding.

This coupled with the completely bizarre accenture chart makes me think that something a bit more nefarious was going on. I'm sure there are people out there capable of hacking the NASDAQ and NYSE computers.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:55 AM
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6. Nefarious?
Do you think the big banks were involved?
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RonSunn Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 05:48 AM
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12. No one mentions the rise back from almost 1000 points down
It seemed to be on the rebound but not enough time before closing.

I remember it dropped 500 points during bush terms like 4 times, and no one mentions that in the media.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 06:18 AM
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13. That wouldn't
make Obama look bad. It might also help people to remember it's not a new occurrence.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:13 AM
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2. I'm thinking the same thing. I think today the market showed us that
there's no REAL liquidity... in case anyone wondered.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:20 AM
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3. I think the big banks may have pulled back their stock...
just to show how much power they had over the stock market and the American economy and the Senators blinked.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:45 AM
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5. I'm not dismissing your thought on that
Edited on Fri May-07-10 12:47 AM by grasswire
Keeping it on the back burner.

One never knows, anymore.

On edit: did you check the timing on those two?
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:11 AM
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7. Unbelievable!
No self-respecting programmer would design an input procedure that didn't have realistic LIMITS on input values. Also, even the pros need an are you sure? (y/n).
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:13 AM
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8. Try this explanation..
Edited on Fri May-07-10 01:17 AM by girl gone mad
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=114x78454

Tyler's analysis is correct, imo, and he has predicted from day one that an event such as today's would be the outcome of the high-frequency trading takeover on Wall St. It was all fun and games as long as we were melting up, but now the tables have turned.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:34 AM
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9. I always know when the market is going to tank. It's a day or two after
Edited on Fri May-07-10 01:34 AM by The_Casual_Observer
I think it's finally time to jump back in.
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PinkFloyd Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:19 AM
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10. I also call shenanigans....
Because it's so hard to believe the entire market could go down the crapper just because one man accidentally hit a wrong button. If it is true, they need better security or better software or something. As much havoc as this could cause it would surprise me if we don't experience a cyber-attack of this nature someday.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 05:43 AM
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11. But no regulation is needed. Riiiiiiiight.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:24 AM
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14. Al Quaeda has hacked the Wall Street computer system.
Edited on Fri May-07-10 07:24 AM by Kablooie
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