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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:30 AM Original message |
Why I am now completley sold on our US two party system |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. That 2000 election worked out great, eh? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Sometimes it takes a whole election to convince people not to throw away their votes, though they |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Actually, what it shows is what happens when one party panders too far to the right |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. If that were the case, then Nader wouldn't have lost 90% of his share in 2004. But he did. Nice try. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Lesson- if you create a political vacuum, someone or some party will come along and fill it |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Did they also teach you that bullshit theories unsupported by evidence are not facts? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. No, it shows what happens when the party in charge engages in widespread |
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anakie (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Nader? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. And that was out of the ordinary how? |
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anakie (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. which is a pretty ordinary turnout for the worlds greatest |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. If Nader decided not to run (or endorsed Gore), Gore would have won. |
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anakie (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. it is all what if of course |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Everyone is perfectly entitled to be mind-numbingly stupd |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Being stupid is voting for the same people and expecting different results! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Why not blame Gore for not getting the votes of the left? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. "I don't care that there were other causes." |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. NO! If Gore had quit his campaign and endorsed Nader, then Nader would have won. |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. Nader didn't lose the 2000 election for Gore, Gore and the democratic party did! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. The Liberal Democratic Party is in an excellent position to get a referrendum |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. 51% + just over 50% = just over 101%. What am I missing? nt |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. 51% of the vote for Lib Dems and Labour |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Oh, that makes sense now. Thanks. Disproportionate seating is common in Briton, |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
6. I like parliamentary systems BECAUSE they are |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Presidential-parliamentary systems have the advantages mentioned in your post plus |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. there are no two parties here..there is one party with one big money pot in the middle..the 2 party |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. +1 nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. +1 |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
40. +1 |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
48. Absolutely! The 2 party system is a myth. Both the Ds & Rs are whores to the same corporate masters. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. How is that significantly different than popular vote vs ... |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
12. edit: nevermind |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
15. There are more parties involved than the ones you mention |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. Except the Tories haven't, on projected results, got enough seats to have a majority. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
18. the lesser of two evils is? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
20. I guess you like the permanent "good cop-bad cop" treatment, eh? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. Three parties should be minimum. Two is no better than one. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. But they will be a minority government |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. a "choice between the lesser of two evils" is a crappy choice, one I refuse to make |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:46 AM Original message |
"America has one political party with two right wings" Gore Vidal |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
26. "America has one political party with two right wings" Gore Vidal |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
27. Better yet, let's have multiple parties and proportional representation |
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kedrys (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:03 AM Response to Original message |
28. Yeah, because if we only had 2 parties up here, |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
30. The Tories are closer to our democrats |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
31. Two party system? |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
33. Well, I disagree that the dems are evil to any degree but.. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. yah right!!!!!!!!!!! Kool aide on isle 3 .......blue light special...... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
34. When you have to present a choice between US Democrats |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. We have 2 parties? I'm only seeing a single Corporate Party. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Seriously, if the opposition party fails to oppose then what good are they doing? That really leaves |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
43. The U.S. system is not even close to being representational. |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-10-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. That's why we need proportional representation though elections. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yeah, it's working out awesome. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. Yes, long llive the Single Unified Capitaist War Party! |
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