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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 09:52 PM
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Tell-All Generation Learns to Keep Things Offline (Maybe getting smarter about Facebook, etc)
Min Liu, a 21-year-old liberal arts student at the New School in New York City, got a Facebook account at 17 and chronicled her college life in detail, from rooftop drinks with friends to dancing at a downtown club. Recently, though, she has had second thoughts.

Concerned about her career prospects, she asked a friend to take down a photograph of her drinking and wearing a tight dress. When the woman overseeing her internship asked to join her Facebook circle, Ms. Liu agreed, but limited access to her Facebook page. “I want people to take me seriously,” she said.

The conventional wisdom suggests that everyone under 30 is comfortable revealing every facet of their lives online, from their favorite pizza to most frequent sexual partners. But many members of the tell-all generation are rethinking what it means to live out loud.

While participation in social networks is still strong, a survey released last month by the University of California, Berkeley, found that more than half the young adults questioned had become more concerned about privacy than they were five years ago — mirroring the number of people their parent’s age or older with that worry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/us/09privacy.html
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:10 PM
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1. That has been my experience
Realizing every thing you say or do online will be there permanently, and that search engine technology is constantly getting better and better means you should really keep most of it offline.

Its not just facebook either. Every message forum you post on can more or less be traced back to your real life identity.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:14 PM
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2. Facebook is evil and I refuse to participate.
Seriously, am I the only one out there that has no need to share my entire life with...well, everyone??? My own husband is addicted to his page but then again he plays in a band so it is a good place to promote the shows. I have no pics of myself I want anyone to see, I don't want any future bosses of mine to ask to join my "circle", I don't want people to annoy me by wanting to "chat" (a complaint of my husband). I am a younger Gen Xer not a Millennial but still everyone I know has a stupid Facebook page. Enough.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:32 PM
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3. I wouldn't know what a Facebook page looked like if it bit me in the ass.
:hi:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:33 PM
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4. Smart. Facebook is getting revealed for the problem it is. I have been posting...
Visual Guide To Facebook's Privacy Changes/Security Exposure Over Time (PICTURES)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8295294

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's Business Cards Used To Read 'I'm CEO...B**ch!'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8285446

Six reasons to hate Facebook's new anti-privacy system, "Connections"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8276447

Top Ten Reasons You Should Quit Facebook
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8268624

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:40 PM
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5. Facebook is obviously a tool for corporations to spy on you.
I just hope DU isn't. }(
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:12 PM
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9. Hey onehandle... Did You See This ???
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:18 PM
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11. Yeah, I posted that earlier.
I am not a fan of how Facebook is taking over the social net. Can you tell?

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:23 PM
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16. as long as you keep your page content PG-rated
and personal info about yourself to a minimum, it can still be useful...

I've been able to get a lot out of it knowing full well different parties constantly comb through it...
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 10:58 PM
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6. Just as long as there's still material for these...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:04 PM
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7. Anyone who ever drank at a college party is undesirable to be an employee?
Do the Puritans still run things?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 12:01 AM
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12. employers are very risk averse
and when you get dozens or hundreds of equally qualified (or overqualified) people applying for a job, you can use minor personal indiscretions to weed out candidates.

And yes there are some real puritans out there - literally. Do not underestimate the number of right wing fundamentalist christians making hiring decisions
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 08:59 PM
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13. They are idiots
Just because there is no picture of someone drinking at college parties doesn't mean they never did. However did companies keep running before the internet!

I wouldn't want to work for right wing Christians. People should weed out employers like that! What else would they do to judge one's personal life? What if you for instance are a woman and got pregnant and weren't married?

Then there is the type of employer who would not want someone who'd never partied as an employee. Had an employer like that once. Would not have wanted a puritan employee.
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Sisaruus Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:49 PM
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15. Convertsely, there are those of us who are left-wing atheists
who also get to make some hiring decisions. And who get creeped out by overt right wing fundamentalist christian profiles.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:34 PM
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17. It's very simple.
You have one job to offer and get 500 resumes. After filtering based on experience, education, and applicability, you end up with five highly qualified candidates. After the interviews and vetting take place, you still have three left. How do you pick from the three?

This is the point where hiring nearly always runs into personal bias and opinion, and the decision ends up being made by trivial, nitpicky details. Like who pressed their suit better. Or who had the whitest teeth, and would therefore be more appealing in a client meeting. Or who took an extra year to finish their degree. Or, even, who walked in with the crocodile folio and obviously has no "environmental sense". I mention these because I have sat on hiring committees, and I have SEEN people selected or excluded from positions over these very "issues". When everything else is equal, the decision tend to come down to trivial, pedantic details.

Like who drank more in college, and was dumb enough to post their puke geyser shot on Facebook.
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cayanne Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:08 PM
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8. How does one get out of facebook?
How do I quit
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:17 PM
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10. I found this just now.
Bottom line, you have to deactivate stay away for 2 weeks+.

I would take a look after that time passes to make sure.

http://www.sporkings.com/2010/05/how-to-quit-facebook/
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:46 PM
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18. i was just reading last week that deactivation doesn't keep facebook from making your info public
via searches, etc. You have to delete the account. They make you leap through a few hoops before you get there.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:41 PM
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14. Delete account link
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:50 PM
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19. I removed my Facebook page...
I just can't take time for it anymore. Plus all the little things people request you to do..and give.. meh.

I just gave up. I don't have the time or energy for it, nor is it even fun anymore.
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