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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:12 PM
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CNN anchor: "Queen Elizabeth has had a lifelong love affair with horses."
I do wish she'd rephrase.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:13 PM
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1. I hope not quite like Catherine the Great.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:13 PM
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2. Exactly. nt
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:22 PM
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11. Oh come on BB. That rumor was started primarily by men in power who hated her success and tried
Edited on Sat May-05-07 04:23 PM by shance
to destroy her reputation because she had had so many successes.

"I have received a few inquiries about the so-called "horse story". I have been studying every aspect of the life of Catherine the Great. One eminent historian explained how such a preposterous story could have started: apparently the anti-monarchy forces in France circulated such rubbish soon after Catherine's death throughout Europe with the intention of discrediting her many achievements.

Catherine had become the enemy of France after she had voiced sharply her outrage when word had reached St. Petersburg that the king and queen had been executed. She ordered the court to declare 6 weeks of mourning on Oct. 27, 1793.

This proclamation was in memory of Marie Antoinette, who had been killed a few months after her husband, King Louis XVI. She denounced these evil forces very vocally. She also welcomed many French refugees to St. Petersburg. Each of them had to swear allegiance to the Imperial Crown of Russia. She was very anxious not to transport the seeds of revolution to her own country.

Catherine had relationships with several guardsmen younger than herself, but she was neither vulgar nor licentious. She was a lady of high intellect, a tireless worker for the good of Russia, and above all, she was human and she was kind. She was a legend in her own time. I have been familiar with her story for many years. Her behavior throughout her exceptional life was at all times understandable. No other ruler had her many fine qualities.

"Once only, but for all times, I would like to make it clear that Catherine suffered a stroke at the age of 67, inside her water closet. She was discovered by her maid, lying on the carpet against her commode. The door had prevented her from stretching out her legs. Her eyes were closed, her face congested. There was foam on her lips and a rattle in her throat. Others rushed in when they heard the cries of her maid. They combined their many efforts to lift her heavy body, but staggered. They pulled a leather mattress from a sofa to the floor. There she stayed while doctors tried to bleed her. But they knew it was the end. She died several hours later without regaining consciousness, stretched out by now in her canopied bed."



http://members.tripod.com/~Nevermore/ctgfaq.htm
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:12 PM
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26. from "History Laid Bare. . .love, sex, and perversity from the ancient Etruscans to
Warren G Harding" by Richard Zacks

pg 255

"Catherine the Great and Her Young Lovers, 1770's

No she did not die when the harness broke, while have sex with some stallion in a barn.

Catherine the Great (1727-1796) didn't love horses, she loved Officers in the Imperial Horse Guard, handsome young ones. Over time, this passionate woman developed a system whereby her close confidant (either Countess Bruce or Mlle. Protassav) would act as "esprouveuse" or "court tester," and sample the love making skills of the chosen young man; then British Dr. Rogerson would examine him. If he passed both tests, he was installed as the favoriteand would usually last a year or two and earn tens of thousands of rubles, and property and serfs.

Did Catherine deserve her reputation as possibly the lustiest monarch of all time? Hardly. She had only twelve lovers* over a forty-four-year period. What might have shocked some was that her last, Plato Zubof, was twenty-one, when Catherine was in her sixties."

Sounds like a smear campaign campaign ala K-k-karl to me.

*all her paramours were decidedly human according to this incredibly well researched and highly entertaining book.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:42 PM
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28. Catherine did love riding horses--just not having horses ride her.
Hot young cavalrymen--now that was something else!

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:49 PM
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14. Lay off of Catherine the Great already!
Who among us hasn't gotten a little horse from time to time? :evilgrin:
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:03 PM
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21. *snerk*...that's what I was thinking....n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:14 PM
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3. ...so she could always get a show-biz job in Tijuana if Queening
turns sour on her.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:16 PM
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4. That explains a LOT about Charles!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:16 PM
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5. Man, whew that title.
It's just ripe for -
comments.

But I better see what other posters have to say below mine.:smoke:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:16 PM
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6. cool. George likes milking them
Edited on Sat May-05-07 04:16 PM by burythehatchet
that's kinda like a love affair
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:16 PM
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7. Yeah but I'll
bet she does not milk the male horses like Shrub.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:20 PM
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8. Yes, but I heard she's especially fond of GELDINGS
Apparently she prefers her love objects to have been genitally mutilated.

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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:21 PM
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9. Where is
Michael Brown when we actually need him?
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:22 PM
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10. I'm thinking Peter Shaffer's "Equus."
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:55 PM
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15. That, and the new documentary "Zoo".
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:22 PM
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12. Well beastiality is what you get when
you let gays get married

:sarcasm:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 04:36 PM
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13. "We are NOT amused...."
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 05:08 PM
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16. Queen Elizabeth has several horses in Kentucky. Most are brood
mares. Kentucky bluegrass is exceptional for thoroughbreds because it has an increased amount of (oh, no, now I have forgotten what) something like calcium. The queen is a fine horsewoman herself. Anne was a famous jumper; Charles and Philip and the boys play polo, which takes skill on a horse. Horses are wonderful. Now I am signing off to go watch the Kentucky Derby.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 07:23 PM
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33. Er, yes, horses are great . . .
but again, this is about how the anchor... oh never mind.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 05:09 PM
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17. Queen Elizabeth has several horses in Kentucky. Most are brood
mares. Kentucky bluegrass is exceptional for thoroughbreds because it has an increased amount of (oh, no, now I have forgotten what) something like calcium. The queen is a fine horsewoman herself. Anne was a famous jumper; Charles and Philip and the boys play polo, which takes skill on a horse. Horses are wonderful. Now I am signing off to go watch the Kentucky Derby.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 05:27 PM
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18. Bush should introduce the Queen to Karen Hughes - love at first sight
The Queen could ride her around Camp David. If the Queen brought along another British citizen, Jane Goodall, the foursome could double date.
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 05:58 PM
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19. LOL! This is....
the most puerile thread I've seen today!

:rofl:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:01 PM
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20. too easy.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:06 PM
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22. I thought it was Charles that liked Camilla.
:rofl:
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:12 PM
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25. Touche!
n/t.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:07 PM
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23. Maybe she and George can get together and milk one.
Did I say that?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:11 PM
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24. The Queen almost won the Grand National once but her horse fell down in the stretch
He'd made it through the grueling four mile steeplechase under jockey Dick Francis (yes the mystery writer) and was in the stretch heading for home with a big lead when the horse (whose name I've forgotten) collapsed. Everyone feared for the worse but a few minutes later he got to his feet and shook himself off as if nothing had happened. No one could find anything wrong with him.

She's always owned racehorses, I was surprised to hear this was her first derby.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:26 PM
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27. I shouldn't say this but her family looks like horses, especially
Charles and Camilla. I know...I know...I shouldn't say stuff like this. My bad.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:45 PM
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29. That explains Charles' ears.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:50 PM
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30. Jane Fonda could remake that movie
with a new title: "They Sc*** Horses, Don't They?"

Not that I believe Queens Liz or Cathy did (and frankly the imagine is making me a little queasy), but it would still be a great movie title.
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 06:52 PM
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31. T...M...I
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-05-07 07:01 PM
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32. William Tell Overture Earworm!! Help!!
:evilgrin:

Heya Blue!

:hi: :hug: :bounce: :pals:
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