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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:35 AM
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Why 'anti-gay' Christians keep getting outed
Edited on Tue May-11-10 09:36 AM by NorthCarolina
by Michelle Goldberg

Dr. George Rekers, a Christian anti-gay leader, was caught with a hooker from Rentboy.com—the latest example of hypocrisy on the religious right. Michelle Goldberg on why Ted Haggards keep happening.

In 1996, three researchers from the University of Georgia published a study in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology about the links between homophobia and homosexual arousal. The authors, Henry E. Adams, Lester W. Wright, Jr., and Bethany A. Lohr, started with 35 straight men identified as homophobic and 29 straight men that were not. Both groups were shown heterosexual, lesbian and gay male porn while their erectile responses were measured. “Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli,” reported the researchers.

It was empirical evidence for a theory long popular among psychoanalysts: that those most hostile to gay people are often driven by terror and shame about their own desires.

So it’s not terribly surprising that Dr. George Rekers, a major figure in anti-gay Christian right circles, has been caught traveling with a male prostitute who advertises on Rentboy.com—becoming the latest in a long line of disgraced culture warriors.

---snip---

Link: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-05-05/the-christian-rights-gay-problem/full/
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:43 AM
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1. This concept, whether people knew it was scientific in basis or not...
Has been bandied about quite a bit by those of us who get a lot of schadenfreude out of it (I'm one of them).

It's also why I say that when Fred Phelps dies, his family is going to uncover a huge cache of hardcore gay porn when going through his quarters.

TlalocW
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:17 AM
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7. Yep.
My schadenfreude gets a little chubby over these stories, too.....

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:22 AM
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9. No foolin'. There have been Phelps sightings on lower Polk St. in SF
which is where you go to get hardcore gay porn (Factoid: Margaret Cho's parents ran a bookshop there!).
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:44 PM
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14. Our favorite Margaret Cho line
"I did not expect ass so soon -- I thought there would be table of contents, then ass!"
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:12 PM
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18. Polk Street? I have been there.
My cousin was a brilliant musician. He was a trumpet player in the house band at the New Bell Saloon. Now gone from AIDS. A gentle wonderful man.

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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:48 PM
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15. Wrong!!!!!!!!!
They won't find anything. Because they already know about it.

I would be willing to bet that there is a full porn video facility in the Phelps compound tho'. Are there any children missing in the area of his "church?"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:39 PM
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16. I think old man phelps liked boys as a younger man. I read that
in a reputable place once. I wish I could remember.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:50 AM
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2. If only the Christian Right could do away with all the homosexuals
then... they would not be tempted to sin.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:58 AM
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3. The catch 22 in that is.......
there would probably be few Christians left.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 10:00 AM
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4. A sample of 64 men is hardly conclusive...
...I certainly think there's a connection, but it seems like it's too easy to explain away homophbia as simply latent homosexuality.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 10:22 AM
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5. What size sampling is required to meet the criteria of "conclusive"?
I think the sample size is sufficient to suggest a trend.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:10 AM
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6. Of course, the study did not say 'all' the homophobic men reacted
to the pics - only that of the two groups only men in the homophobic group reacted.

Of course not all homophobia is due to latent homosexuality, but certainly a significant subset of homophobia is.

It's like the Nazi anti-Semitic/Jewish connection. A significant number of the most virulent anti-Semitic Nazis had some Jewish ancestry - that by no means indicates that all Nazis were Jewish.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:19 AM
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8. According to a comedian: ALL men have homosexual tendencies
I heard a comedian say all men have homosexual tendencies because not one of them wants to watch a porn movie with a guy with a limp member. He wants to see copulation or other sex acts requiring an erect penis.

I can't remember the comedian's name but his observation is food for thought.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:37 AM
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10. I believe you're thinking of Ron White
Ron White - "Everyone is gay, it's just to what extent are you gay."
RW's Brother - "Nu-uh, I'm not gay! (etc.)"
RW - "Oh yeah, you like porn?"
Brother - "You know I like porn."
RW - "Do you only like to see two women together?"
B - "Naw, I'll watch a man and a woman makin' love."
RW - "Do you like the man to have a small, half-flacid penis?"
B - "Nah, I like em with a big, hard, throbbing cock...."
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:41 AM
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12. Ron White is surprisingly non-homophobic for the company he keeps.
He called homophobia "the most useless emotion on the face of the earth".

Also, as to the end of that: "Ya like chocolate?"
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:53 AM
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22. NorthCarolina, THANK YOU! I love it when someone can remember what I can not!
That's the exact skit I was referring to. And it does make one wonder doesn't it? :) Thanks for his name and for the full skit. That made my day and it's not even 9 am!

Thank you!

(BTW: I reposted it here so I could save it to my journal so I won't forget his name!)


I believe you're thinking of Ron White
Posted by NorthCarolina

Ron White - "Everyone is gay, it's just to what extent are you gay."
RW's Brother - "Nu-uh, I'm not gay! (etc.)"
RW - "Oh yeah, you like porn?"
Brother - "You know I like porn."
RW - "Do you only like to see two women together?"
B - "Naw, I'll watch a man and a woman makin' love."
RW - "Do you like the man to have a small, half-flacid penis?"
B - "Nah, I like em with a big, hard, throbbing cock....
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:40 AM
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11. Thus proving once and for all that gay/straight is in a person's genes,
not their choices.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 11:45 AM
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13. Oh' Jesus on a side car! Not a-fucking-gain!
Edited on Tue May-11-10 11:49 AM by Touchdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8298327

Just two days ago, the "official" thread was shot down. Quit blaming the victims. Homophobia is not the fault of the gays!:eyes:

Why do you str8s trot this shit out once a month, or every 2 days? Trying to absolve your responsibility in creating an environment where they have to be church going, closet case assholes?

If you believe this is conclusive, then you also believe KKK members secretly long to be black, and Tom Tancredo wants to cross the border and pick lettuce for $5 a day.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 04:40 PM
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17. They never tire of this one. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:14 PM
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19. IT'S OFFICIAL!
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 08:56 AM
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23. So predictable.
:thumbsup:
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 07:57 PM
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20. This is fake "science."
They use a gadget called the penile plethysmograph.

It's as unreliable as the polygraph for detecting lies.

http://www.skepdic.com/penilep.html
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:23 PM
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21. thank you
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