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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:03 AM
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Rahm "begged" Obama for days not to pursue ambitious health reform
Book: Rahm "begged" Obama for days not to pursue ambitious health reform

Rahm Emanuel spent nearly a week in the summer of 2009 aggressively trying to talk Obama out of moving foward with an ambitious version of health care reform, and by his own admission "begged" him not to do it, a book out next week reports.

The book, Jonathan Alter's The Promise, goes much further than previous accounts in documenting just how opposed Rahm was to proceeding with ambitious reform -- something that was widely suspected at the time but never proven in detail. I obtained excerpts of the book in advance of its release next Tuesday.

"I begged him not to do this," Rahm admits to Alter. But according to the book, Obama overrode Rahm's advice, privately taking a bit of shot at Clinton by telling advisers that he hadn't been sent to the White House to do "school uniforms."

After Obama had made his decision, Rahm threw himself into getting the President's plan passed and worked almost nonstop on it, the book reports. It also goes into more detail than previously known about the dramatically scaled down health reform plan Rahm urged Obama to pursue instead -- something advisers derisively called "the Titanic plan" because it insured women and children first.

more:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2010/05/book_rahm_spent_week_aggressiv.html
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:07 AM
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1. Guess Rahm can't dictate
everything to the Prez. OTOH, bush would have deferred to Cheney or Rove.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:07 AM
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2. Obama must have listened
Hense the toothless legislation that ended up passing
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:08 AM
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4. Yep
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:09 AM
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7. Rahm is Obama's brain it seems. Like Rove.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:13 AM
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13. +1
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:18 AM
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19. Rahm is like Rove in more ways than I care to imagine
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:23 AM
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21. do you realize how absurd that sounds?
first of all, this article certainly doesn't endorse that view. Secondly, bush truly wasn't an intelligent or thoughtful person. I think it's pretty clear that Obama is the one in charge. Certainly doesn't mean he's always right, but no, the evidence is that Rahm is NOT Obama's brain.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:26 AM
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22. He isn't, but he sure wants to be.
fucking republican reptile lizard brain.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:42 PM
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40. He's not the brain, but he's chief of staff
because they are kindred spirits.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:27 AM
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24. Good thing he's not the conscience.
In the years to come, I think we'll come to learn that what the private, restricted benefits HCR we got is actually pretty close to the one that Obama and Rahm (and his brother) actually wanted.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:35 PM
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39. I really wish people would stop referring to this insurance scam as HCR
All it does is perpetuate the for profit companies by either forcing us to buy their shoddy products or by handing them tax dollars for "premium subsidies". Nothing in this bill does anything to guarantee us the kind of access to health care that people in civilized countries have.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:06 PM
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49. Insurance scam it is.
America isn't a particularly civilized or advanced country. We're not even very rich anymore - just lots of debt that needs bundling. No argument on that. Shrug.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:16 AM
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17. Obama swallowed the Rahm-per Room's tea party koolaid!
Edited on Fri May-14-10 10:17 AM by cascadiance
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:08 AM
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30. LOL.. good pics....
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:31 PM
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38. That was my first thought
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:54 PM
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46. Agreed. n/t
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:07 AM
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3. Raaaaaaaaaahm
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:08 AM
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5. LOL
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:47 PM
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42. LOL
:rofl:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:09 AM
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6. Rahm is risk aversive. If you are not even going to try, why bother?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:09 AM
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8. Looks like Rahm got what he wanted. n/t
Edited on Fri May-14-10 10:12 AM by QC
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:26 AM
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23. No.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:10 AM
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9. Well, at least Rahm managed to neuter the ambitious parts of HCR.
I admit that I really wanted them to start at a Single Payer plan and compromise from there if they had to. I thought that we'd get a Public Option at the very least.



Maybe next term..........?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:28 AM
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Fraid not - not for another generation. What we see is what we got. nt
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:51 PM
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44. You and Lib2DaBone are probably both right.
I'd like to be able to say that you're both wrong, but the circumstances are what they are.

On the bright side,............errrrrr I'll get back to you if I think of anything.

Me scratching my head...........


I know, the "reform" has a few worthwhile items in it. I'll just always wonder what could have been had Pres. Obama and the rest of the (D) leaders taken a firm stand from day one. Instead, it was capitulation from day one.

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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:13 AM
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31. After turning my all-knowing Magic 8-ball in many directions.. it says....

Obama is a one term President
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:50 PM
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33. I think your Magic 8-ball is broken.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:10 AM
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10. I'm sure he did. He's Rahm. Never met a truly liberal policy he liked.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:12 AM
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11. That's why I don't get the negative focus on Rahm. Pres Obama makes the decisions.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:12 AM
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12. Rahm won.
What else is new? :shrug:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:27 AM
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25. No.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:23 AM
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32. Victory for Rahm.
It's pretty simple. Corporations got everything they wanted, and we will still have tens of thousands who will die as a result of not having affordable health insurance.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:14 AM
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14. Rahm can go "Blank" himself!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:28 AM
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26. Fuck.
I think that's the word you're looking for.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:36 PM
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52. lol
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:14 AM
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15. What we got has Rahm's
fingerprints all over it. A corporate giveaway is Rahm's MO.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:01 AM
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29. +1
Each day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.

We need single-payer health care, not welfare for serial-killer insurance companies.


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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:14 AM
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16. So this is saying that Obama's Ambitious "Health Reform" passed?
What a load of bullshit.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:16 AM
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18. You mean to say the Corporate Giveaway and Massive Increase of Corporate Power was the LIBERAL
"no Rahm" version of the bill?

:rofl:
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:22 AM
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20. The individual that made the decisions, good or bad, was/is Obama.
I understand if people do not appreciate Emanuel, but the idea that he is Obama's brain is nonsense.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:32 AM
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27. As usual, Rahm (just mentioning his name) seems to make people irrational except for the President
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:01 PM
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36. Funny how becoming a multi-millionaire by stealing from the working poor
Edited on Fri May-14-10 01:02 PM by Greyhound
and making your political bones by selling your constituents out to the highest bidder, tend to make people a little critical of your motivations.

Just like all his Investment buddies, if he died today, the world would be a better place tomorrow.


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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:37 AM
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28. I don't give Rahm that much power.
The decision to appease Republicans and Corporations with phony HCR came from the top.
Rahm is only a loyal lieutenant.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans."---Paul Wellstone


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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:52 PM
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34. All ears
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:54 PM
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35. Clearly, Rahm got his way..
Ambitious health care reform certainly didn't get very close to the tabletop.

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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:23 PM
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37. Where's all the people who promised we'd FIX the flawed bill?
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:46 PM
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41. What's the difference between new democrats and the dlc?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:50 PM
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43. The New Democrats haven't lost as many elections?
To cross the road?

They all did?

I give up. :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:53 PM
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45. What a crock of bullshit. Rahm & Obama got exactly the bill they wanted.
Edited on Fri May-14-10 01:54 PM by Bluebear
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:06 PM
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50. It's funny when facts completely disprove and contradict the reality you wish we lived in.
That's the sound of cognitive dissonance.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 03:09 PM
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51. 'cognitive dissonance' - fancy schmancy for an assholish post. /ignore
Edited on Fri May-14-10 03:12 PM by Bluebear
Be sure to toss in "intellectually dishonest" for your next victim.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 02:05 PM
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47. It's a pity Rahm didn't read the 2008 Democratic Party platform:
...or perhaps he did, and thought it was "f*cking retarded." :eyes:

Covering All Americans and Providing Real Choices of Affordable Health Insurance Options.

Families and individuals should have the option of keeping the coverage they have or choosing from a wide array of health insurance plans, including many private health insurance options and a public plan. Coverage should be made affordable for all Americans with subsidies provided through tax credits and other means.

-- http://www.democrats.org/a/party/platform.html
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 02:06 PM
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48. That CANNOT BE! Everybody knows Rahm controls Barack's every move!
:sarcasm:
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