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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:11 AM
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I ran across this tonite...
Edited on Sat May-15-10 05:17 AM by PJPhreak
I was trying to find out how much goo was coming out of the BP Oil Disaster so I went over to a web forum that is populated by Oil Co Engineers,Roughnecks,Drill Ops ect. and in the middle of a VERY long thread came across this...

With appropriate caveats:

This is the "Oilfield Trash (Oilfield/Drilling Rig Workers) Scuttlebutt,but this is the Story circulating in New Orleans:




" BP contracted Schlumberger (SLB) to run the Cement Bond Log (CBL) test that was the final test on the plug that was skipped. The people testifying have been very coy about mentioning this, and you'll see why.

SLB is an extremely highly regarded (and incredibly expensive) service company. They place a high standard on safety and train their workers to shut down unsafe operations.

SLB gets out to the Deepwater Horizon to run the CBL, and they find the well still
kicking heavily, which it should not be that late in the operation. SLB orders the"company man" (BP's man on the scene that runs the operation) to dump kill fluid down the well and shut-in the well. The company man refuses. SLB in the very next sentence asks for a helo to take all SLB personel back to shore. The company man says there are no more helo's scheduled for the rest of the week (translation: you're here to do a job, now do it). SLB gets on the horn to shore, calls SLB's corporate HQ, and gets a helo flown out there at SLB's expense and takes all SLB personel to shore.

6 hours later, the platform explodes.

Pick your jaw up off the floor now. No CBL was run after the pressure tests because the
contractor high-tailed it out of there. If this story is true, the company man (who
survived) should go to jail for 11 counts of negligent homicide."

It does seem that news of a Schlumberger evacuation of their personnel would have leaked before now, but on the other hand it seems bizarre that someone would put together and circulate a false story like this.

"In any case, as you said, if it is more or less true the stuff is really going to hit the fan.

I emailed a reporter I know who is covering the oil spill story and I asked him he knows anything that would confirm or refute the Schlumberger evacuation story.

Update: The reporter I contacted said he is definitely going to investigate (this was the first time he had heard rumors of a pre-explosion Schlumberger evacuation).

Given the PR lies, lack of effort, and lack of transparency by BP (all known) I chose not to hide this story.

And one cannot defame BP. Their reputation is now worthless.



Allrite you DU news hounds and those with connections to the MSM...Is there some way to verify this? If this is true....


Edit to add:If you want to read the thread that this came from,here it is.

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6464

Warning this thread has almost 500 posts,some of them are HIGHLY TECHNICAL, and it took me four hours to read the whole thread.

Very informative from those who do this shit for a living

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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:14 AM
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1. Great work PJ
this could be a BFD.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:20 AM
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2. If that story is true it is a blockbuster.
And it shows that SLB was concerned enough about their people to evacuate them.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:23 AM
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3. Thats what crossed my mind...
Edited on Sat May-15-10 06:24 AM by PJPhreak
as I picked my jaw up off the floor!

This REALLY needs to be verified.

If its True...Bp is here...

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:20 AM
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17. what a great picture
I always thought that there was a real place like shit creek.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 05:58 PM
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120. If there wasn't
there is now :rofl:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:26 AM
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4. kick
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:28 AM
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5. Good work! This should be forwarded to Keith Olbermann and Rachel!
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:35 AM
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6. Anyone know a website to lookup historical flight plans?
We might be able to at least verify the helicopter flight on that day.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:56 AM
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14. Here's the NY Times mention of execs coptered in.
<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/08/us/08rig.html>

NEW ORLEANS — Nearly 50 miles offshore at the big oil rig floating on a glassy-calm sea, a helicopter landed early on the morning of April 20, carrying four executives from BP, the oil company. The men were visiting the Deepwater Horizon to help honor the crew for its standout safety record.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:35 AM
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7. Please Keep this Visable for the Morning Crew,
I've been up ALL nite,Reading this. My Brain hurts.

In light of BP's recent behavior...

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:39 AM
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8. kick
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:42 AM
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9. K&R for morning crowd. Great find! n/t
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:42 AM
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10. Breaking news
DU poster up for pulitzer prize in at least 3 categories.
:yourock:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:46 AM
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12. If true.
But even if it isn't, maybe it will knock some of the truth onto the pavement.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:45 AM
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11. That's some heavy gossip.
Had already read that a bunch of execs had helicoptered off the rig earlier.

Someone in the thread asked if the fleeing execs shouldn't have mentioned it to the Coast Guard? Seems reasonable to me. IF THE STORY IS TRUE.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:54 AM
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13. Thats why this NEEDS to be verified!
"IF" this is true...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:59 AM
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15. It doesn't square much with the NYT story.
<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/08/us/08rig.html>

So I'd be real pleased to find out if Schlumberger was there at all.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:07 AM
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16. Agreed...but,
That NYT Story was published on may 7th,8 days ago...and I would wager EVERYBODY on that rig is under a gag order,either from BP or the authorities investigating this.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:55 PM
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76. send them the info
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:41 AM
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18. If this is true, it is a BFD.... just wow....
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:44 AM
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19. found a little blurb with a mention of one Schlumberger's M-I Swaco JV being missing
Macondo blowout

The Macondo well - a discovery well which was to be temporarily abandoned ahead of later completion as a subsea producer - blew out on 20 April.

The well had been drilled to 18,000 feet by the Transocean semi-submersible Deepwater Horizon. An explosion rocked the semisub before the rig was engulfed in flames.

The rig sank on 22 April, extinguishing the blaze.

The initial cause of the accident is still unknown, although a senior Transocean executive, Adrian Rose, earlier indicated it seems likely the well blew out.

Eleven of the 126 crew on board the Deepwater Horizon at the time of the explosion are missing, presumed dead.

Drilling giant Transocean has confirmed nine of its employees are among the missing. Two worked for services outfit Smith International and Schlumberger's M-I Swaco joint venture.

BP has a 65% stake in Mississippi Canyon Block 252. Anadarko has 25% and Japanese player Mitsui the remaining 10%. All are liable for costs on a proportionate basis.

http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article215109.ece?WT.mc_id=rechargenews_rss
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:48 AM
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20. and another link: Gordon Jones specialist from M-I Swaco

THE MUD MAN

Gordon Jones, 28, was a mud man on the Deepwater Horizon. A graduate of Louisiana State University, he was one of two specialists from M-I Swaco aboard the rig to advise BP about ``mud.''

Despite its indecorous name, drilling mud is a complex concoction of clay, minerals and other additives that keeps the drill lubricated and carries shavings back up to the rig. Its recipe depends on what kinds of surfaces the drill bit is chewing; one blend even uses diesel oil.

It's pricey, too. A bore such as the one the Deepwater Horizon had drilled would run up a mud bill of $10 million or more.

Mud is also the main line of defense against blowouts. It plugs the pipe and resists the massive pressure of gas and oil.

Though he wasn't scheduled to start his 12-hour shift until midnight, Jones went to the mud room about 9 p.m., told his M-I Swaco counterpart that he looked tired and offered to take over. His offer was accepted gratefully.



Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/14/1630404/in-rigs-final-hours-the-luck-ran.html#ixzz0o0AfQDYA
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:10 AM
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27. So it's sounds like at least one of the missing people worked for Schlumberger.
That would seem to argue against the claim that all Schlumberger personnel were evacuated. Of course, in all the confusion someone who had been evacuated might initially be listed as missing.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:38 PM
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43. Subsidiary. They discuss it in The Oil Drum thread.
And I go along with the Rockman who says it's either wholly true or wholly false. No reason for SLB to keep their presence secret.

But I want to hear them say it didn't happen. Anyhow, there is at least one reporter digging into it.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:21 PM
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71. 115 men from the Deepwater Horizon escaped. Have we heard their stories?
Probably not. That's important evidence if there is a possibility of a civil or criminal trial.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:59 PM
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79. I'm sure the Washington Post will be interested
give them a call
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:08 AM
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21. This could be very important. Thank you for posting.
Kick for more eyes.

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:18 AM
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22. K&R
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:21 AM
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23. Thanks, kick, and rec'd. I hope Greg Palast gets to read this.
Edited on Sat May-15-10 08:36 AM by babylonsister
He'd be relentless.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:26 AM
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30. Are you kidding? Palast rarely does his own unique research. Most of what he writes
is taken from what others find.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:06 PM
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53. Could you give a few examples? Thanks.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:49 PM
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81. hows about some examples?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:08 AM
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94. That's bullshit. Prove that statement
Palast has been arrested many times in the course of investigating stories no one else in OUR media dared to investigate.

You don't get to smear someone like Palast like this without proof. Homeland Security didn't think he was 'using other people's work' when they arrested HIM, not those 'other people' as he tried to find out what they were hiding after they rounded up all the refugees from NOLA into what amounted to internment camps.

There is a concerted effort to discredit the work of the few investigative journalists we have left, but usually it comes from the right, or from the rightwing of the Democratic Party.

I will check back for the links to the 'work of others' Palast has passed off as his own.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:22 AM
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24. I'll bet the BP manager is already in Bahrain
or some other shithole where we can't extradite him.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:22 AM
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25. The guy who runs The Oil Drum posts on DU occasionally
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:42 PM
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64. Thanks for the link!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:34 AM
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99. Good to know that. TY for the link.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:25 AM
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26. Kicked and Recommended!!!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:19 AM
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28. I can't think of any better place for this than the top of GD.
K&R.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:21 AM
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29. K&R
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:37 PM
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31. Needs kick... Any more info as to story's validity yet? n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:48 PM
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32. K&R. Excellent stuff!!
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:53 PM
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33. K&R...n/t
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ocd liberal Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:56 PM
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34. All jaws collectively dropped in this house!
I'm not too surprised, though. Great reporting - thanks!
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:34 PM
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42. still dropped DAMN! nt
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:11 PM
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35. what a drag, to come up against asswholes who will kill you and your crew too to make a buck.
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Prof Lester Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:17 PM
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68. You mean the 4,000 Assholes who are collectively known as..
The Elite.. the ruling class.. the Corporatists.. the Shadow Government.. the Illuminati.. the Top of the Pyramid.. the Eye.. the Octopus.. THEM..
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:29 PM
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36. wow, YOU! goood Work!
thank YOU for this.
"Truth will out".
:(
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:35 PM
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37. kick
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:43 PM
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38. And here we go...
knr
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:45 PM
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39. aren't these new platforms built to run multiple wellheads/pipelines in all directions

I have seen ads claiming the newer platforms are so much 'better' for the environment because one platform has many wells leading off in all directions.

If this is true, who knows how many potential leaking pipelines there are down there - my guess is this isn't a single spout. BP probably doesn't want to have the Federal government outlaw multiple pipe platforms if this is the case because it would kill all their plans for easier money from less square footage.

___

from link:
http://www.propliers.com/company/137/2111

'The Side by Side wellhead allows installation of multiple wells inside a single conductor – increasing production by up to three times that of a traditional platform in both new and existing developments. Side by Side allows you to drill two or three wells with a minimal number of slots; reducing the cost, size, and total number of platforms needed. And with today’s rig rates, minimizing your operating expenses can increase your profitability. You can maximize well slot use on existing platforms because Side by Side wellheads enhance batch drilling and completion with reduced rig move time.'

there's that key phrase 'increase your profitability'



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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:29 PM
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40. Epic win. K/R
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:29 PM
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41. Nothing in Google news about Schlumberger that is related to the oil spill yet.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:18 PM
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69. The name of the joint venture in which Schlumberger was allegedly involved
Edited on Sat May-15-10 06:22 PM by JDPriestly
is named repeatedly. Read the articles. I think it was Swaco-I or something like that.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:42 PM
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44. Thanks Ya'll,
It was 5 am before I finished reading that thread.

Besides bieng trashed from bieng up all nite I was stunned to find out this tidbit. and because it was a post on a message board the first thought was "Is this really true?"

So I cross posted the posts that shocked me to see if someone here could help me find that out.

I hate BP for this.

I really hope someone can find the truth in all this mess.

Thanks,Phil
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:45 PM
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45. From this little, I don't get SLB culpability, only more for BP. Site workers for big
companies cannot be expected to warn the authorities directly about a theoretical problem without consultation with their own people. By removing their staff so precipitously from what they perceived to be imminent danger, they would be making a huge statement to BP management. BP management appears to have made the decision to go forward with a gravely risky operation despite expert warning to the contrary.

This is damn little info, but that's how I read it so far.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:18 PM
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47. I am not suggesting that SLB has any culpability in this,
Edited on Sat May-15-10 03:19 PM by PJPhreak
But "If" I was the Lead Forman of the SLB Crew and the Rig was "Kickin an Fussin" as it is implied in this,and "IF" I had the authorty to abort any work that "MY" Crew was doing and to clear the rig because it was not a safe enviroment then "I' would have done EXACTLY the same.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:13 PM
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55. Absolutely. Some later posters sounded like SLB should be added to the list of corporate
bad actors in this, and I just wanted to put this out in the discussion.
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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:51 PM
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46. K&R
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:22 PM
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48. This thread MUST be kicked & rec'd through to the work week. .
and to the desks of the cube rats...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:28 PM
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49. Sounds like BP followed Republicon Family Values
leading as always to massive fail
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:43 PM
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50. Kicking for exposure
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:53 PM
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51. WOW! Just WOW!
Amazing...and they were having a safety day party as well!? The bullshit is starting to pile up and I think someone is about to get covered in an 'avalanche of lies'(tm)!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:03 PM
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52. nothing would surprise me with BushCo family values & self-enforcement ruling the industry
These people should be charged with their crimes. End of story.

Just wait til the oil reaches the shore. The sleeping sheeple aren't even watching this story til then.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:08 PM
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54. There was a story in LBN this am about a disagreement about 6 hours
Edited on Sat May-15-10 04:09 PM by EFerrari
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:59 PM
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78. interesting - good catch
It will be very interesting to see this unfold.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:18 PM
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56. knr
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:25 PM
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57. Not so bizarre if story was fabricated and spread on the Internet.
The liability involved is obviously astronomical. But it shouldn't be too difficult to prove or disprove by interviewing SLB personnel, phone records, etc.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:33 PM
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58. That is what I was hoping to find out,
Edited on Sat May-15-10 04:34 PM by PJPhreak
If this is just "Scuttlebutt and Rumor" and turns out to be false,so be it.

If this turns out to be true...

Like Everyone, All I want is the truth.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:32 PM
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73. I suspect that SLB personnel will be bound by a confidentiality clause
in their contract with BP.

I wonder if these are the seeds of the next conspiracy theory. Events will probably never be proven in the public arena. So we will be left to decide for ourselves ...

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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:38 PM
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59. K&R n/t
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:10 PM
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60. K&R
nt
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:33 PM
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61. kick nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:40 PM
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62. K&R...THIS NEEDS TO BE READ!! and distributed!!
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:41 PM
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63. My deceased brother was a Schlumberger executive.
He would have known the inside scoop.

I haven't thought about Schlumberger in years. I do know they are a good company ... no shortcuts for them.

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:44 PM
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65. Kickin this (It needs a better subject line, something HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!)
something along those lines..
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:53 PM
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66. K&R
To keep this on top.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:55 PM
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67. K and R. Important news. We need to spread the word.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:20 PM
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70. Well done.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:28 PM
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72. Hmm. . . Funny, I don't recall reading about this in the MSM
Hey, maybe I missed this in the MSM reporting. Or maybe, just maybe, and I know you'll find this shocking (I know I do) that the MSM is not doing its job.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:43 PM
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74. Kicking
This needs to be investigated. The more eyes that see it, the better.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:46 PM
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75. Here's another kick
Hope this gets investigated and either proved or debunked.

Schlumberger is a company with standards. I can believe the account.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:10 PM
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80. "Schlumberger is a company with standards"
If one were to ask me,It sounds like Schlumberger is holding to their standards...Again "IF" they bailed on what they perceived as a Burpin,Belchin,Kickin,Well then they did so to keep their asses outta a real mess that was caused by someone else(BP).

As I said upthread...If it were me callin the shots for the SLB Crew,with the rig kickin as hard as they say,I would have done EXACTLY the same! My FIRST Priority would be for the safety of all My Crew.

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:57 PM
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77. everyone send this info to ALL the MSM - call their newsrooms
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:15 PM
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82. K & R
good info
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:21 PM
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83. Rec
This is huge
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:57 PM
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84. Kick it to the top & don't stop.
Kick it to the top & don't stop.
Swimin in the oil since 4:20
environmental damage we got plenty
BP exec's, they all are greedy
taken food from our children,
no care for the needy.
Kick it to the top & don't stop.
Kick it to the top & don't stop.

Recomended yo
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:30 PM
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85. Thanks for the post, PJPhreak. Rec. nt
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:42 PM
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86. K&R....n/t
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:47 PM
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89. K & R and proud to help the cause n/t
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:01 PM
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87. Wonder if some of those class action attornies want to investigate this?
Anyone know of any lawyers who are working the lawsuits?

K&RRRRRRRR
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:12 PM
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88. Thank all of Ya'll,
Gee all I did was try to find out how much goo was going into the GoM when I stumbled across this...Wow!


I would so much LOVE to boil BP Executives in that shit floting aroung the Gulf!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:51 PM
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90. k
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:58 PM
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91. Licht! Mehr licht!
Great sleuthing, PJPhreak!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:59 PM
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92. Congress must know . . . could they have missed something as important as this???!!!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:28 AM
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98. Forward this post to your congresscritters. They are NOT techies, and chances are the vast majority
... have no more clue about this than we did.

Hekate

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:00 PM
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114. Been contacting them and Obama to get him to take over this well . . .
and seize assets of BP and Halliburton --

If I think of it again later, I'll pick up this info -- but it's information for

later -- focus now has to be on closing this well.

IMO, it is world threatening --

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GrannyK Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:37 PM
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93. K & R
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:14 AM
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95. .
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 01:09 AM
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103. K&R
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:22 AM
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96. If you don't mind I'd like to forward tis
to Der Spiegel, a highly regarded news magazine here in Germany.

While this horrible disaster is in the news here, it definitely wouldn't hurt to get more exposure. It is something that affects us all!
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:43 AM
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100. feel free. nt
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tango-tee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 02:19 AM
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104. Done.
Forwarded to Der Spiegel. Let's see what they do with it. They're highly regarded in Europe, and have an excellent research team.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:25 AM
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97. Kicking straight on till morning. Jaw hitting floor here. Please send to Keith and Rachel.
:wow: :kick: :wow: :kick: :wow: :kick: :wow: :kick:

Thank you SO much for your post and for reading on that other site for 4 ever-lovin' hours. People like you, who do the research, are the reason I came to DU so long ago. :hug:

Hekate

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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:56 AM
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102. No,thank you,
All the different numbers that every news source is tossing arond had me going nuts by the end of the week,So I thought "If someone wanted to know how to cook something they could ask me,(As I worked in restaurant kitchens for years) so who better to ask than those who drill stupidly deep holes in the ground for a living.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 12:53 AM
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101. K&R
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 03:00 AM
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105. k & r. nt
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 03:02 AM
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106. K&R. Holy gobbledy-goo, Batman! nt
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 07:02 AM
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107. Sunday morning kick.
Edited on Sun May-16-10 07:03 AM by stlsaxman
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 07:06 AM
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108. do Helicopters need to file flight plans?
if so, is there a record of that flight?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:28 AM
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112. There must be a record of that flight somewhere.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #108
116. No. Most helicopter flights are VFR and it's not required.
VFR= Visual Flight Rules as opposed to IFR- Instrument Flight Rules.

There are a great deal of helicopters flying to oil rigs, last year one estimate was there was 1400 of them. There are several large companies that provide the service; PHI (Petroleum Helicopters Incorporated), Air Logistics, Era Helicopters, RLC (Rotorcraft Leasing Corp.) and there are others.

Finding this particular flight might be like looking for the proverbial needle in the pin factory. Unless someone comes forward (like the pilot), which I think is highly unlikely given how people are these days about confidentiality with clients, it may not be possible to find.



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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:45 AM
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109. late Sunday morning kick
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:11 AM
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110. I'll add my kick.
This could be very important.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:17 AM
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113. Sunday brunch kick
It's important. Keep 'er kicked
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:24 AM
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111. Send it to Rachel...
She's got the resources and the $ to find out if it's true.

One has to wonder whether the company man was acting on his own or if his negligence could be traced to someone (or more than one) higher up in the company.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 02:00 PM
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115. Midafternoon Sunday kick. . .n/t
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 02:45 PM
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117. K&R
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 03:21 PM
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118. K&R
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 03:47 PM
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119. KnR.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 06:10 PM
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121. Kickin it til Monday
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 08:44 PM
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122. Kick to get it through the night
:kick:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:37 PM
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123. needs another nudge
Hi Hekate :hi:

See ya in the morning
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 12:19 AM
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124. Here's a very late night kick from the Eastern Daylught Savings Time Zone
Edited on Mon May-17-10 12:21 AM by Bozita
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 12:35 AM
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125. BP is toast nt
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 12:49 AM
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126. K&R
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 01:18 AM
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127. Hi folks!
After watching tonites "60 Min" this story has a bit more "Street Cred" if you will.

Wow...Thas all this hippie is gonna say...jus,Wow

Thanks ya'll fer keepin this alive.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 03:53 AM
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128. wotthehell, I'm still up. Kick. And I hope BP and their cronies get their asses kicked.
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 05:14 AM
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129. Kick for the morning crowd
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 05:19 AM
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130. Looks like the 60 minutes story corroborates this account, Transocean wanted "kill fluid" also BP...
Edited on Mon May-17-10 05:21 AM by uponit7771
...guy on the scene said no
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:09 AM
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131. Well then, maybe M$M will get some spine and give this legs
they might if WE keep emailing and asking them about it.

If the people lead, the leaders {and media} follow <-- have seen the original quote credited to so many different people I don't know who to pin it on, but we need to remember it with the addition of the media, and keep after them until they know they have to jump on the bandwagon for truth.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:12 AM
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132. Now Monday morning. Hello? Any investigative journalists out there?
Time to go to work...
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:03 AM
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133. Yep
Get hold of more of those survivors and get to digging.

One wonders about that story of the survivors being kept on ships until they signed waivers. Gee. If someone refused to sign, would they have been tossed over the side and then just added to the list of missing/presumed killed in initial explosion?
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:31 AM
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134. just a quick kick for any new eyes. nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 01:46 PM
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135. Kick
:kick:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:08 PM
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136. Kick. Rachel and Keith are doing a great job keeping up with the oil-volcano news.
I haven't been following how the other news hours are doing -- anyone else?

Hekate

:kick:
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 12:10 AM
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137. still kickin'..thanks,PJPhreak!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:33 AM
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138. Oooooo, it's getting legs! Story on this today in LBN
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4389933

Good work, PJPhreak! This is getting some coverage.... FINALLY
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 08:59 AM
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139. Here's a piece saying that BP never ordered Schlumberger to do the Cement Bond Log test
Edited on Thu May-20-10 09:12 AM by Emit
Costly, time-consuming test of cement linings in Deepwater Horizon rig was omitted, spokesman says

BP hired a top oilfield service company to test the strength of cement linings on the Deepwater Horizon's well, but sent the firm's workers home 11 hours before the rig exploded April 20 without performing a final check that a top cementing company executive called "the only test that can really determine the actual effectiveness" of the well's seal.

A spokesman for the testing firm, Schlumberger, said BP had a Schlumberger team and equipment for sending acoustic testing lines down the well "on standby" from April 18 to April 20. But BP never asked the Schlumberger crew to perform the acoustic test and sent its members back to Louisiana on a regularly scheduled helicopter flight at 11 a.m., Schlumberger spokesman Stephen T. Harris said.

At a few minutes before 10 p.m., a belch of natural gas shot out of the well, up a riser pipe to the rig above, igniting massive explosions, killing 11 crewmembers and sending millions of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf. The rig's owner, Transocean, blames failed cement seals, installed by Halliburton, for the disastrous blowout.


~snip~

First, he went into detail in two committee hearings May 11 about the tests that were done to check his company's cement job -- called positive and negative pressure tests -- and a third test that BP never asked for. That test is called a "cement bond log," which records data collected from wires run down the well to measure sounds that indicate whether there are any weaknesses or spaces in the cement.

Probert told a Senate committee last week that the cement bond log is "the only test that can really determine the actual effectiveness of the bond between the cement sheets, the formation and the casing itself."

~snip~

Schlumberger's Harris said the contractor was ready to do any such wireline tests, but was never directed to do so. The team had finished doing tests on the subsea layers of earth being drilled five days earlier and hadn't done any work since, Harris said.

In fact, Harris said there was no time to get the company's wireline testing equipment off the rig before it exploded.

~snip~
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/costly_time-consuming_test_of.html

Edited to add that they are discussing this article (SLB leaving 6 hours before the explosion for fear of their safety), Schlumberger's statement that their crew left on one of BP's regularly scheduled helicopter flights, etc. in relation to the piece in the OP at The Oil Drum: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6489
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 09:39 AM
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140. Kicking for exposure
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:00 AM
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141. kick until this is talked about at every water cooler in the US
:kick:
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profgoose Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:33 AM
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142. k/r for more eyes...
wow.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 10:44 PM
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143. Costly, time-consuming test of cement linings in Deepwater Horizon rig was omitted, spokesman says
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/05/costly_time-consuming_test_of.html

BP hired a top oilfield service company to test the strength of cement linings on the Deepwater Horizon's well, but sent the firm's workers home 11 hours before the rig exploded April 20 without performing a final check that a top cementing company executive called "the only test that can really determine the actual effectiveness" of the well's seal.

A spokesman for the testing firm, Schlumberger, said BP had a Schlumberger team and equipment for sending acoustic testing lines down the well "on standby" from April 18 to April 20. But BP never asked the Schlumberger crew to perform the acoustic test and sent its members back to Louisiana on a regularly scheduled helicopter flight at 11 a.m., Schlumberger spokesman Stephen T. Harris said.

At a few minutes before 10 p.m., a belch of natural gas shot out of the well, up a riser pipe to the rig above, igniting massive explosions, killing 11 crewmembers and sending millions of gallons of crude oil into the Gulf. The rig's owner, Transocean, blames failed cement seals, installed by Halliburton, for the disastrous blowout.


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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:28 PM
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145. Good catch!
BP & Halliburton are both dirty birds of a feather. They should be condemned to the dustbin of history.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:26 AM
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144. kick& R'd allredy
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