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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:52 AM
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The BP oil leak should illuminate a much deeper problem of this environmental catastrophe...
one that should be illustrated in this: BP and many other oil companies are getting desperate to find new oil sources, sources that are getting harder to find, harder to extract, and harder to refine.

While this oil spill is a horrible it is only a part of an increasing problem that has been increasingly recognized worldwide as perhaps the worse crisis of our time, the end of cheap oil and cheap energy.

Recently, the United States Military released a report stating that the world will face severe oil shortages, of as much as 10 million barrels a day, by 2015.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/11/peak-oil-production-supply

I haven't seen this mentioned on DU, but the report is saying that world production peak is either imminent, or already happened, and that a gap between demand and supply will be created by 2012, with increasing shortages occurring after this point.

70% of all oil consumed in the world today come from oil fields that were discovered before 1970, fields that today are either already peaked, in over 50 countries, or are about to peak in oil production. This field in the Gulf of Mexico that's leaking now is estimated to be big, by today's standards, but its literally a drop in the bucket in size compared to the fields discovered previous to 1970, by factors of a 100 or more.

So what does this mean for us? Well, our politicians, including Obama, are silent on this issue for a very simple reason, there's no upside. We have 5 years, max, to prepare for this crisis, and frankly that's not enough time. Obama and others tout energy independence in the country that consumes 25% of all oil produced in the world, daily. However, they don't mention the most obvious solution that is needed to alleviate our dependence on oil, conservation and economic contraction.

Alternative energy production could help cushion the blow, to a certain extent, by helping wean us off of fossil fuels for electricity production, but when it comes to portable fuel, we have absolutely NO alternatives to cheap oil and the liquid fuels derived from it. Not to mention we don't have suitable alternatives to agriculture that isn't dependent on the chemicals and fuels derived from both oil and natural gas.

The oil shortage is a problem of scale, we rely on a single source of energy for most of our economic activity, for production of food, plastics, fuel, heating our homes, creating medicine and many other things, and for transporting all of them to our stores. What will life be like in 10 years after this crisis hits?

Well, increased unemployment, food prices will spike, as will gas prices, more banks will go under, economic activity on all levels will decrease, this will either be a depression or, more likely, at least at first, a permanent or prolonged recession. I think I forgot to mention the famine and starvation in even western nations, remember we rely on oil to produce our food, the Green Revolution relies on industry powered by oil. Less oil means less food.

Honestly, I don't exactly know what we can do to prevent this catastrophe from happening, increasing oil exploration off the coasts isn't a solution, there's not enough oil there to make a difference, and it will take decades to develop properly. The same for all possible solutions, we simply don't have the time to implement them before the crisis takes place.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:16 AM
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1. Well the answer is simple, fundamental change.
The thing that scares us the most.
We don't need cars and we don't need to go back to the horse and buggy...we need to go into the future and build a transportation system the is better than the one we have now.
but the answer to that suggestion for a change will get the response of "You want me to give up my car?....I have wrapped up my identity in my car"
So the change must be fundamentally in our hears and minds and then followed by action.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:36 AM
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2. As long as they got all the money they will do it their way

because it makes them more money.

Expropriate without compensation.

k&r
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:05 AM
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3. You haven't seen this report mentioned on DU, or Peak Oil in general?
The Peak Oil topic has been brought up frequently on the General Discussion board and very frequently in the Energy/Environment forum.

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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:23 AM
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5. I usually stay in the big forums, and I've seen peak oil mentioned, just not the...
specific report I linked to.
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divination Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:10 AM
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4. UFO sighting above the Deepwater Oil Disaster Location
Tuesday the 18th of May 2010

Local Time : 07 hours 11 minutes AM

Duration : 20 minutes

Info obtained with a rock crystal pendulum and a dictionary

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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:39 AM
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6. The US uses about twice the energy per capita of most other developed countries
The US energy consumption was over 10,000 watts per person averaged over a year.

Most other developed countries consume 5000 to 6000 watts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_energy_consumption_per_capita
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:12 AM
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8. And the Pentagon uses 40% of the petroleum

Seems obvious to me
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:42 AM
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14. +1000
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:56 PM
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17. +10,000
It's a no brainer but that military machine is propping up capitalism. It's kind of hard to exploit other countries and other people if you don't have a military to bludgeon them into submission.
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divination Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:08 AM
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7. prediction, latest update : UFO sighting above Deepwater
On tuesday the 18th of May 2010

07 hours 11 minutes local time

Duration ; 20 minutes

Total of objects : 3

Info obtained with pendulum and dictionary



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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:34 AM
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9. Peak Oil is continually discussed here:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:35 AM
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10. President Carter tried to do something about it.
Big Oil and its minions did something about President Carter.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:59 AM
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11. yep
n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:48 PM
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16. +1
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:39 AM
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13. Carter initiated a lot of programs to make he country more independent...
...but Reagan scrapped all of them. Reagan sold out the future of the US to be a prostitute to industry, his pimps. Just imagine if Carter's initiatives would have been allowed to go forward and our resources would have been used for clean energy sources instead of needless wars and massive amounts of corporate corruption like the savings & loan scandal under Reagan and the Wall Street Scandal under GW Bush?

If Carter's initiatives have been allowed to go forward we would have been 30 years ahead, instead of 30 years behind... While both parties can share blame, conservatives seem to be hostile to real energy independence. I find it ironic how conservatives are so against conserving.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:43 AM
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15. +100 we need leadership and massive alt energy initiative; we've got neither
Europe is way ahead of us on this

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:27 AM
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12. Suffering will be immense. When it is, maybe then something will be done.
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