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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:08 AM
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McChrystal: Beheadings of Our Allies Simply to Be Expected
How can we stand to live in a country where this exchange is shown live on tv and nobody comments?

REPORTER: In Marja there are reports -- credible reports -- of intimidation and even beheading of local people who work with your forces. Is that your intelligence? And if so, does it worry you?

GEN. MCCHRYSTAL: Yeah. It absolutely is things that we see. But it's absolutely predictable.


I'm sorry. If it is predictable that people who work with you are going to have their heads sliced off, STOP F CKING DOING THAT KIND OF WORK. After all, the work you are doing consists primarily of BLOWING other people's heads off.

STOP IT.

NOW.

It's not your country. You're not welcome there. People who try to help you are seen as enemies of their country. They get their f cking heads cut off. And your puppet president thanks you on their behalf.

STOP IT.

NOW.

If Afghanistan had an Arizona-style law, guess who would fit the profile? Guess who's illegal? Guess who is there in violation of the UN Charter, the will of 94% of Kandaharis and a majority of Americans, your own perverse counterinsurgency manual, and any code of human decency whatsoever?

GET THE HELL OUT.

AND STAY OUT.

And don't even think about asking for another $33 billion of our children's money to make it worse, which we all know you want purely because you think we're stupid enough to believe you're being tough, even though it will do no good whatsoever, your new assault is already failing before being funded, and a majority of us want the whole crime brought to a close.

You don't want to give in to terrorists? OK, then give in to those legally resisting your illegal occupation. Or give in to those nonviolently protesting it. Or give in to the wisdom of your own experts, envoy, ambassador, national security advisor, Army and GAO reports. Or give in to the staggering list of names on the Vietnam Memorial and the fact that there would be fewer if you'd just gotten the hell out sooner.

Or do this: get out and stop bombing Pakistan, which no one gave you any legal right to do, before a succesful bomber hits a US city. We all know you'll kill five million innocent human beings the moment such a bomber succeeds. We all know you don't really want to do that. So STOP F CKING MAKING IT INEVITABLE that you will be in that situation.

Stop giving our kids illegal orders.

Now.

Bring them home.

Bring them home.

Bring them home.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:12 AM
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1. "the work you are doing consists primarily of BLOWING other people's heads off"
:eyes:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:21 AM
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2. That is exactly what we are doing there.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:48 PM
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13. No there is also the other limbs to think about right?
Afghan civilians bear brunt of war





Seven-year-old Attiullah, who was wounded after a bullet entered his back coming out through his chest, sits on his bed at Mirwais hospital October 13, 2009 Kandahar, Afghanistan. According to his grandfather, Attiullah was shot by U.S forces as he was walking in the field near his home in the village of Sangissar, Panjway district watching the family's flock of sheep. The soldiers apparently shot at a vehicle that was supposedly Taliban and the boy got hit accidentally.

just another "collateral damaged boy"

But at least his head is intact

:eyes:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:06 PM
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17. It's monstrous and no one should ever accept any
justification for it. I despise every single politician who is supporting the continuation of this crime. There is simply NO excuse, nothing anyone could every tell me, no attempt to instill fear of 'terrorism' or whatever other lies they manufacture, that would justify it, or justify those in our government who have not stood up and opposed it.

Thank you Dennis Kucinich for trying. Too bad he's so alone.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:01 AM
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3. The Military Industrial Complex will never allow peace and never allow those kids to come home.

The MIC is now a cancer on this country and it's people. A parasitic, controlling, malignant tumor whose very survival depends on continued death, invasion, occupation and international warmongering.

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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:18 AM
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9. ALWAYS SO
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:37 PM
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20. Raster, truer words have never been written.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:03 AM
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23. Thank you, unfortuantely, bertman.
Most citizens of this country have no idea how completely the MIC tentacles entwine us all.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:04 AM
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4. Agree 100%.
There are lots of reasons to bring them home.

The overall immorality of a war you haven't been forced into within the last 4 years. (No war should last more than 4 years and 9/11 was 9 years ago now)
The massive drain on our treasury and our economy.
The lives of our family members.

Bring them home.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:12 AM
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5. K&R great point N/T
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:05 AM
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6. KandR.
peace~
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:27 AM
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7. it's time to get out...
Edited on Sat May-15-10 09:29 AM by unabelladonna
the president owns the war now. is he going to lead or be led?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:29 AM
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8. my god, we are MONSTERS
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:18 AM
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10. +1000 K&R
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:10 PM
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11. Are you the tv dinner guy?
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The Damned Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:12 PM
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12. Hey, these things happen!
:puke:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:34 PM
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14. a recent poll shows that afghans prefer to be killed by foreigners to being killed by the taliban,
it's a FACT! :eyes:
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:53 PM
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19. Given them enough time, and they will use that as a talking point...
... when they end up scrapping at the barrel of justifications for this senseless atrocity.
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:33 PM
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15. thank You, David. nt

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 02:41 PM
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16. It's absolutely predictable that the military is going to justify the killing. K&R
Followed by pleas for more money, more troops, more time.

8 years of effort by "the world's mightiest military" and the situation is getting worse.

It does make one wonder if this war is such a hot idea...in any respect.

We lost. Get out. Get over it.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:15 PM
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18. Losing that war is also "Simply to Be Expected", General. nt
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:39 PM
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21. "When in Rome . . . " And we wonder why we aren't making progress. Rec.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:17 PM
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22. Yes, beheading is expected - it's part of the standard severance package I believe.
Edited on Sat May-15-10 10:53 PM by kenny blankenship
Not a great part of the world if job security is what's most important to you. Nor for related considerations like, you know, being buried in one piece.
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Drops_not_Dope Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:48 AM
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24. Powerful piece David
thank you so much.
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