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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:55 AM
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The Full Extent of Nixon's Crimes
Has there been a full account of the crimes committed during the Nixon Administration? I watched the movie All the President's Men and it seemed like one of the themes of the movie was that Nixon's crimes went beyond the Watergate cover-up. I just wanted to know if anyone has ever put out a full narrative of the crimes committed by the Nixon Administration.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:59 AM
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1. Nixon was bad
His successors other than Ford and Carter are much worse.

In fact, right now, I would be happy with Nixon level corruption in government, it would be change I can believe in.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:13 AM
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6. Almost a "No Shit!", except the Nixon years spawned and/or nurtured many of the most

corrupt of yesterday and todays players: Atwater*, Cheney**, Rumsfeld. The list continues. Many serpents slithered forth from that nest of vipers.
__________
* dead
** living dead

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:16 AM
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7. Shame
Nixon was actually an IKE protege till he lost a close election and embraced total insanity.

You can see it in a lot of Nixon policy that there is a lot of Eisenhower influence.

The 2nd half of the 20th century foundations for good and bad was filled with the political fights and ambitions of 3 remarkable and deeply flawed men.

Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:37 PM
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25. He wasn't an Ike protege, he was the "balance" to Ike...
Edited on Sat May-15-10 12:37 PM by JHB
Eisenhower's campaign slogan may have been "I Like Ike", but the Republicans' conservative nutbar wing didn't like him. Even back then they howled against anyone who didn't toe their line. Eisenhower, having spen his career being publicly apolitical (something which used to be the gold standard of proper behavior for military officers), was too much of an unknown quantity on their pet issues.

Nixon gained noteriety from his time on the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) and the Alger Hiss case, and got his Senate seat after a viciously redbaiting, smear campaign election against a liberal opponent (it was practically a template for the tactics of Lee Atwater and his protoges, like Karl Rove). Ike selected him for a running mate to help "balance the ticket" and mollify the wingnut right, and hopefully woo voters for Strom Thurmond's Dixiecrat Party (which had won 4 states in the previous presidential election) and avoid the possibility of a conservative revolt from the Republicans as well.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:11 PM
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27. and Bobby Kennedy was right there as well
Edited on Sat May-15-10 01:20 PM by AllentownJake
It is interesting how we keep our partison blinders on during such events in History.

One of the few people to attend old Joe McCarthy's funeral.

Nixon had no problem with government regulation or public works domestically, which is essentially the IKE wing of the party.

Ike warned of the Military Industrial Complex, because he built it.

That Grandfatherly image was cute, when he wasn't overturning governments on the Golf Course and Camp David ;-)

Nixon and Ike got along perfectly fine.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:23 PM
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29. It actually was about the GOP primary btw politically
Edited on Sat May-15-10 01:26 PM by AllentownJake
and Getting Earl Warren's delegates to defect. Back in the day when there was an actual convention and delegates voting was not known till the voting happened.

Nixon was part of the solution to the small Earl Warren problem Ike was dealing with for the nomination.

Part 2 was Earl got to be a Supreme Court Justice. Part 2 worked out nicely for everyone except segregation fans.

Funny thing about Warren, he cross filed for every California election and won the nominations for both parties in his statewide races. I guess both sides can claim Earl.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:00 AM
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2. Compared to our recent Presidents, Nixon was a raging liberal
Edited on Sat May-15-10 08:01 AM by IndianaGreen
Nixon's environmental record beats that of the Presidents that followed him, including the current one.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:02 AM
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3. He was our last progressive president. Too bad he was dangerously paranoid. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:07 AM
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4. he was hardly progressive, though he did take some progressive stances
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:09 AM
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5. Yes, but, in relative terms, he was pretty progressive considering what has followed. nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:40 AM
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13. Can you imagine EPA or OSHA coming into law in 2010
If they did not exist right now?

:rofl:

Shit, we actual have debates right now whether mine workers deserve a safe environment and half of the con side is coming from the DLC.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:54 AM
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23. It was a different time
rivers on fire, etc.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:37 AM
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10. Kennedy's no holds barred approach to 1960
Turned Nixon into a lunatic. It is the way politics is played, and there should be no tears for old Dick over that, seeing that he was a no hold barred kind of guy. Dick just didn't understand the new communications media at that point.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:07 PM
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26. Nixon was no more liberal than George W. Bush
The only reason Nixon encated policies that we call liberal is because he was a politician in an era when liberals had some real power. Every politician has to make compromises to get other things done, and that's what Nixon's policies did.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:16 AM
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8. Ford's pardon put the kabosh on justice.
Poppy did same during Iran-Contra.

BTW: Prescott Bush gave Tricky Dick much love.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:37 AM
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11. Exactly.
The Senate Report documents the widest range of Nixon administration "high crimes and misdemeanors" that I've found, although it is definitely incomplete. And Ford made sure that the record would remain incomplete.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:43 AM
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17. The Mob's President
Thanks for the reminder on the Senate Report, H20 Man.

Here's something on Tricky that is less map-like and more story-full:



The Mob's President:

Richard Nixon's Secret Ties to the Mafia


by Don Fulsom
CrimeMagazine.com

During the height of the Watergate scandal, Atty. Gen. John Mitchell's wife, Martha, sounded one of the first alarms, telling a reporter, ''Nixon is involved with the Mafia. The Mafia was involved in his election.''

White House officials privately urged other reporters to treat any anti-Nixon comments by Martha as the ravings of a drunken crackpot.

Time, however, has proved Mrs. Mitchell right.

Richard Nixon's earliest campaign manager and political advisor was Murray Chotiner, a chubby lawyer who specialized in defending members of the Mafia and who enjoyed dressing like them too, in a wardrobe highlighted by monogrammed white-on-white dress shirts and silk ties with jeweled stickpins. The monograms said MMC, because – perhaps to seem more impressive – he billed himself as Murray M. Chotiner, though, in reality, he lacked a middle name.

In this cigar chomping, wheeler-dealer, Nixon had found what future Nixon aide Len Garment called ''his Machiavelli – a hardheaded exponent of the campaign philosophy that politics is war.''

When Nixon went on to the White House, both as vice president, and later as president, he took Chotiner with him as a key behind-the-scenes advisor – and for good reason. By the time he became president in 1969, thanks in large part to Murray Chotiner's contacts with such shady figures as Mafia-connected labor leader Jimmy Hoffa, New Orleans Mafia boss Carlos Marcello, and Los Angeles gangster Mickey Cohen, Richard Nixon had been on the giving and receiving end of major underworld favors for more than two decades.

CONTINUED...

http://www.crimemagazine.com/06/mobpresidentnixon,0205-6.htm



Lots of money to be made through kick-backs. We never got a chance to ask Spiro Agnew, wherever he is.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:39 AM
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12. Ford is more responsible than Nixon.

As for Prescott, Joe Kennedy would have been behind Dick as well if it wasn't his Kid trying for the big chair.


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:56 AM
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18. Jerry lied to America during his ''service'' on the Warren Commission.
Agree about Ford. His role on the Warren Commission marks him a liar. Remember how Poppy chuckled when he mentioned "conspiracy theorists" during his eulogy for Ford?



Don't agree about Joe Kennedy. Joe lost a son fighting the NAZIs. Prescott did business with the NAZIs before, during and after World War II. I don't think he'd be interested in backing a pol with that mindset.

Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:16 AM
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21. Joe had some interesting comments prior to WW2
Edited on Sat May-15-10 11:17 AM by AllentownJake
In fact he got fired for one of them.

Just saying :shrug:

Joe Kennedy liked Dick Nixon till his son was running against him, hell Jack Kennedy liked Dick Nixon until they ran against each other.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:36 AM
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9. Here is a good source page:
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John1956PA Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:51 AM
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14. A Nixon machination: have the Secret Service plant evidence in Arthur Bremer's apartment.
On the evening of May 15, 1972, the day on which Arthur Bremer shot George Wallace, Nixon explored the possibility of having his minions plant in Bremer's apartment literature which would suggest that he was a member of the radical left. The following except is from http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbremer.htm:

Mark Felt of the Federal Bureau of Investigation immediately took charge of the case. According to the historian Dan T. Carter (The Politics of Rage), Felt had a trusted contact in the White House: Charles Colson. Felt gave Colson the news. Within 90 minutes of the shooting Richard Nixon and Colson are recorded discussing the case. Nixon told Colson that he was concerned that Bremer “might have ties to the Republican Party or, even worse, the President’s re-election committee”. Nixon also asked Colson to find a way of blaming George McGovern for the shooting.


I remember reading that Nixon had been drinking when he was trying to organize the ruse. Even when sober, Nixon seemed to suffer from paranoia, and he was willing to consider illegal acts in the realm of political campaigns. He justified doing so in his book, In the Arena, by declaring that he had nothing to apologize for, and that, however dirty some of his campaign actions might have been, others had done worse. He probably never got over his believe that Democratic operatives stole the 1960 election by virtue of the alleged chicanery in the Illinois balloting.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:55 AM
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24. Nixon was an evil sick little fuck
why liberals want to forget that is beyond me.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:55 AM
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15. Nixon pales beside the crimes of the Bush family
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:26 AM
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20. Now this one gets a hearty: NO SHIT!
Edited on Sat May-15-10 10:27 AM by Raster

A family whose genealogy is comprised of Nazi sympathizers, sociopaths, warmongers, liars, cheats, thieves, murderers, war criminals and profiteers. We should have amended the Constitution years ago to sterilize the whole lot and forbide them to breed. There is still a small window of opportunity before the next generation of Bush* infests American government and commerce.

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:57 AM
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16. Nixon got the military to buy grapes during the national UFW-Chavez boycott

The flyers handed out in front of stores had a photo of a little girl with bold print at the top saying "EVERY grape you buy, keeps this child hungry". I've never forgotten that. Check my avatar and you will see I never forgave Nixon for his part in helping Gov. Reagan sell grapes. Reagan was against the boycott btw.

OS

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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 10:22 AM
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19. Government bailout of farmers
Earlier during the cranberry cancer scare, nobody bought cranberries during Thanksgiving and Christmas. The government bought up all of the unsold cranberries and fed them to the armed services (cranberries with hamburgers, cranberries with hot dogs, cranberries with spaghetti......).

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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 11:51 AM
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22. Thom Hartman played a tape of LBJ
talking to Everett Dirksen about Nixon negotiating with the North Vietnamese during the campaign against Humphrey

LBJ had been negotiating a settlement with the Vietnamese when Nixon contacted them and made a deal to not settle until the campaign was over and he would give them a better deal. They stopped the negotiations with LBJ , and the rest is History.

LBJ decided to keep it from the public because in his mind it would so upset the public with the political process that Nixons TREASON would cause riots in the streets, and disillusion the public to the point of refusing to participate in the political process


A few years later Reagan pulled the same stunt on Jimmy Carter.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:12 PM
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28. HAAAAROOOOOOOOO.
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