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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:31 PM
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Catholic school rejects child of lesbians, Progressive catholic groups fight back
Catholics fight move to deny schooling to children of lesbians, gays


(CNN) -- Progressive Catholic groups vented outrage Friday over the decision of a Roman Catholic school in Massachusetts to rescind the admission of an 8-year-old student because his parents are lesbians.

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In March, the Archdiocese of Denver, Colorado, supported a decision by a Catholic school in Boulder to block two students with gay parents from re-enrolling.

While the Denver archbishop who backed that decision, Charles J. Chaput, may be the most outspokenly conservative bishop in the nation, progressive Catholics think they can get more moderate Boston Cardinal Sean O'Malley to speak against Catholic schools rejecting students over their parents' sexual orientation.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/14/catholic.student.gay.parents/index.html?hpt=T2
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:33 PM
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1. Good!!! n/t
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hayrow Donating Member (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:48 PM
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2. Are these people freaking nuts?
Their "church" is telling them that they will be damned for eternity, yet they send their children to be educated by the church that would probably burn them at the stake if they could get away with it. What is wrong with these parents?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 03:59 PM
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3. I certainly would never send my kids into an environment like that... n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:03 PM
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4. I don't get it either. I assume it is really, really hard to turn away from one's childhood religion
:shrug:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:07 PM
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5. no
superior education. At least it used to be
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:24 PM
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6. I had a friend that sent his kids to Catholic school because the public schools
in his neighborhood were so really bad. On more than one occasion he told me it was just to get them away from the public schools. He needed to live where he did, work locations, etc., etc. That was over 20 years ago, I have no idea of the schooling situation now... how good Catholic schools are, etc. Years and years ago when I was a kid you didn't even know what religion, if any, your friends were. It was just not a big deal. Now so many seem to wear their religion on their sleeve like some kind of badge of honor. To me, it's a private thing...
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:32 PM
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9. years ago half the kids went to Catholic schools
half went to public NYC schools when I finally got expelled from ST helena HS and finished my senior year in Public, I never has to open a book since I had covered eveything already, sometimes years earlier.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:29 PM
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7. How is it that people continue to be conned by the Catholic Church
as well as many other Churches? nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:49 PM
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10. It's mindlessness IMO. Many people IMO never think out of the box, they just go
through life never questioning. And this makes many of them easy fodder for clever politicians (and many not so clever)... you just push the right button and they generally respond as you want. Hitler was a master at this as were many of similar ilk. And, many people are never in an environment that causes them to question why they act and think as they do.

IMO this is what makes teabaggers and similar of concern, they appear to just blindly react to having their buttons pushed.

As many have said and I agree, religion has been one of the great tragedies of mankind.



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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:56 PM
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11. IMO the greatest damage done by Religion isn't the teaching of
theological positions,it's the fact that in order to believe such unproven theories,one learns to
disregard normal objective reasoning in general, a very dangerous practice.

The followers are taught to accept what the hear from the clergy without any need to verify.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 05:02 PM
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13. Excellent point! Blind beliefs, adherence and allegiance... very dangerous. n/t
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:16 PM
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15. Wow! It's great to post a message and not get "torched". nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:27 PM
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16. I've had friends that thought what this country needs is more religion in our
government. Could you imagine that. Talk of being brainwashed. I asked them which religion they preferred. I think there are about 1,600 different recognized religions in the world. ...of course, they had not thought about that... as usual.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:29 PM
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8. Funny how this school still allows the politician-who-took-kickbacks' daughter.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 04:57 PM
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12. That's not such an odd thing. After all, "birds of a feather flock together". nt
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 06:06 PM
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14. If they are going to this,
are they prepared to "investigate" what the straight parents of their students are doing too? Are they using birth control and only have one or two kids? Are they getting their tubes tied and having vasectomies? Are they getting civil divorces and getting remarried? Just imagine all the "sins" straight parents might be committing.

If they are prepared to do all this, they will have NO STUDENTS in their schools.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:43 PM
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17. Yeah, that would hit them too close to home, wouldn't it... It's easier for them
to pick gay/lesbian targets. They feel that's a ready made case, ready made to persecute in the name of their god. I get so tired of the same old tired sh**.

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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 07:53 PM
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18. Go Progressives.
I'm glad they are going to take this bullshit to the mat. I don't know when the Catholic Church is going to wake up and stop assailing the mission given it by its supposed founder.

My wife has a cousin who is priest, recently booted from the Catholic Church because he outted a higher-up who was molesting boys. Now this cousin is a priest in the Reformed Catholic Church, which is gay friendly and pushes for equality and social justice for lots of minorities. He is a in much better place, and still able to be a priest - which he maintains is his life calling.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:01 PM
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19. That school is on very weak ground.
" 'The archdiocese does not prohibit children of same-sex parents from attending Catholic schools,' said Mary Grassa O'Neill, the archdiocese's secretary for education and superintendent of Catholic schools. 'We will work in the coming weeks to develop a policy to eliminate any misunderstandings in the future.'

" O'Neill said that the Boston Archdiocese met with one of the child's parents on Thursday and that it has offered to help enroll him in another Catholic school in the archdiocese.

" The parents of the St. Paul student have insisted on anonymity for them and their son in press reports of the situation.

" The Catholic Schools Foundation, a Boston-based group whose board is chaired by O'Malley, said Thursday that it would not support schools that discriminated against students based on their parents' sexual orientation. "


The school's rationale does not hold water. To be consistent, it would have to ban children living with a parent who remarried without an annulment. It would have to ban children whose parent attends no church. It would have to ban children whose parent joined the Masons.

O'Malley should step in. Chaput in Colorado is an idiot. Interestingly, both of these bishops belong to the same Order, the Capuchins.
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