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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:45 PM
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"Congratulations, liberals... You've raise a generation of whiny, snot-nosed brats who can't cope."

That's a comment from someone in response to the San Jose Mercury News article "Local high school students say school pressures cause them the most stress". The article, written by Julia Prodis Sulek, reported on a community meeting hosted by US Rep. Mike Honda (Democrat of California's 15th district). At the meeting, some local high schoolers who were part of Rep. Honda's youth committee presented findings of a survey that showed that students felt that "school-related pressures cause them the most stress and that school officials don't do enough to help them cope":

The survey findings are "scary," said KC Ham, an 18-year-old senior from Presentation High School in San Jose who is a member of Honda's committee, established to provide a youth perspective on national issues.

"A lot said they didn't have contact with or very little interest from counselors — and if they had it, it wasn't helping," Ham said. "That it wasn't working was sad and troubling."

Without proper help or understanding from adults, she said, teens "turn to a lot of different things to cope, and they're not usually the right things."

Drug and alcohol abuse, eating disorders, sleep problems, conflicts with parents and friends and, in extreme cases, suicide can all be linked to some kind of stress, Ham said.

The survey of 180 students found 75 percent attribute the stress they face from school-related activities and more than 60 percent said school officials don't take effective measures to deal with student stress. The survey also found that 68 percent claimed to know someone who has suffered serious consequences as a result of stress. The survey was conducted by handing out questionnaires to students in classrooms.

Honda, who attended Sunday's conference, said adults need to pay more attention to the pressures put on their children.


Yes, if you want to be successful, high school IS tough, right?

But it's really really really stupid to just point the finger at liberalism as the culprit of the high school culture of excessive sadness and competition.

After all, do realize that a lot of conservative parents send their children to uber-competitive private schools. Because conservatism is more of a "me first" ideology (compared to liberalism as a societal ideology...conservatives call that "socialist"), conservative parents often stop at nothing to get their kids ahead of the game. After all, conservatives led white flight (they didn't want their kids coexisting with other types who threatened their place). They want to raise classy "good ol' kids" so they a lot of times complain belligerently to teachers when their little angels don't get an A. They're the ones who believe that children should be 200% obedient and always always always "follow the rules" when human nature doesn't let every kid behave that way. Don't even get me started about how the wealthiest conservative parents run their families' economies like George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan ran the government's budgets (into massive debt while preaching "fiscal responsibility") and raise their kids to be self-centered and entitled to everything (while teaching them to oppose health care reform and Social Security and other big bad government entitlement programmes).

OK, I'll not be one-sided here and won't deny some liberal parents act that way too, but this liberal-bashing just makes the commenter a talk radio-poisoned melted-brain zombie. I've seen all sorts of anti-liberal rhetoric on the comment boards on the San Jose Mercury News and San Francisco Chronicle website, but this comment was so crazy and so ignorant I just HAD to share and analyse it with y'all. 'K mates?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:48 PM
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1. WE'RE raising kids that can't cope?
Perhaps the person who wrote that comment should tell that to the millions of wacko fundies who homeschool their kids so they're not "corrupted by outside influences".

You know, those kids who melt down on the first day of college because the professor isn't Mommy anymore?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:40 PM
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7. Wait--you mean fundie home-schooled whackadoodles
can actually GET into college? Wow. What a concept. I never knew.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:01 PM
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2. I don't know how this got blamed on Liberals - My high school sucked
I saw a counsellor exactly once in 4 years and told him I wanted to quit and go to another school. This was in 1965, and there obviously has not been much improvement.

High school was a matter of survival to me-I wish they had had the GED program back then...


mark
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 12:21 AM
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13. I dropped out of school two days after I turned 16-years-old
I took a year off and shipped off to job corps when I was 17. I got my GED and a trade and was back home working and had my own apartment while my friends were still in school and living at home. Of course, they all went to college after high school. :-)
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 05:52 AM
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15. My wife didn't bother to show up for most of her last 2 years of high school -
she just took the tests and passed...They mailed her a diploma just to get rid of her (she graduated from college with honors, the second generation of women in her family to do so...)

Roon, High School still sucks - whatever they changed, they probably changed all the wrong shit.
(Hope you are doing well.)

mark
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:36 AM
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18. Hi Mark
Yeah,High School was hell for me,I am glad I made it through. I have no doubt that High School still sucks.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:01 PM
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3. maybe they can't cope because no one wants to FUND education anymore.
yet they expect the schools to be able to graduate kids who can read and stuff. so the kids end up in crowded classes with not enough books for everyone if they are even current books.... they can't get help after school because there is no money for that kind of stuff and then they can't participate in sports because their parents can't afford it because the school can't afford it and so they just don't have anything to do. then the same people who bitch about having to pay all those taxes for schools bitch some more because these kids that didn't get a decent education now can't get a job and need FOOD STAMPS and assistance.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 08:20 AM
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17. Bingo!
I was thinking about my high school years and one of the biggest outlets were my extra-curricular activities, especially tennis which got me moving around. Now I don't think they even have gym class.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:14 PM
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4.  that`s nothing new...
every generation goes through the same thing...high school is stressful. looks like the students want help and the school is`t providing it.

just another right winger who blames everything on the liberals while taking absolutely no responsibility for their inaction.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:23 PM
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5. Sounds like a something Lush Limbaugh would say..
Why waste board space on something "really really stupid" from an anonymous rightwingnut poster?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 01:30 AM
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14. Well said! nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:34 PM
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6. Well they have adult age idiots running around capital buildings with their 'guns'
on display...as roll models! Talkin bout 'God' and 'Guns' and throwing the word Freedom around like it was a cheap and easy. I'm sure the kids are all into the RWing milita idiots plight against the Fed gummit! :eyes:

Projection is so ugly sometimes.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:41 PM
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8. Liberal-bashing? What is their screen name?
:silly:
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:54 PM
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9. Screenname was "dothead" n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 06:52 AM
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16. At least they've given an honest indication of the size of their brain.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:56 PM
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10. Silly, liberals don't raise children; we abort them all!
Stick to the right-wing talking points!
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:26 PM
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11. Check out the Yahoo news comments sections
That shit is fun. I think all the unemployed teabaggers hang out there all day.

I sent this one to my brother. It was a comment about a story devoted to using augmented reality technology.



Now the tote the note, lazy eneration who live off your parents all the days of your life, refuse to get an education, job, act like wild animals are getting their wish. Now the government sees you don't want to learn or think for yourselves, well guess what, the so called government has created something to help you think. Some of you do not have a clue about whats really going on, do you. Everthing is leading to mind control, soon you won't have your natural God given brain anymore. I hope you realize this is a true sign that JESUS is returning and the ANTI-CHRIST will come on the scene soon as JESUS get the SAINTS (body of Christ) out of here. It's all in the GOOD BOOK - the BIBLE. If you haven't read it, you need to start reading it, REPENT of ALL your SINS because if you are left back here with the ANTI-CHRIST, he is going to have a worst than Hitler field day with you. That is why the government is setting up the all -over the- world camera system so the anti-christ can find you. No wonder the book of Revelations says you will try to hide out in the mountains but they will not hide you.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:27 PM
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12. It was the conservativism of
Reagan, Thatcher, and Mulroney that taught us that we can have everything we want without having to work/pay for it (i.e 'cheap debt').
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:41 AM
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19. Are they suggesting Liberals raise Tea-partiers?
"...whiny, snot-nosed brats who can't cope".

Sure as hell sounds like they're talking about tea partiers to me.

:shrug:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:51 AM
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20. Perhaps if funding and getting good teachers (a liberal philosophy) was actually
followed, and No Child Left Behind was not such a mess, we wouldn't have these issues.
The testing pressure on kids is nuts. Even in CT, where we are not a poor state by any means, there are school closings. People expect perfection but won't pay for it. The pressure to succeed is incredibly high but the schools are suffering from a lack of funding. In other countries, education is treated with higher standards and more resources put into it.

The only good thing to come from school closings is some conservative parents and apolitical types are realizing what it is going to cost their kids. Waking up is a big part of it.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:53 AM
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21. So....the only parents extant are Liberals?! News to THIS retired teacher!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:55 AM
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22. school has always been stressful for kids, especially the serious minded that see it as their
Edited on Mon May-17-10 09:56 AM by seabeyond
future.

the point?

those that resort to booze and drug i would imagine has let go of the stress and more into the play of it. i dont see that the serious conservative or liberal handling it any different.

i already see my finishing freshman becoming stressed by his grade and performance and it is my job to help him stay balanced and centered. what a parent does. as we encourage and teach responsibility. being a teenager is about learning how to be an adult, in the adult world with ooopes along the way. not about seeing how out of control one can be, like a two year old.
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