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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 10:45 PM Original message |
If you think the BP incident was bad, wait until we have |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. +1 |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Ditto. nt |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. This could be worse if it continues for much longer |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. The nuclear industry has already created a Dead Zone - Chernobyl. BP did the aquatic version. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Haunting photos. nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Haunting, and also mostly faked. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 06:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Nothing fake about it. (Some people simply deny events and facts they don't agree with) Links: |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. IMO, those are the most haunting. I knew the group in the gas masks wasn't |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
43. There's an abundance of life around Chernobyl, more than there was before the humans left. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. I knew we ranked right up there as the most destructive force on the planet, but |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. (except it's not dead anymore, there's a huge wildlife resurgence) |
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jp11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sort of |
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FBI_Un_Sub (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. We wil need a solar energy manhattan project |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I live in an area where... |
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FBI_Un_Sub (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Photovoltaics were developed and commercialized |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. I did my homework. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Small scale wind is bad almost everywhere, it is too close to the ground and... |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 02:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Good info. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Variously estimated at between 10 and 40 years. |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Yes, we've come a long way. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. That is the goal. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Don't worry. There is enough sun in Southern California to |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. You are aware there are 4 operational nuclear power reactors in Souther Califronia right now. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Nuclear and fossil fuels are two sides of the same coin |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. You guys are already hurting for water. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. I'm a big proponent of solar energy but have always wondered if it's viable for |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. If the oil industry learned that in six months every drop of oil on the planet |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
64. It is being reported by some DU'ers that there are now ads from |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. What you say isn't accurate. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. "you CANNOT make the math work' |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 01:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. But we need a solution right now. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Thanks, I did not have that information. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. One clarification. Reprocessing can reduce the amount of spent fuel |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 01:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Holdren (President's Science and Technology advisor) on nuclear and renewables |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 02:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Don't believe the hype - you can't really "recycle" the waste |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. A wall of text and super-dense links doesn't change the scientific facts. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. That "wall of text and super-dense links" are the scientific facts. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 05:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. +1 |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. That is not a recommended solution |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. There are other alternative energy sources... |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 04:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
40. Technically.. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
46. And we are at $2.5 Trillion+ for the Iraq debacle (current + future costs) |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Ah, you again. You always forget about converting garbage to energy. And retrofitting. |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. The moon, via tides, can produce all the energy we need... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. Once you get over the initial investment, solar & wind is way cheaper. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. No. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. No. |
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Ghost of Tom Joad (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
20. does anyone know |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
22. Solar and Wind power are not totally safe? |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
41. Totally safe is not true :) |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. Safe? SAFE? |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
31. I appreciate your concern. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. That isn't true |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. You are talking "Could be"... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. No, your assertion was shown wrong by the paper. |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 02:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Ummmm... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. The proof is in the eating, as they say. |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. That's a lot of land. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
44. another thing, which most people ignore about the whole oil deal, isn't driving, or electricity. we |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I've read that.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
51. The BP incident actually happened. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
53. If you think the BP incident was bad, wait until we have ... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
54. Didn't Al Gore already say this and endorse Obama because he thought Obama was on the same page? |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-19-10 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
63. big kick! |
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