Holy $h!t...Meanwhile the press was reporting the "success" of the 4 inch pipe

[kpete]

Holy $h!t
by FishOutofWater
Mon May 17, 2010 at 09:43:11 AM PDT

An eddy spinning off of the Loop current captured spilled oil at the end of last week then pulled it into the Loop current.



Meanwhile the press was reporting the "success" of the 4 inch pipe. A 4 inch pipe has approximately 3.6% of the capacity of the 21 inch main pipe. It's like a garden hose in a broken fire hydrant.



Oil has moved over 1 degree south in 2 days.

more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/17/867122/-Holy-$h!t

[spanone]

1. bp is milking this 4" pipe bullshit cause it's the only positive in a world of negatives.

and the media is helping

[RKP5637]

2. Yeah, it's like using a straw to suck up the water from a fire hose. n/t

[Uncle Joe]

3. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[Ruby the Liberal]

4. If those are accurate, it is moving very fast.

Not good. Not good at all.

[Vinca]

5. They could stop the entire leak this very moment and it would

still be a disaster of epic proportions.

[kestrel91316]

6. The straw is working SO well, it's diverting a whopping 1000 gallons of oil a day.....

Wow.

[thereismore]

7. It's a model. No worries. BP has a different model I am sure. nt

[damntexdem]

8. Well, sticking a 4" pipe into a 20" pipe 1 mile down may be a technical feat.

But it doesn't help very much.

[11 Bravo]

9. What the Hell. The Florida Keys were overrated anyway.

[Cleita]

10. I believe they are more concerned about recovering as much of the

oil as they can. The hell with environmental destruction. They need to figure out a way to cap that geyser. Period. I believe it's time for our Army Corp of Engineers to step in and start working with the BP engineers.

[BeFree]

11. Step in?

I say they step ON BP. Get BP as far away as possible. But send them the bill.

How many different headlines have there been about the next BP attempt to stop the flow?

At least five failure headlines. They are incompetent and the government needs to take over. Navy? CoE?

Tell ya, if they needed a plan to screw up the gulf forevermore and make it *pure* for drilling every square inch, they couldn't have a better plan.

[Cleita]

12. I agree BP should be sent home, but that would require nationalization and

I don't think Congress will go there.

[blindpig]

14. No, they will not.

They are, by and large, owned by corporate intersets.

[mikelgb]

23. love sig image n/t

[BeFree]

15. Congress?

Nah... Here's how it works...

Emergency declared. Done.
MP's invade the offices followed by an Admiral.
Any BP employee who objects is in the brig, pronto.
The Admiral takes over and gets the best people involved.
On the water the Coast Guard moves in and takes directions from the Admiral.


If this had happened on day 5 the leak would have been plugged by now.

[Abq_Sarah]

16. Congress could conceivably

Take back the lease but they'd be potentially limiting liability if they did so.

They can't "nationalize" BP as it's a global corporation. It's extremely doubtful it would pass constitutional muster under the "takings" clause. They can hold them financially responsible.

[Cleita]

17. They could nationalize the rigs in our coastal waters, but they won't.

Yes, BP will go on but we could kick them out of our country, but we won't.

[starroute]

19. Could they apply the piracy article of the Constitution?

http://www.answers.com/topic/piracy

The Constitution addresses piracy in Article 1, Section 8. It gives Congress "the Power … To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations." Generally, the definition of pirates meant rogue operators at sea — independent criminals who hijacked ships, stole their cargo, or committed violence against their crew. But standards in all areas under the law changed in response to judicial rulings and to historical incidents, forming by the mid-1800s what became the basis for contemporary law.


http://farnham.blogspot.com/2009/04/piracy-us-constitution.html

Piracy has a rare position among crimes in the United States. It is actually enshrined in the Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 10 says Congress shall have power "to define and punish piracies committed on the high seas."

Piracy is one of the few crimes for which there has for centuries been an international consensus that states have extraterritorial jurisdiction.

[BeFree]

22. Wow, nice find

It works for me. I wonder if congress has the guts to do the right thing?

[Abq_Sarah]

24. No...

They are a duly licensed company operating under government regulations.

[starroute]

25. Duly licensed companies can go rogue

I'm not sure it would work. I'm not a Constitutional scholar -- and this would be new territory. But the Constitution does give the Congress wide latitude to define as piracy any kind of felony outside territorial limits.

And if the feds say, "You've had your chance, now we're taking over," and BP says, "No, no, my Precious, can't have it" -- I think there'd be a reasonable case to be made out that they've become rogue operators and could be taken over.

[Angry Dragon]

13. But that is only the oil they can see

that is not the oil that is below the surface and near the bottom. Who knows where the oil is and far it will go....??

[Karenina]

18. And what about the tons of POISON they're dumping

to cover their tracks. Corexit 9500. The WORST of all possible choices... :argh:

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

20. Relax

Brit Hume said yesterday on Fox that underground oil's "natural seepage" is more polluting than this oil spew.


Natural seepage? I wonder if Frank Luntz gave him that.

[Angry Dragon]

21. If oil seeps naturally

then why the need to drill for it??

I wonder if hume cares to answer that one??

[LeftyFingerPop]

27. This oil gusher is making me have some "natural seepage" n/t

[earth mom]

26. Why doesn't Obama & Congress rip control of this disaster from BPs greedy fingers?!

I can't believe they are just standing by and watching as BP destroys our oceans!!! :grr: :argh: :mad:

[Individualist]

28. Have you seen this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8360876&mesg_id=8360876

They're more interested in covering up the disaster than correcting it.

[earth mom]

29. Thanks for the link-this just blows my mind it's so damn sick!

:wow: