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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:04 PM
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Look what ole Barney Frank is up to.
He wants to put the dirty dealing of Congress and the corrupt lobbyists on C-SPAN for bills going through the Conference Committee......


http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/conference-committee-where-lobbyists-attack-bills-after-they-have-passed-congress

Conference Committee - Where Lobbyists Attack Bills after they have passed Congress
Submitted by Robert Oak on Mon, 05/17/2010 - 12:15


As noted many times, lobbyists are swarming capital hill trying to stop financial reform.

Many of you probably don't know of a major kill legislation lobbyist trick in their arsenal tool basket. That trick is to kill amendments, rewrite the bill in conference committee. After a bill has passed both houses, even with some amendments passing in overwhelming majorities, lobbyists can get their chosen representatives as conferees when the House and Senate bill versions are negotiated to rectify the differences between the two versions.

Conferees are House and Senate members, but only about 3 from each congressional body. So, a select group of 6 or 8 can literally change a piece of legislation after it has passed both houses via conference committee. Lobbyists can get their representatives hand picked by Congressional and or Committee leadership and then override the vote of the Congressional majority.

This is where amendments are literally ripped out, per the conferees and one gets a completely different bill than what passed either the House or the Senate body.

Ridiculous huh?

Well, Representative Barney Frank wants to put this process on C-SPAN to try to shred some light on these dirty dealings. This is a big deal folks. Just when you think you've got some legislation for the American people, bam, in conference, the bill gets blasted with shotgun loopholes. Entire amendments are tossed and changed.

While Senate leaders have been silent on what comes after that vote, Frank, 70, said he expects a “fairly quick conference” of “a week to 10 days” to merge the two measures.

C-Span Conference

Wall Street and the public will be able to watch the joint discussions if Frank gets his way. “I think it’s very likely it will be on C-Span,” Frank said. “There was all this talk about doing that for health care, and I think we should do it with this bill.”

Yet, the reality is bills do not have to go to conference. Instead the House could just plain pass the Senate version.

There has been no decision on whether to hold a House- Senate conference on the regulatory bill, Regan Lachapelle, a spokeswoman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, said last week. The danger of taking a bill to conference would be giving members from opposite wings of the Democratic party a platform to chip away at Senate compromises, said Mark Calabria, a former Republican staff member on the Senate Banking Committee.

“The question for leadership becomes: Can you keep people out who are trying to drive that wedge between the progressive wing of the party and the Wall Street wing of the party?” said Calabria, who is now the director of financial regulation studies at the Cato Institute.

In lieu of a conference, the House could pass the Senate bill as is, or amend the Senate bill and send it back across the Capitol Building for another Senate vote. Frank said he would oppose that process.

We'll be watching who the conferees are as best we can and post. While the ideal world would take the strongest provisions from both bills and put them together. With the lobbyist locust swarm, plus the fact architecting a new financial regulatory system with it's complexities is not exactly a trivial matter, I'm not hopeful.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:05 PM
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1. +1 nt
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:06 PM
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2. Thank you, Barney Frank. These deliberations should be on C-Span.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:07 PM
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3. Great idea except that someone will want to make it into a reality show.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:11 PM
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4. Transparency
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:21 PM
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5. thank you Mr. Frank....n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:24 PM
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6. Barney. Recommended.
:thumbsup:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 09:25 PM
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7. Barney's da man! nt
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:30 PM
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8. Kick for the late shift.
:kick:
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:00 PM
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9. Wow! I just learned something...
I didn't know that Barney Frank was 70 years old!
Shit, he looks and acts like he's in his 50's!
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 11:25 PM
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10. Barney has been around the block a few times.
Almost 30 years in Congress.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 08:58 AM
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11. K&R...n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:54 AM
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12. Good idea but they will probably just find another way
to hide their corruption behind closed doors.

There is absolutely no way in hell conferees would conduct themselves in the same manner if the cameras are rolling.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:58 AM
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13. K&R ... and this made me do a double take...
“The question for leadership becomes: Can you keep people out who are trying to drive that wedge between the progressive wing of the party and the Wall Street wing of the party?” said Calabria, who is now the director of financial regulation studies at the Cato Institute.


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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:18 PM
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14. K&R!
:thumbsup:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:24 PM
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15. K&R
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:31 PM
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16. If we get more TV coverage, that's good--but I doubt it will end behind-closed-doors deals
if only...They'll just learn to do it out of sight of the cameras.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:35 PM
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17. After all the Republican hoo-ha on the health care reform bill
You'd think the GOP would be on board with this proposal, stopping The Will of the People from being subverted by shadowy lobbyists and closed-door skullduggery, right?

I'll bet a shiny nickel that Frank's proposal is met with thundering silence from our pals on the Republican side of the aisle.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 06:19 PM
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18. Ahhh. The warmth of sunshine. Thank you Rep Frank!
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 06:52 PM
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19. I love watching sausage being made.
If they can work some of those Wall Street lobbyists into the grinder - makes it even tastier.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 07:09 PM
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20. Recommend - it's a start - if bills STILL come out
Too stinky for words - there will be taped footage of where it was ok - a notable gap of where it got fucked up.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 07:39 PM
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21. The Lobbyist Locust Swarm!
Neat turn of phrase there.

Go Barney Go!!!!

Can we lobby C Span to help make this happen!!??


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