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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 07:59 AM Original message |
BP's next plan: A Top Kill (from Time mag) |
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marylanddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why is BP being left to manage this disaster? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I don't know. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, "Top Kill". It's simple, they should have tried this on day one. Here's the graphic. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Thanks! |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. That's been my theory, too. |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You know that they are |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. I missed that yesterday! |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. "...and then we'll never produce from it." |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Of couse. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Why didn't they try this sooner? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It has a low chance of success and has never been tried before. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. None of the solutions has a 100% chance of working flawlessly. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Generally in probability risk assement you look at benefit vs risk vs likelihood of success. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Again, they can attempt more than one solution simultaneously. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. The BOP is damaged and under a lot of pressure. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Everyone calls it a "siphon", or "siphoning". Is it really a "siphon", or does it... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. It probably does suck. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Then it makes no sense that they didn't cap it to begin with! |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Thats the point. It isn't sure fired. |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Nothing they are doing has been tried at depth... |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. That, but the point being |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Oh I agree 100%. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Liability and lawsuits are capped at $75 million. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Even with liability caps the cleanup will be billions. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Congress can't retroactively raise the $75 million cap. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Ex Post Facto covers criminal penalties. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Ex Post Facto covers laws, criminal and civil. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. The term "Ex Post Facto" specifically relates to criminal statutes (at least in the US). |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I concede, you are correct. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. No problem. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. And how much of that is the cost of dispersant bought from a sister company? |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Yep... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
27. "A top kill"... killing the oceans from the top down. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-18-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
28. K & R |
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