Woody Allen: Roman Polanski Has Paid For What He's Done

[Dinger]

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/17/woody-allen-roman-polanski-has-paid-for-what-he’s-done/?hpt=T2

[me b zola]

1. Of course he would say that

Allen is an incestuous daughter raper.

[Goblinmonger]

87. Um, no, he's not. n/t

[Scuba]

2. Sorry Woody......

...I'm not taking morality lessons from someone who screws his own daughter.

[area51]

133. +1 (n/t)

[TwilightGardener]

3. Sez one old perv about another.

[polichick]

9. You took my quip! :)

[Dinger]

18. Kinda What I Thought (nt)

[cali]

4. not under the law he hasn't. sorry, woody.

[WeDidIt]

5. The last guy that should be defending Polanski is Woody Allen. n/t

[Bucky]

138. I thought he'd be the perfect person to defend him.

Unless he was a Republican. Then Newt would explain why it wasn't such a big deal (and probably Clinton's fault).

[KamaAina]

6. Birds of a feather...

:eyes:

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Classic Freudian projection.

[proteus_lives]

109. +1

[thereismore]

8. One perv to another. nt

[hughee99]

10. "Hey, Woody, you're not helping", Polanski called to tell him.

Gary Glitter on line 2.

[Dr. Strange]

26. Polanski then received help from the sports community: Ben Roethlisberger and Lawrence Taylor.

Said Polanski about the help, "Are you kidding me? Can't you guys find me, like, I don't know, a monk or something?"
Three priests immediately offered their support, causing Polanski to have a heart attack.

[hughee99]

31. Nice! n/t

[closeupready]

67. lol - you guys crack me up.

:rofl:

[Lilyeye]

102. lol

[Swamp Rat]

119. LOL!!

[dems_rightnow]

11. Yet Hollywood has a lot of Polanski supporters

Jesus.................

[BurtWorm]

36. I'm not in Hollywood.

I wouldn't say I'm a Polanski supporter, exactly, but I think his case is much more complicated than people seem to realize.

Polanski did serve the time he was required to serve: 90 days in "observation" at Soledad's hospital for the criminally insane. Originally, he was given a year of probation to be followed by the 90 days at Soledad. He was allowed to go to Europe to make a film, but while he was there, he was photographed with a business associate (who wanted to talk about Eruopean distribution, if I remember correctly from the excellent film Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired) and two young women at Oktoberfest. The judge took that as a personal insult and ordered Polanksi back in the US to serve his time immediately. Polanski came back and entered Soledad.

The problem is, the corrupt judge who sentenced him decided to make the penalty stiffer when his wardens found no psychiatric reason to hold Polanksi longer than 45 days (I think--it was not the full 90 days, but they were within their rights to release him). Polanski believed he was about to be deported (correctly, actually: the judge planned to give him a lot of time, which he could waive if he agreed to be deported), so he fled.

Polanski did the time. It is not the time a rapist should get, let alone one who rapes a child. I think almost everyone except possibly Polanski and Allen agree. But, unfortunately, that's the way the system was set up in 1977 (or whatever year it was), and it is illegal to try him again for the same crime--or it used to under the prohibtion against double jeopardy, but we seem to be living in a time when we can just make the rules up as we go along to please the crowd. In any case, the victim has said she thinks Polanski has done enough time and should be allowed to come back to the US without penalty.

[aikoaiko]

107. Not quite, Burtworm. The 90-day eval was a prelude to the sentencing hearing which Polanski skipped

Polanski was not sentenced and, therefore, he did not complete his sentence. He is a fugitive.

[BurtWorm]

112. The film (Wanted and Desired) is wrong, then?

My understanding is based on their narrative.

PS: I also know he's a fugitive. He was called back before the judge. But he somehow knew (probably his lawyer told him) that the judge planned to impose a tougher sentence and offer deportation as an alternative. So he deported himself. But he is a fugitive technically.

[aikoaiko]

124. As with most documentaries, there is creative license or a least a little hand waving.

There was an agreement about fulfilling a 90-day evaluation prior to the sentencing hearing, but ultimately Polanski skipped out on his sentencing which makes him a fugitive just like an other criminal who got nervous about what the judge might impose. Whenever there is a presentencing agreement, there is an implicit criteria to not irritate or provoke the judge.

In my opinion, he still needs to be sentenced for the crime to which he pled guilty.

Also, in my opinion, he needs to be held accountable for fleeing.

[BurtWorm]

128. Just to be clear, you saw the film?

[aikoaiko]

130. Yes, I saw the film. twice.

As far I as I remember, even the film made it clear that Polanski knew he had to be on his best behavior until sentencing.

[mkultra]

111. sorry man, thats not correct

He fled to London to avoid sentencing.

[BurtWorm]

114. Did you see Wanted and Desired?

Was Wanted and Desired wrong?

[mkultra]

115. I didnt see it but the facts of the case are pretty well know.

The psych stay was part of an evaluation. He pled guilty to molesting a 13 year old girl. You don't get 90 days in the funny farm for that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1217378/French-government-drops-support-director-Roman-Polanski-faces-extradition-U-S.html

[BurtWorm]

116. You should see Wanted and Desired.

The story is more complicated than a tabloid newspaper article can deal with.

[mkultra]

125. you know, i can think of only one thing that would make me care

and that would be if he actually had no sexual contact with the victim. If he did, and that remains undisputed in the documentary, then i couldn't care less if the legal system took him for a ride.

Does the film dispute this fact?

[BurtWorm]

126. No it doesn't dispute that.

Unfortunately, it's not just that Polanski got taken for a ride. In fact, because of the fucked up way rape cases were tried in the 1970s, the girl's mother decided she didn't want to put her daughter through a trial. And this trial was already a circus. No one was well-served by the system in this case.

[mkultra]

131. Then he needs time in jail

not just 42 days of pysch eval

[Old Troop]

117. OK. Let's see. You get a very young girls stoned on booze and 'ludes

rape her and it's OK?

[BurtWorm]

127. Did someone say that was ok?

I'm only saying the story is more nuanced than most people realize. Polanski did what the justice system demanded of him, which was not much, until the judge decided out of the blue to go back on his decision, which Polanski abided by, and get tough on him. Most people apparently think Polanski fled before he was sentenced. That's not true. there's a political element in the case that most people don't know or care about. But the judge in the case was making up the law as he went along and his main concern was to look good in the press. He probably would have had a case brought against him if Polanski hadn't fled. The prosecutor was even willing to join the case agaisnt the judge.

The point is the US justice system failed miserably in this case, not least of which to do justice door this girl.

[cbdo2007]

56. You pretty much get a free pass on anything in Hollywood.....

Geez, look at Charlie Sheen. He's got a long history of beating up his girlfriends/wives and he's the highest paid actor on tv.

[David Zephyr]

122. Not really. Polanski has become toxic to most in Hollywood as this story re-opened.

And, as a reminder, Woody Allen, is a New Yorker and no fan of "Hollywood" himself.

[Donnachaidh]

12. God damn it -- I just had my irony meter fixed! Thanks Woody!

You planning on double-dating with Roman in the future?

[ismnotwasm]

13. Geez 'Woody';

You're not doing the guy any favors.

[CBGLuthier]

14. Here come the ignorant.

One more time folks, she was not his daughter. Never ever did he adopt her. He never married her adoptive mother either.

They have been married for 13 years. She was 20 when they got married. Maybe people should learn to mind their own fucking business and grow up. Not everybody marries their childhood sweetheart and lives happily ever after.

Someone mentioned incest? You are truly confused on this issue or the issue of exactly what incest is.

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[verges]

32. Soon-Yi's adoptive father was Andre Previn, not Woody Allen.

And Woody didn't even live with Mia Farrow.

And besides, what two consenting adults do (providing it isn't illegal) is none of my business.

[me b zola]

35. My (adoptive) father was a good man and never laid a hand on me

My (adoptive, not blood-related) brother molested me. It was incest. What if it had been my foster brother instead? To me that still would have been incest, he was my brother.

Sick and perverted. :thumbsdown: and a cyber pie in your face.

[verges]

38. Nor was Woody Soon-Yi's adoptive brother.

Yes, he was involved with Soon-Yi's adoptive mother. But, he never lived with her, never married her. And the Woody Allen - Soon-Yi Previn relationship was consensual. According to the participants, Soon Yi was een he aggressor. They have now been married for 13 years and by all accounts they are a very happy couple. The relationship was/is their business. Nothing illegal happened.

You kind of sound like a fundie getting upset about gay relationships. It offends their morality yet breaks no laws. They should just mind their own damn business, without passing judgements on things that do not concrn them. As should you..

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[verges]

57. 18 according to both of them.

And BTW they have now been married, apparently happily, 13 years. And it's not just "his story" it's also her's.

[me b zola]

68. Incestuous pedophile

[verges]

70. No.

[me b zola]

He is

[verges]

73. No he's not.

[me b zola]

76. Yes he is

[verges]

79. Mr and Mrs Allen's situation is not yours.

It looks like your projecting. By all accounts, they are a happily married couple that has now been married 13 years. She was 18 years old when the relationship came to light. There is no reason to asume the relationship began before she reached the age of legal consent; which is 17 in NY. Though perhaps unconventional, is it your business to pronounce verdict on a legal, consensual relationship? It really is very similar to the moral righteousness of the fundies about gay relationships.

[me b zola]

If i married my (adopted) brother

and was "happily married" for thirteen years would you say the same? Sweet Jesus, you're on the wrong side of this issue. Again, you are conflating incest & pedophilia with LGBT, not me.

I'm coming to the conclusion that adoption should be outlawed if this is how some will treat adoptees.

Oh yeah, and a big

to you

[Goblinmonger]

95. But there are many problems with your statement of the "facts"

1. he never adopted her
1a. he never lived in the same house when Mia was taking care of her
1b. he never married Mia to make him a step father

2. there is NO proof that there was anything happening while she was underage so the claims of pedophile (which isn't technically correct for that age anyway) are just not warranted.

[verges]

118. Allen was NOT Miss Previn's adopted father.

Andre Previn was. Two consensual adults have the right to marry who they choose!

[verges]

121. If there is no blood relation,

and both adults are happy with the relationship, why should I object? Adults are allowed to make the choice (if choice is the right word for falling in love) of whom they love and marry.

[me b zola]

90. dupe delete

[EOTE]

86. I think you should learn what those words mean before throwing them out so loosely.

Because it's rather apparent you're confused about both of them.

[me b zola]

97. No, I am not confused

But thanks for your concern

[EOTE]

101. Really? Are you sure about that?

If so, please tell me what a pedophile is and then tell me why Woody Allen should be considered one. Then, please tell me what you think incestuous means and why Woody Allen should be described by that adjective. If you can tell me how he can aptly be described by either of those words, I'll apologize. Otherwise, you're throwing around very serious words very loosely. And it makes you look rather daft.

[me b zola]

105. If you believe that Allen and his daughter didn't "fall in love" until she hit the age of

"legal consent", then I have a bridge to sell you.

Incest. Do you have children? What would you call it if a lover of your ex was diddling your child? Pedophilia, sure. But you better believe that your child would see that boyfriend as a father figure, hence incest. If you believe that adopted children are different then we need outlaw adoptions.


FFS, this is really a creepy thread.

[EOTE]

106. Your ignorance is on display once more.

First of all, the age of consent in NY is 17, three years before they got married. So yes, it's very reasonable to believe they didn't "fall in love" (for some reason, you find quotes necessary), until she reached the age of consent (although there is no age of consent required to love someone).

Also, you seem to conveniently forget that she wasn't his daughter. Nor was she the daughter of anyone he was related to. Incest is sexual relations between relatives. If you need to lie to get your point across, you've already failed.

Yes, I have a child, not that it has anything to do with this conversation. And yes, if anyone was diddling my child, he/she would be a pedophile. That's because my daughter is 3. Do you understand that? Pedophilia means a sexual interest in PREPUBESCENT children. Comprende? Even if you assume the absolute worst and suggest that Allen developed an interest in Soon-Yi when she was 15, THAT STILL WOULDN'T MAKE HIM A PEDOPHILE. And there's nothing to suggest that he developed an interest in her before she reached the age of consent, unless you happen to know something we all don't?

And once again, you need to lie in order to make your point. Soon-Yi wasn't Allen's adopted daughter either, so try again.

So, to recap: Incest means sexual relations between relatives. Blood relatives most commonly, but even if you extend it to mean adopted relatives as well, the word wouldn't apply to Woody Allen. Pedophilia means a sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. Considering that Woody Allen's relationship with Soon-Yi began several years after puberty, pedophile/pedophilia wouldn't apply either. So you're speaking entirely out of your ass when you make such disgusting accusations. You are factually wrong. You are wrong on all accounts. If you have a bone to pick with Woody Allen, you should be able to make it without throwing around slanderous and disgusting accusations.

[verges]

60. Btw. It seems that 17 is the age of consent in NY.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/newyork.htm

No law was broken.

[verges]

28. +1

[seabeyond]

30. how old was she when they started playing around? you seem to be informed, but i dont see

that in your post. i am clueless

thanks

[Donnachaidh]

41. so it wasn't incestual -- he was still a lecherous bastard fooling around with an UNDERAGE girl

"Technically" incestual, that is.

And even if he didn't marry Mia and he didn't adopt her legally, for all intent and purposes he WAS acting as Stepfather to that brood which included Sun yi..

So you and the horse you rode in on can go f*ck yourself. Attitudes like YOURS enables this sort of bullshit to continue to happen.

[Goblinmonger]

88. He wasn't even living with the family.

And what proof is there that she was UNDERAGE?

[blondeatlast]

72. I don't need a law to tell me what's vile. And Woody's behavior is dirty-old-man creepy

and vile.

[mkultra]

113. He helped raise her and then he married her

Sorry but that's perverted. he and Mia had one child together and adopted two. Mia had two adopted children already. Mia and he broken up because he had an affair with Mia's daughter Soon-Yi.

[Gormy Cuss]

132. She is his children's sister. He had had a long term relationship with her mother .

Those facts are conveniently omitted from your defense of Allen. Both of those reasons are enough to raise eyebrows about the appropriateness of his behavior.

Woody Allen Tells of Affair as Custody Battle Begins
By RICHARD PEREZ-PENA
Published: March 20, 1993 New York Times


Mr. Allen, 57 years old, said that when he embarked on a sexual relationship with Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, 22, who was adopted by Ms. Farrow and her former husband, Andre Previn, he had hoped to keep it secret from Ms. Farrow and their three children. He also admitted giving little thought to how the affair would affect the children.

"At the very outset, it didn't occur to me that this would be anything but a private thing," he said.

....
When asked by Acting Justice Elliott Wilk whether he thought of the effect it would have on the other children, Mr. Allen said, "I felt nobody in the world would have any idea."

Justice Wilk asked, "Wasn't that enough, that you would know that you were sleeping with your children's sister?"

Mr. Allen answered: "I didn't see it that way. I'm sorry."

[Goblinmonger]

142. Interesting wording

that invokes images of degenerates that have children with their own children.

Too bad that isn't the case. There is no genetic connection between his children and her. There is really no indication he functioned/served as her father.

But don't let that get in your way.

[cliffordu]

15. Yep - He's been made to live in France and fuck teenage starlets.

Bummer.

[Joanne98]

16. I thought this was The Onion for a moment.

[Dinger]

21. So Did I (nt)

[Wetzelbill]

17. that is just weird

You'd think somebody with Woody's questionable actions with his step-daughter would just stay away from something like this.

[seabeyond]

19. uh... no he hasnt. that is the WHOLE issue. dummy woody. nt

[blondeatlast]

20. In Woody's defense, at least he gave an opinion on something he knows about. OTOH, I think lunch is

out for me today.

Yuck.

[ShortnFiery]

22. Roman Polanski to Woody Allen: Stop trying to help me! eom

[Skidmore]

23. Ugh. And ick.

Yuck. Gag.

[Cetacea]

24. Will BP?

[Barack_America]

27. Fellow Pedophiles for Polanski.

Ain't that just precious?

[Goblinmonger]

89. Woody Allen isn't a pedophile. n/t

[elehhhhna]

137. True. He's just a girlfiend's-teenaged daughter-fucker. Happy now?

[Taverner]

29. With all due respect, Mr, Allen, I beg to differ

Gratned there are nuances in the case, much to the chagrin of the "keel haul the bastard" crowd

But no, he has't served a day of time.

[Berry Cool]

34. There are no nuances.

Woody, and you, are wrong.

[Taverner]

40. Um, whatever

I wish I could be as myopic as you and view everything as "bad" or "good"

Maybe I could walk around calling anyone I don't like an "evildoer" and see every single act as some battle between good and evil

:eyes:

[tammywammy]

33. He fled before sentencing, that's means he didn't pay for what he's done. n/t

[Tutankhamun]

37. Why do disgusting little twerps like Woody Allen make films

about their creepy sex lives? Yuck!!!!! And Roman Polanski needs to go to jail for a long time for drugging and raping a child.

Edited to add I figured "Woody" was a perv before the whole stepdaughter scandal.

[verges]

39. Huh?

Don't confuse Woody's films and character with his actual character or reality.

[Tutankhamun]

42. He plays a whiny, neurotic, insecure twerp.

In real life, he's NONE of these things.

:sarcasm:

[verges]

45. Have you met him? Do you know him?

They are make believe! Movies!
:eyes:

[Donnachaidh]

44. nah, he's not at all like the character he's played in ALL his movies, which he wrote

:rofl:

One note Woody -- playing the neurotic little Jewish guy is all he can do, evidently. :rofl:

[verges]

47. Ans Stallone is the all-American hero.

And Keaton never smiled.
And Jerry Lewis really is the whiny stuid guy.

When you find a formula that works, you stay with it.

Hint: Movies are NOT reality.

[me b zola]

103. "Hint: Movies are NOT reality"

If they were, then Allen's movies would have been about incestuous pedophiles. We agree on something!

[Tutankhamun]

50. Exactly. He's not at all drawing from his life.

In real life he's a brash, in-your-face MMA fighter with a reputation for sweeping the ladies off their feet with his cocky, self-assured street rap, animalistic body language and terminally hip wardrobe.

(cue shaft music)

[Taverner]

43. Because people like me pay to see them

And enjoy them even....

[Tutankhamun]

46. People used to pay to see them anyway.

That doesn't make them worthwhile. People payed to see Britney Spears and N' Sync. Dennis Miller was a popular comedian. Barry Manilow made a fortune!

[Taverner]

48. But Woody Allen is a brilliant filmmaker

And he still makes great movies - its just that most people aren't intellent enough to enjoy them

[verges]

49. Yeah, he is.

They may not appeal to you. But that's okay. Popularity doesn't necessarily equate with quality.

Using your metric, "Jackass the Movie" could be considered high quality!

[Tutankhamun]

54. I would like to cal a truce here. I did, in fact, enjoy "Jackass".

Ok? I admit it. I'm not proud of it, but I did like it. I will now stop bashing Woody Allen for being such an untalented loser and a has-been.

[verges]

55. And I'll forgive you for being an

ignorant, unsophisticated boob.

[Tutankhamun]

61. This from the person who still uses the word "boob" as a pejorative.

[verges]

62. You're now going to get upset about word choice?

My...you are an idiot.


*Is that better?

[Tutankhamun]

71. Yes. Thank you!

[verges]

74. Sure. Whatever.

[blondeatlast]

84. You funny. nt

[blondeatlast]

75. But I won't forgive you for acting like a petulant, judgmental, snobbish, superior

sphincter. I shouldn't have to forgive poor behavior. Now if you really WERE a judgmental, snobbish, superior sphincter, I might have to forgive you.

fortunately that can't be proven, so I don't need to forgive you.

[verges]

77. Please cite examples. nt

[blondeatlast]

83. Why? can't figure it out for yourself?

You're amusing, at least.

[verges]

120. Nope. Not seeing it...

Burden of proof should be with the accuser. So, please cite examples.

[blondeatlast]

82. Edit: wrong place. nt

[Tutankhamun]

51. I haven't heard that "people aren't smart enough to like Woody Allen" argument in ages.

After all these years, people are turned off by him and his obvious lack of depth and versatility. He's been done to death by himself.

[Taverner]

53. Hey, not my fault you don't like dialogue-heavy movies

Or films without large explosions and things going BOOM

[Goblinmonger]

91. MAYBE you could argue versatility

but his depth is certainly there.

[verges]

123. Versatility is there.

What's Up Tiger Lily
Sleeper
Love and Death
Interiors
Shadows and Fog
Annie Hall
Radio Day's
Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
Celebrity
Zelig

Pretty wide range there. And that's incomplete and just as a director.

[Scout]

58. hahahaha you made a typo while calling other people ignorant: "intellent" n/t

[Taverner]

59. I nead a good beeting now :(

[Tutankhamun]

63. I love "intellent" films.

[seabeyond]

65. the only movie i ever walked out of in a theater was annie. i dont know i have watched any of his

movies.

[verges]

69. "Annie" was a John Huston film.

I believe it was his only musical. Not his best.

[seabeyond]

78. annie hall. sorry, forgot the whole title. wasnt that the name of it? nt

[verges]

81. That;s what I figured.

That's actually one of my favorites. But if that's not your cup o' tea, I might recommend "Radio Days" or "What's Up Tiger Lily" Or perhaps "Hannah and her Sisters" or "Don't Drink the Water". He's made many films in many different styles. Not all are good, or to everyone's taste. But many of them are worthwhile.

[LanternWaste]

134. Many people see a valid, precise and relevant difference...

Many people see a valid, precise and relevant difference between the artist and the art created.
E.g., I enjoy the works of many classical compsoers despite their personal proclivities.

So I imagine that despite how one may or may not judge the artist, the art stands on its own-- regardless of whether we may minimize, or even deny that.

[emilyg]

64. Shut up Woody.

[supernova]

66. A Rec from Woody

will not do Polanski any favors.

For the record, I used to like certain films, but lately he's just rehashing the familiar, except now he's geriatric. Whoopie!

[rug]

80. Wow, that headline is condensed flamebait.

And it's playing out pretty much as expected.

[earth mom]

85. Woody Allen is nothing but a pedo himself. He needs to shut the fuck up!

I haven't watched a single one of his movies since he married his daughter. :puke:

[Goblinmonger]

92. Well

a. not a pedophile
b. not his daughter
c. not even his step-daughter
d. not even living in the same house as her when he dated Mia

Don't let any of that get in the way, though.

[Nye Bevan]

94. Yes. It's just fine for a man to marry his common-law wife's adoptive daughter.

Everyone should leave poor Woody alone.

[Goblinmonger]

96. Did he ever live in the same house as her?

Answer: No.

Does New York have "common-law" marriages?
Answer: No.

You are making it sound like Woody lived in the same house as this girl and raised her as his daughter from the time she was 5 and that is not even close to the truth.

[efhmc]

141. The truth is that this man is a nasty little creep. Found him to

be that way long before his pedophilia event.

[Nye Bevan]

93. but, but, but... *technically* she was the *adopted* daughter of Mia Farrow

and since Woody and Mia never actually tied the knot during their 12-year relationship, that makes it just fine, according to some DUers earlier in this thread.

And who better than someone who married his lover's daughter to opine on the appropriate punishment for a man who plied a 13-year old girl with Qaaludes and champagne and then anally raped her?

[Goblinmonger]

98. She actually had an adoptive father

Check her last name if you don't know who that was.

Who better to opine on the relationship between Woody and Mia's daughter than you? Who better to make up facts about what really happened?

[Nye Bevan]

99. OK. We get it.

You think it's fine for a man to have a 12-year relationship with a woman and seduce and marry her daughter. And technically and legally you may be correct (*Adoptive* daughter! *Didn't* actually marry Farrow!) But morally his behavior was despicable, and I am happy to see that the vast majority of DUers posting in this thread agree with me.

[Goblinmonger]

100. But the leap you are making is that

there is no indication that he ever functioned as a father to Soon-Yi and that there was ever a relationship while she was underage.

[Odin2005]

104. One pervert defending another? how typical!

:puke:

[marmar]

108. Honor among pervs.....

nt

[proteus_lives]

110. Polanski hasn't even begun to pay for what he's done.

Woody can go fuck himself.

[salin]

129. yikes what a shocker... not.

[efhmc]

135. Yeah, right I am going to take that little creep's moral

assessment of ANYTHING!!!

[AnArmyVeteran]

136. Didn't Charles Manson say that about John Wayne Gacy? :)

"Hey, he's a good guy, just a little misunderstood is all."

[madokie]

139. No doubt in woody eyes

fuck the both of them sideways and twice on sundays

[RainDog]

140. ...

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[LaPera]

143. Judgemental assholes-Dont know what the fuck they are taking about-But they love to point the finger

at others....As if they are oh, so moral themselves, what assholes,....Look at your own discretions....No, why? uh, because you're fucking perfect?

As if an older man never married a younger woman, especially in the entertainment industry. Get fucking real!

Woody Allen never married nor even lived with Mia Farrow, ever!

Allen certainly was NEVER the adopted Soon-Yi Previn's stepfather not even close.

Even Soon-Yi Previn's actual stepfather Andre Previn has stated that Allen was never a father figure to Soon-Yi...NEVER, get it?

At the time the relationship began Allen was 56 and Previn was 22 -

They fell in love....

Then after five years of the relationship when Allen, was 62, and Previn, was 27 - they got married.

AND today Woody & Soon-Yi are still married, going on 23 fucking years of marriage, and still very much in love, as many friends have attested to.

Farrow was a scorned woman, as well as one crazy lying vindictive woman!

Yet, the ignorant morons want to point their hypocritical moral or scorned or jealous fingers....

Exactly like republicans, they never want to look at the facts nor are they capable of even seeing that all the bullshit they heard and believed through the years was in fact bullshit purported by an absolutely and obviously scorned vindictive woman....

No, they prefer to point their phony moralistic fingers because they think it makes them look better to themselves and others.

Let's all mind our own business I'm sure we all have a few things we've done in our lifetime that we wouldn't want the whole world to know about & focus on....Now let's all shut the fuck up!

Still, the truly ignorant dumb fucks will continue to go on & on trying to find & prove some little things was not right as they've heard or read - Just like fucking lying republicans, dense and ignoring most facts....Watch!