GRAPH: NBC/WSJ Poll shows public knows ''moderate'' Democrats are really just corrupt

[yurbud]

http://pollingreport.com/business.htm

You can't win by being known as the slightly less, but still mostly corrupt party.

Republicans have established a reliable brand. When people vote for them they know they will get certain things: deregulation, cuts in social spending, tax cuts and favors for the wealthy, war, beating up on minorities, unions, and public education.

You can disagree with those ideas but you roughly know what you're getting when you vote for them.

Democrats have a divided brand. Some members will fight for the opposite of the GOP agenda, some will fight FOR a lot of the GOP agenda, and some will claim to fight for the opposite then actually vote for it. The result is a public perception like the one in this poll. Rather than seeing the Democratic Party as composed of corrupt and idealistic elements, the party as a whole is tarred with the brush of their corrupt members, though on a curve, they get a better grade than Republicans.

That is the Rahm Emanual, DLC way, but even when it occasionally wins elections, it makes races that should be landslides nailbiters or even losses.

And when we do win, too many Democrats neuter that victory by siding with the GOP on the big issues.

We can stop this if we keep moving into the party structure, refusing to accept self-dealing corporate candidates, and refusing to listen to the dire but false warnings about handing elections to the GOP if we run primary challengers against corporate-owned pols. At worst, the primary challengers push the corrupt to be more progressive on some issues as has happened with Blanche Lincoln, Jane Harman, and others.

OK, that's not the worst. The worst is Joe Lieberman, who didn't change at all because the corrupt elements of the party circled their wagons around him. That will change when they don't have enough wagons to make a circle.

We must change this or we will start to have ''what the fuck'' voting like they just had in Britain. When there is too little difference between the parties, and all of them are pursuing the same policies on key issues like foreign policy, trade, and economics, people are more likely to forget to vote or vote solely on hot button issues like guns, gays, and god here.

[TwilightGardener]

1. So..."moderate" necessarily equals "corrupt"?

[yurbud]

4. with rare exception--can you think of one?

[TwilightGardener]

9. Are you talking only of politicians, or of voters as well? I consider myself moderate.

[yurbud]

11. politicians only! Of course there are voters with all kinds of sincere beliefs

[Bitwit1234]

2. Gee whiz...

another fair and balanced report from WSJ which is owned by Fox. tsk tsk are they trying to make people believe Democrats are republicans? I think so.

[yurbud]

5. some are, and those few muddy the reputation of the rest.

[Autumn]

3. Sometimes it is hard to tell the

difference between a ''moderate''Democrat and a republican.:shrug: Kind of like being a little bit pregnant.

[Quantess]

6. I would have voted

overwhelmingly for the massive corporate interests on all three. It would look like three giant blue stacks, with very little beige.

[AndyA]

7. So much for the "vote for me, I'm not quite as bad as a Republican" theory.

Blue Dogs need to go. DINOs need to go.

You can't walk down the middle of the road forever. Eventually, you come across a bridge support and have to go either right or left.

Vote. Them. Out.

Bye, Blanche.

[pinto]

8. Poll, fwiw, asks / states nothing about corruption.

:shrug:

[yurbud]

12. why else would pols care more about corporations than the people who voted for them?

[Scuba]

10. The reason for the Democrats....

...is so that there is no alternative to the Republicans.