Is the DLC deliberately trying to throw the 2010 election & lower the Congressional majority?

[Sebastian Doyle]

First you had a pathetic lukewarm candidate who couldn't bother to even campaign for Ted Kennedy's seat. Then Evan Bayh times his "retirement" announcement to prevent any possibility of a REAL candidate being found to replace him. Now after selling out health care and financial reform, Chris Dodd is moving onto "greener pastures" and leaving a serial liar DLC clown to run in his place.

I have said on many occasion that the entire existence of the DLC is nothing more than a Republican infiltration into the Democratic party with the purpose of destroying it from within. But in this election cycle it seems like they're abandoning the pretense altogether. Are they deliberately taking a dive, in hopes that the Repukes regain Congress, and then they have a failsafe excuse NOT to do anything in the best interests of the American people?

[Mojeoux]

1. I don't hate the DLC, I pity the fools.

They better not fuck up this mid term election.

[laughingliberal]

2. I don't know but it does look that way, at times.

Put it together with the liberal bashing and it begins to look like a voter suppression effort. More Republicans in Congress means more chances to move the country to the right while blaming the other party.

[polichick]

3. You make a good case for Republican infiltration...

Either that or they are hopelessly out of touch.

[tritsofme]

4. It's always nice to have a boogeyman to blame your problems on. nt

[fascisthunter]

16. like Bin Laden

[WeDidIt]

5. Other

The Radical Left is trying to throw the election. The fools don't realize that the Democratic Party's reaction to election loss is ALWAYS move to the right.

They do this by labeling anything and everything "DLC".

[Sebastian Doyle]

6. You mean that's the DLC's reaction

Actual Democrats don't believe that horseshit. Fact is, the further to the right this party goes, the more traditional Democrats are alienated from voting. :evilfrown:

[WeDidIt]

7. There is no DLC

For all intents and purposes, it is dead.

And you have NO RIGHT trying to say who is and is not a Democrat.

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[PufPuf23]

20. Are you suggesting that the "New" Democrats are the definitive norm and

an undeclared battle of control for the Democratic Party is over?

The DLC started out with the mission statement of redefining the Democratic Party away from the traditional constituencies and towards the corporate finance and MIC sectors.

Is this a declaration of victory against the majority of people that want to live a secure and productive life?

I will finish re-reading "They Thought They were Free" by Milton Mayer tonight as I am to the last chapter. I read the book first as a junior in HS in 1969-1970 and the perspective is timeless.

Neo-liberalism and Neo-Conservatism are both neo-Fascism and not in a Goodwin's sense but reality.

We spend over 50% of our Federal budget on the military and practice pre-emptive war, torture, and other war crimes that we ( the USA) righteously and correctly subjected to capital punishment at Nuremberg plus much ham-handed, good but pragmatic forgiveness to the German citizen. The occupations of the new wars are similar but not as successful.

[WeDidIt]

21. I'm saying the DLC has no money

and has been broke for about six years now.

They have nothing.

For all intents and purposes, the DLC no longer exists.

As a movement, they lost shortly after the 2004 election.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

[PufPuf23]

25. The DLC achieved their objectives. Why exist?

Obama distance himself from the DLC but has declared himself a "New" Democrat.

Policy direction is DLC / "New" Democrat / Neo-Liberal in general.

I supported and still support Obama as the best choice but hope and hoped for much better.

Why the need for apologists against the Party platform and FDR's statement of human rights on the Democratic Underground?

Creepy to me but then the internet is creepy and yet a most informing media (for now).

Why slime me with the conspiracy theory label?

I am educated, experienced, and old.

[stray cat]

8. And Obama wants to take away your guns and lock you up in an internment camp

The tea party isn't much different in their extreme paranoia and blame games than elements of the rest of the country

[Sebastian Doyle]

10. er.... thanks for kicking the thread

..though I don't have a fucking clue what your response has to do with the subject. :rofl:

[WeDidIt]

11. He's saying your paranoid delusion is as nutty as the teabaggers

and you didn't get it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Yeah, when they're not busy faking the moon landing and hiding Obama's birth certificate.

[Sebastian Doyle]

13. The DLC hid Obama's birth certificate?

Actually that might have made sense during the 2008 primaries, when it appeared Hillary was their candidate. Not so much now though.

But thanks for playing.

[Robb]

14. Who is this Rahm guy?

...and where do I send my copyright infringement papers? :D

[Sebastian Doyle]

15. Sorry Robb

I didn't think you wanted to be the dingbat in a DLC poll :evilfrown:

[democraticinsurgent]

17. Disagree on Bayh

His departure strategy may have screwed the primary for D's but he also effectively froze out formidable R's such as Mike Pence, which resulted in the nomination of a very weak nominee on the Republican side, Dan Coats.

Meanwhile the D's handpicked Congressman Ellsworth as their candidate. He's culturally conservative, but has as good of a chance to retain the seat as any D in the state. IMHO.

[Jack Rabbit]

18. While Bush was in power, who could tell for sure if that wasn't their strategy?

I honestly thought before the 2004 election that they would propose a national unity ticket of Bush-Lieberman or something.

[Sebastian Doyle]

19. Well, there were some (even here) proposing a Kerry-McCain "unity ticket"

And that wouldn't have been much better.

[depakid]

22. Hard to see how they could have acted much differently even if they were

They're a pathetic bunch- bolstered only by the fact that Republicans have gone insane.

[sufrommich]

23. I heard the DLC were on the grassy knoll the day

Kennedy was shot.:crazy:

[Sebastian Doyle]

28. Well, we know one of Bill Clinton's best buddies was there.

[dumpdabaggers]

24. Obama's job will be easier with a GOP Congress.

Just like with Clinton, they can no longer just say no. People expect results.

[brooklynite]

26. Unrec'd

If you're going to try to spin this yarn, please offer some evidence that the DLC was behind the choice of candidates.

[Sebastian Doyle]

30. It's common knowledge that the DLC's client agencies control the primaries

It was more blatant when Rahm & Schumer were running the DSCC/DCCC and openly opposing Howard Dean's 50 state strategy. Less obvious with the DNC under DLC occupation again, as it was with Rendell and McUseless.

[KonaKane]

27. Can you tell me why Democrats would purposely throw any election?

Because frankly, you didn't make that case in your OP.

[Sebastian Doyle]

29. As Bill C would say

"That depends on what your definition of Democrats is".

If you accept my theory that the DLC exists to infiltrate the Democratic party and destroy it from within, then it makes perfect sense that they would use any tactic available to further that goal.

We, the people. We, the Democratic voters, elected a Democratic majority to both houses of Congress in 2006. The excuse given for the next two years was that the majorities were not large enough to overcome Repuke dirty tricks. So in 2008, we the people increased those majorities, and gave them a Democratic President to sign their bills.

Yet they STILL refused to act. And made more excuses, And after bullshitting for over a year about it, gave us a "health care reform bill" that (like the DLC itself) was Democratic in name only.

Downside for them is that the people realize they have been had. And they can't hide behind the excuses anymore. So since the theoretical "majority" no longer serves their purposes, they would rather revert to the 1994 DLC strategy and let the Repukes have Congress again, so they can all vote for right wing bullshit happily again, and blame it on the admitted Republicans.