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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:45 PM
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Huffingtonpost NY Editor calls new Miss USA a whore
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:47 PM
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1. Pretty damned sexist comment - he should be fired.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:51 PM
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2. we have gone from be subjugated to being whore.... one need only look and listen
Edited on Tue May-18-10 09:51 PM by seabeyond
to see men all around us treating us and talking about and to us just like.

so many go willingly.

i am not even outraged anymore. it has become a norm. mainstreamed
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:55 PM
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3. Yes you
obviously know all about men. We are all like that. But speaking for myself I like whores.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:57 PM
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4. where did i say ALL men? nt
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:59 PM
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5. no mam
you did not say it just implied it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:01 PM
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6. no, i did not imply it. you inaccurately interpreted. nt
Edited on Tue May-18-10 10:03 PM by seabeyond
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:02 PM
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7. Peace n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:04 PM
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9. backatcha. nt
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:03 PM
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8. He should be fired.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:15 PM
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10. This is the prize she won in 2007.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:16 PM
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11. So?
?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:24 PM
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13. So, the only difference between the Miss USA contest and this one is the amount of cash involved.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:26 PM
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16. Ahh, I see
So you have no problem calling this lovely young woman a whore?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:29 PM
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17. Not unless you have a problem calling Trump a pimp.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:34 PM
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18. Well, my dear
Personally, I'm fairly sick of shame labels. I am tired of prudes clucking their tongues every time a woman dares to be free with her sexuality. I gave myself this nickname as an expression of pride because I've pretty much had it with certain people and their supposed "morality".

But you go right ahead with your bad self. I won't stop you.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:36 PM
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19. No clucking here, my dear.
Say hi to the Donald for me.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:38 PM
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20. Wow, you're labeling this woman a whore,
Though she performed no actual sexual act, and was pretty well clothed for a pole contest.

I suppose you must think that Demi Moore is a whore as well for her act during the movie Striptease.

Or do you just think that any woman who displays a sexuality that you disapprove of is a whore?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:43 PM
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21. Really?
You should read more carefully.

What you are missing in this fiasco is the millions of dollars Trump, CBS and corporate sponsors are making off this "pageant".

What exactly is the purpose and message of the Miss USA contest, a wholly owned subsidiary of Trump enterprises?

The best antidote for labels is a little thought.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:54 PM
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28. So it's about the money involved?
Money + good looking woman = whore?

Again, the movie Striptease. It made over fifty million dollars profit for Castle Rock and Columbia pictures. Are they whores? Is Demi a whore for being in it? What?

Sorry, but I think that labeling Miss USA a whore for participating in a clothed pole dancing contest is rather, well, Southern Baptist of you.

If I'm misreading where you're coming from on this, explain it to me.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:56 PM
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It is about sexism. Do you or do you not consider this beauty contest exploitive
and demeaning to women and girls?
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:40 PM
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69. The way to fight sexism is not by calling women "whores."
Yes, beauty pageants are sexist. No shit, Sherlock. But offensive slut-shaming language is NOT going to make it any better, ever.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:22 PM
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12. Your point?
If you have one. :eyes:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:25 PM
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14. It's just above your rolling eyes.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:44 PM
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22. Ahh, so you are a sexist asshole, at least we cleared that up! n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:45 PM
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24. You require no adjective.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:51 PM
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26. That's very Catholic of you...
So quick to judge this woman for being liberated, yet not your own Church for far worse sins.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:53 PM
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27. Hey dipshit, the post is about Trump, not your pet peeves.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:56 PM
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29. Actually
This post is about a Huffington post editor calling Rima Fakih a whore. You're the one who is evading the fact that you agreed with David Weiner.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:00 PM
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34. And my point is that the nature of this pageant is per se sexist.
Don't start an OP if you don't want to discuss its implications.

Or do you not find "Miss U.S.A." sexist?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:01 PM
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37. Keep evading
You're doing so well!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:03 PM
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40. Silly me. I thought I asked you a rather direct question.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:05 PM
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43. And I asked you a direct question
But you decided that instead of answering that question you would take a convenient moral stance.

Isn't the Internet fun?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:10 PM
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46. Of course you didn't.
You asked a smarmy question about "this lovely young woman", not designed to elicit an honest answer.

Of course she's not a whore. She is a willing participant in an irredeemably sexist enterprise for her own aspirations. Which is actually worse.

Now answer my question.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:21 PM
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57. Well, golly
I'm just awful sorry I forced you to become so upset with mean old Miss USA that you decided to further promote the whore meme by posting that photo.

You know what? I don't give one single shit about the Miss USA pageant. Women face 100 times more sexist treatment from "women's" magazines and their local churches than they do from some stupid bathing suit show. At least a beauty pageant is relatively honest - it's a beauty pageant.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:25 PM
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62. Is that a yes or a no?
You've upset me so much I don't seem able to find a nonevasive answer in there.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:29 PM
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67. I neither support it nor do I condemn it
It is what it is. If someone wants to host it, women choose to enter it and people choose to watch it, that's no skin off my nose. It's the same way I feel about sports - I'm not interested. I don't care.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:56 PM
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30. I'm guessing you were breast fed through a straw.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:57 PM
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32. I'm guessing you were fed through an enema.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:59 PM
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33. Not enough hugs as a child, rug?
You seem tense tonight. :crazy:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:01 PM
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36. I had plenty. Now let's discuss your mother's nipples.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:02 PM
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38. So it's fantasy night for you then?
You should have just said so.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:05 PM
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42. It may become one but, sadly, it will contain neither you nor your mother's nipples.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:06 PM
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45. I doubt the dog is interested, rug.
Might have to settle for my mother's nipples.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:10 PM
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47. Nah, I'll take the dog.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:17 PM
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51. We know.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:20 PM
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53. Under the circumstances, it's the better choice.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:21 PM
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55. I think it's just your preference.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:23 PM
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58. Let's see, you offer a choice between your mother's nipples and a dog. Hmmmm.
Nope, same decision. Not to be too Zen about it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:24 PM
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61. Glad I didn't offer you my sheep.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:26 PM
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64. I don't like sloppy seconds. Sorry.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:53 PM
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70. Why, did your family already visit?
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:57 PM
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31. Actually its about an asshole calling Miss USA a whore, its not about Trump...
I do so apologize if I hit a nerve. :sarcasm:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:02 PM
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39. I'm glad you are a firm supporter of the Miss USA contest.
That's quite progressive of you.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:06 PM
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44. What's unprogressive about it?
Its superficial and vain to some people, sure, but there are a hell of a lot worse things in the world, like, oh, I don't know, lying about the effectiveness of Condoms in preventing the spread of AIDS in Africa. You know, shit that matters.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:12 PM
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48. I'm speechless.
Here, you relate better to smileys.

:rofl:
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:14 PM
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49. You get your panties in a bunch so much, and judge Miss USA as "worse than a whore"...
a paraphrase of your own words from a post above. So I think its fair to say that, under your own rules you are worse than a child molester. Just saying.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:18 PM
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52. He's so offended by the sexist nature of it that he agrees with a sexist.
He's all Zen tonight. ;)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:21 PM
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56. Enjoy the next Miss Teen USA pageant.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:26 PM
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63. I prefer fully developed adults, just an fyi, of course, your priest prefers them young. n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:27 PM
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65. I see. This thread is about . . . priests.
Enjoy your pageants.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:29 PM
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66. Actually, its about you, I just enjoy needling you about your Church...
a source of amusement as it were, of course, also a source of hypocrisy on your part, but you are blind to that. "Judge not, less ye be Judged", and also something about a plank in your eye.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:31 PM
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68. Very forthright of you to admit your trollish behavior.
Not that it's news.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:54 PM
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71. Says the paragon of diplomacy.
:rofl:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:25 PM
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15. you've got to hand it to Trump
Two years in a row he's been able to get a nationally-covered controversy...What will he come up with next?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:45 PM
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23. Twitter is becoming almost as effective as facebook for the outing of the stupid.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:48 PM
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25. How do you unregister with HuffPo? This is the last straw.
Their content has goe downhill, Arianna is more and more un-impressing me as a privileged little satin bed blogger, and their site almost always crashes my browser. This cuts it. Fuck em.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:24 PM
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60. I second this emotion
I rarely visit the place but checked out the commenting system last week. The badge concept they've rolled out has pellet-feeder written all over it. It's more about clicks than content. No offense to the few DUers who have blogged for them. You guys are great, Arianna is the problem.
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:00 PM
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35. Asshole
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:03 PM
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41. If Miss USA had blond hair and blue eyes, would he still say it?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:16 PM
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50. Miss USA is just a stupid beauty pageant anyway.
I think they should skip the pretense of it being anything other than a skin parade. Spare us the talent portion, spare us the speech. The contestants should be judged on their looks only, and maybe a pole dancing competition.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:58 PM
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72. +1
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:20 PM
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54. The Huff Post has gone down in standard lately
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:23 PM
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59. he should resign
what an ignorant, boorish comment!

there is no excuse for that
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:02 AM
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73. Are they talking about Sarah Palin??
Edited on Wed May-19-10 12:02 AM by Angry Dragon
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