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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:22 PM
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Looks Like A Good Night For Dr. Dean
"We all voted for change we can believe in. If we don't get it, we'll get some more change in 2010"
- Howard Dean
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:24 PM
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1. Amen to that!
A toast to the only LEADER this party had in the past decade. :toast:

God, do we ever need him back now!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:26 PM
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2. I'll 2nd that!
:toast:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:26 PM
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3. This was a good night for President Obama and the Democratic Party
Sestak is going to be a solid Democrat in the Senate. First, winning the GE.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:29 PM
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4. sshhhhhh The MSM is trying to hide that information
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:30 PM
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5. Ever Notice That The Candidates Obama Backs Usually Lose?
Think its because Obama has a thing for underdogs?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:31 PM
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6. Really? The Dems have won 7 straight House special elections since Obama became President

You want to keep rehashing Scott Brown over Martha Coakley, be my guest.

That's the ONE GOP win since Obama began his term.


One.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:33 PM
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9. that had more to do with Coakley going on vacation and saying
she didn't need to campaign.

any other Dem would have easily won.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:37 PM
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14. I Don't Believe That's The Case
Democratic turn out was light, Republican turnout was heavy, and the center went for Brown.
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:34 PM
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46. Coakley lost that election through total ineptitude.
If she had run a half decent campaign she would have won.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:34 PM
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11. Coakley, Corzine, Deeds, Specter, Lincoln...
Must be that he likes underdogs. That's it.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:37 PM
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13. I really don't think Obama minds that Specter lost

Obama just went through the motions in supporting him, just to keep his end of the deal.


As for Lincoln... she fought against Obamacare... I don't think he'll miss her.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:09 AM
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32. Obama was on TV, 24/7, proclaiming his "love" for Arlen Specter.
People knew he was the president's candidate, and voted against him anyway.

It's a loss for the WH political team, at the very least.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:51 PM
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47. The primary was about the candidates, not Obama.
Pennsylvania Democrats have a long history of voting AGAINST Specter.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:33 PM
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8. How does Sestak's win impact the President's agenda? n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:51 PM
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19. You mean like how he's going to back Sestak in the general?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:14 PM
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27. I Guess We'll See! nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:52 PM
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20. Should Obama have not backed Coakley, Deeds, and Corzine?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:06 PM
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24. He Actively Campaigned For Them - and Bupkes
Edited on Tue May-18-10 11:09 PM by MannyGoldstein
Recently, Mass. Rep Nikki Tsongas was interviewed by the NY Times:

If the suddenly crowded field is not enough by itself to suggest that Ms. Tsongas may be vulnerable, consider this: she demurred recently in an interview when asked if she wanted President Obama to campaign for her.

“I have great respect for our president,” she said.

But would he help or hurt her campaign?

“I can’t say one way or the other,” she said. “We will cross that bridge when the time comes.”

When a Democratic incumbent equivocates over a visit by a sitting Democratic president who won the state lopsidedly, it cannot be a good sign.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/14/us/politics/14tsongas.html
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:10 PM
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25. You didnt really answer the question.
Should he not have backed three Democratic nominees?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:15 PM
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28. Yes. It Was The Actively-Campaigning Part I Should Have Mentioned
My bad.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:07 PM
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43. I wouldn't call GS and BP underdogs.
I don't have a suitably vicious insulting noun yet, working on it.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:33 PM
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7. One of Obama's candidates lost- the other's forced into a runoff
Not such a good result for the administration's preferences.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:35 PM
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12. These are not the droids you are looking for. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:38 PM
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15. That's all that matters, isn't it?
Sestak is going to vote with Democrats. I'm sure the President is distraught.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:57 PM
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23. Of course not- just pointing out an objective fact
His preferences didn't win tonight. That's not to say that we're all not the better for it.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:48 PM
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17. That is why he should never put his political capital on primary races. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:52 PM
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21. Presidents support incumbents in the primaries.
To you get all bent out of shape when incumbents do win primaries?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:54 PM
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22. Since when?
LOL- since never.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:12 PM
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26. Only can imagine what "ignored" is hollering about.
Whatever lol!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:16 PM
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29. Basic politics.
Lulz.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:07 AM
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31. You are probably serious, but...
Edited on Wed May-19-10 10:02 AM by freddie mertz
Pardon me if I find your effort at spin in this case to be PURE COMEDY GOLD!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Every voter in this state who cast their vote for Sestak KNEW they were voting AGAINST Obama's personally endorsed candidate.

It was a loss for the pathetic and flawed political "strategy" of this White House, and everyone knows it.

Even you, I suspect.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:38 AM
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37. "Dean thinks Sestak is a Democrat in the mold of Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) -- a centrist "
At the same time, Dean thinks Sestak is a Democrat in the mold of Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) -- a centrist who was elected in 2006 in part thanks to online progressives supporting and funding his candidacy until it attracted national attention. "New progressives are the old centrists. Conway and Sestak will be pretty damn appealing to the middle of the road," Dean said. "Joe is a bit of an iconoclast and that's what you want in a race like this. Joe is a centrist with conviction politics."

link


I'd love to see more progressives in the Senate. I'll accept more Democrats, but I'm not going to pretend a moderate Democrat is a progressive.

"Every voter is this state who cats their vote for Sestak KNEW they were voting AGAINST Obama's personally endorsed candidate."

Woo hoo, we won another strong supporter of the President's agenda, including his Afghanistan policy.

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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:05 AM
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38. I consider him a centrist as well, or a "mainstream" democrat.
The WH-Rendell role in trying to 1. deny my state a primary choice in the first place and 2. bully us into voting for the guy they made a deal with had little to do with ideology.

It had everything to do with business as usual (sleazy), insider politics.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:13 AM
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40. "The WH-Rendell role in trying to 1. deny my state a primary choice in the first place" Really?
You had a primary choice, and now you're celebrating that win.

Democracy works. Yay!

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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:23 AM
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41. Everyone knows that Rendell-Obama tried to force Sestak OUT of the race.
It's something everyone here knows about, and was a factor in his victory.

That and the total failure of Specter's campaign, of course.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 05:25 PM
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49. This is just too much for "some" to admit.
Its like when Pee-Wee Herman fell off his bike in front of a crowd of pre-pubescent girls.
He jumped up and said, "I meant to do that!"

Same thing.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:34 PM
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10. Hear! Hear!
People vote for the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:32 AM
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42. Damn straight!
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:47 PM
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16. Voters are sending DLC a message!
:applause:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:48 PM
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18. Joe Sestak is probably "DLC"
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 08:49 AM
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30. If he is/was..
he wasn't very obedient when he was asked to stand down and let the "chosen" canidate run unobstructed.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:11 AM
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33. Well said good doctor!
:applause:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:18 AM
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34. Sestak On Obama Call: 'He Couldn't Have Been Nicer'

Sestak On Obama Call: 'He Couldn't Have Been Nicer'

President Obama phoned Rep. Joe Sestak to congratulate him on the victory in Pennsylvania's Democratic Senate primary last night. Sestak (D-PA) said on CNN that Obama offered his full support despite being behind Sen. Arlen Specter during the primary.

Sestak said he was "gratified" by Obama's call, adding, "I want to be a strong ally of him, one of the strongest allies, but obviously not a yes man and I'm looking forward to this next election."

"Couldn't have been nicer," Sestak said.

Sestak told CNN, "He said, 'Congratulations, and Joe, I'm really there for you and I look forward to working with you and getting you in the United States Senate.'"

As we reported last night, Democrats close to the White House said there would be a smooth transition to backing Sestak.

A Democrat close to the White House said it's most likely that Obama advisers Patrick Gaspard and Jim Messina would reach out to Sestak to coordinate the formal endorsement.


It was a good night for Democrats.

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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 10:07 AM
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39. But a bad one for the WH-Rendell goon squad. nt.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:18 AM
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35. When Dean ran, he gave us hope for a better government ..
When he lost, that hope just remained, and that hope is his legacy..
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:32 AM
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36. Dr. Dean is an American hero!
Well said Dr. Dean!
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:11 PM
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44. K&+R
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 12:18 PM
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45. Dean never deserted the base the way this WH did.
When Obama chose Rahm the writing was on the wall.

People listen to Dean ...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:56 PM
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48. +1
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 05:25 PM
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50. Yup. Rahm and Geithner and Summers and LaHood and Leach and Duncan and
:grr:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 09:09 PM
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51. I still miss him as our DNC Chair
He rocked! :loveya: Howard!
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