Tony_FLADEM
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Wed May-19-10 12:14 PM
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Should Jack Conway run to the right of Rand Paul on foreign policy |
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Let me just state I agree with some of the things Ron Paul and his son say regarding foreign policy.
However, should Conway make Rand Paul seem weak on national defense by embracing more interventionist type policies or would this not work?
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Wed May-19-10 12:17 PM
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Stake out a clear position, stick to it. Ron Paul will bury himself mostly with an "extremist" label, doesn't really matter whether it's left or right.
If anything, I'd merely focus on the COST of these wars, in both human and monetary terms. Paul won't disagree, but will have to go to some extreme to differentiate himself.
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Wed May-19-10 12:18 PM
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2. funny, I don't think I agree with a single word |
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Ron or Rand has ever said.
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Wed May-19-10 12:24 PM
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7. Ron is against the war on drugs |
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I have to agree with him on that. He was against the war in Iraq, with which I also agree. I haven't taken the time to see where Rand stands on anything because I don't care.
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Wed May-19-10 12:27 PM
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9. Well now Ron Paul's view on the Drug War |
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still isn't the same as yours or mine. He wants to end all of it including the rehab, help and treatment aspect. He would be fine with folks shooting up and dieing in the streets.
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Wed May-19-10 12:32 PM
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12. If I had to choose between that and what we have now |
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I would choose that. I obviously don't share your view that legalizing drugs would result in everyone suddenly becoming a junkie and the streets lined with dead bodies. The addiction rate is pretty constant everywhere, regardless of whether drugs are legal or not.
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Wed May-19-10 04:18 PM
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13. "I obviously don't share your view that legalizing drugs would result in everyone.." |
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I know that putting words in other peoples mouths makes it easier to present an argument, but could you at least try to refrain from doing so?
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Wed May-19-10 05:02 PM
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14. You assumed that you and I shared a view of the war on drugs |
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What appeared to be your view, which I assumed from what you wrote about dying in the streets and what not, was that every adult who chooses to use drugs should not be prosecuted, but should instead be labeled "sick" and put into rehab, is not a view I share. Although I certainly think that rehab should be available for anyone that needs it. That was perhaps a misperception of your view on my part and I certainly apologize. As for making an argument, I didn't think I was really making one, just pointing out that perhaps we didn't share the exact same viewpoint. We are getting a little far afield here however. Back to the issue at hand, which is that Rand Paul in a loon.
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Wed May-19-10 12:26 PM
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8. I agree with Ron Paul on two items: |
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1. Anti-interventionist foreign policy.
2. Ending the war on drugs.
And probably so does a significant fraction of DU.
The rest of the Paul plank? Not so much.
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Wed May-19-10 12:31 PM
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11. Those two..and one more to agree with Paul on |
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ending corporate welfare..
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Wed May-19-10 12:18 PM
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3. Well, it is Kentucky after all. |
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That would play well and might devastate the GOP candidate.
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Wed May-19-10 12:20 PM
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that we're talking about a Democrat running to the right of a Republican on national defense?
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Wed May-19-10 12:21 PM
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5. Conway mostly needs to reveal what a whackjob Rand Paul is. |
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Wed May-19-10 12:24 PM
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6. I think Conway should run on the truth. |
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I don't get why politicians should be dishonest 'make Paul seem weak'. If he's right on an issue, why would we want to make him seem weak when that is an issue we want put forward also?
Conway should agree with Paul where he is right, people prefer honesty. They can see through political manipulation.
Imagine a candidate willing to say 'I agree with my opponent and respect his opinion on this issue. We all want what is best for this country. However, here's where I believe my opponent is wrong'.
Don't forget, Paul has attracted more than rightwingers and libertarians. He has also attracted anti-war Democrats. Those people could be won over as they too don't agree with Paul on everything and would be only too happy to find a Dem candidate who actually represents them.
How about we try doing what is right for a change. That would be a novel idea.
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Wed May-19-10 12:29 PM
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10. No, he should run the way he believes. Rand Paul is far right |
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Does not support the wars. I am sure he is giving the Neocons indigestion. How does he feel about Free Traders?????
Rand Paul has enough questionable beliefs on Domestic Policy.
The Disabilities Act is not a good law--it hurts business.
Pin him down on SS and Medicare.
Pin him down on Health Care. Passing any health care bill--Socialism therefore wrong.
The list goes on.
Who should take care of the poor????
Now, if the GOP gets a hold on him and tries to dress up that philospohy--- Be sure you still ask him pointed questions in public and bore in for an answer.
Very few Americans share this stark view.
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