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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 01:29 PM
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DeepWaterGate seems to be starting right on time!
It is looking like there may already be a bit of a government cover-up. (Reporters not allowed to visit beach under threat of arrest, under the authority of BP)

Now it is looking like we already have a cover-up of the cover-up, (Neither BP nor the U.S. Coast Guard, who are responding to the spill, have any rules in place that would prohibit media access to impacted areas ..... Rob Wyman, Lieutenant Commander, USCG, Deepwater Horizon Unified Command, Joint Information Center, Robert, LA)

It is possible that this is just a bit of SNAFU, but I am not holding my breath. I am rather hoping that this does not turn into an issue where our military is taking the hit, and we are paying the bill for the protection and enrichment of an oil company. Not that there isn't precedent for that.

Truth is, BP and the other companies involved need to pay for everything. Seriously everything. Payouts to share holders, should be frozen. Like we would with known terrorist organizations that have never done this kind of damage. Our government and military, really need to be on our side. Not the side of BP.


Remember, servicemen, just how well Halliburton treats you! The last thing you need to do is cover for Halliburton!


So if anyone has further evidence that might indicate that our government or military is concealing or disappearing evidence, I think it would be very interesting to hear.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 01:36 PM
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1. BP behavior
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8362544&mesg_id=8363228

They corralled the survivors after the accident and didn't let them even see their families until 17 (or up to 28?) hours later!

-90% Jimmy
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 02:53 PM
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4. IIRC Transocean was responsible for that action and not BP. nt
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 03:54 PM
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5. Since corporations are people, we should treat them as such.
Transocean, BP, Haliburton, all of them need to be arrested for murder, and destruction. This is like setting a wildfire really. Criminal destruction. Then let them out on bail, bail appropriate to their resources, bail large enough to cover everything. I mean everything. Then I think a court order for them to not leave town, you know, rename/sell/sellout. Then we need to look at their accomplices, the management who made all this possible. I think they need to take personal responsibility for every single thing they did.

Then they can argue among each other about who needs to repay who, and who is to blame. Let them sue each other for the damages they did to all of us and to the environment.

With the money available for fixing what they broke, I suspect our economy might just have a boom. With the punitive damages, we might be able to replace the need for oil from BP with wind and solar.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-10 02:25 PM
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8. Thank you for your clarification
I got the impression from 60 Minutes that Transocean is pretty good at respecting their employee's safety. It looks like pressure from BP exec's is what caused Transocean to make some unsafe calls that led to the spill?

-90% Jimmy
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 01:41 PM
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2. BP Needs To Be Broken UP
their executives need to be put in prison for life

you can go to prison for life for stealing bread under 3 strikes

but you can steal $Billions, destroy the environment, kill people, and then walk away scot free.

Did anyone high level from Exxon do any time? Of course not.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 02:14 PM
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3. To me ...
that is how a class-based system works. What class are the high-level people at Exxon in? What class, (though they might have none, in the classic sense) are the ruling families here in?

What class(es) are the rest of us in? How is justice served and too whom, and what determines how it is meted out? How obvious has it become recently? Who gets away with the crime, collects the booty and lives out their days without punitive action taken on them and in luxury, even? Why?

Is there some form of impenetrable facade that keeps us from collectively seeing that these high-profile crimes that are being perpetrated up-top are not new, nor are they aberrations in the system? I think the Great American Taboo centers around the myth that American culture is based on everything but what family you are in, what social status you have and your membership in exclusive social circles. Status determines your personal power, freedom and increase in wealth, as well as your ability to preserve those capabilities regardless of what befalls you.

I think they are, and will be, tolerated because of mass denial and the obscuring of one simple fact: it is not so much about rich and poor, (though it correlates) it is about a deeply entrenched class system that determines much of the policy and finances of this country. You could easily liken it to a caste-system though ours uses money more predominantly as the facade that obscures it.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 04:23 PM
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6. +1 and an independent inquiry is imperative; & not like the 9/11 commission
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-10 04:34 PM
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7. K&R please join me in emailing, calling DC nt
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