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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:06 AM
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If Democratic Leaders were Smart, they would SLAUGHTER republicans this Fall!!!
Edited on Fri May-21-10 02:07 AM by AnArmyVeteran
With all the ammunition given to the democratic party they should will almost every election, if they used their brains and had some guts. All this talk of democrats losing seats is a joke. If democrats capitalized on all of the outrageous mistakes by the republicans they should pick up seats. But they seem to be too inept and they will continue to allow themselves to be a whipping boy to the republican patty and allow them to control the message. But why? Isn't there one major spokesperson in the democratic party who has any guts? I know there are a handful, but the rest are total cowards who refuse to represent the people.

Democrats are squandering a golden opportunity. And if they choke and let republicans continue their insanity, then this country is doomed. With republican control of either house then we can say good bye to the United States. It's done...
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:16 AM
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1. Unfortunately, many voters ignore facts from the other side...
All that ammunition the Democrats have, those facts, are not even believed by voters in many states.

If the Republicans should win one or both houses it will be because the electorate believes what Republicans are saying, that Democrats are Socialists bent on destroying America, and that continued control of the U.S. by liberals means the end of the U.S.

Gingritch and the Tea Partiers are saying exactly that.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:26 AM
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3. There are a lot of creative ways to teach ignorant voters. But democrats seem to love loss.
I agree what everything you said. But the tea baggers and the zombies who listen to Fox News and right wing radio are a tiny portion of the electorate. If the leaders of the democratic party don't have the brains to outwit ignorant and illiterate hillbillies they deserve to lose. But their ineptness causes the rest of Americans to have to suffer the consequences of their stupidity, cowardice and ineptness.

I'm frankly tired of cowards as leaders. And I'm getting disappointed with President Obama who could be a hero by how for standing up to all the same industries which stole trillions from the American people. Is Obama terrified or something? There isn't a doubt in my mind that I would take command of my country and personally debunk every idiotic idea that the right wing comes up with. I like Obama but he has to show some guts and start representing the American people! He's even letting BP control our coast guard and he is the commander in chief. I would have banned every BP ship from the Gulf and had others cap the well off. If I saw any BP ship in the Gulf after I ordered them to flee I would seize their ships.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:33 AM
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4. I haven't seen any eveidence that most voters want to be taught anything.
For most Aemricans that vote, politics works like religion. These people believe in their side, believe what tha side says, and willing disbelief of what the other side says.

In my experience it isn't just a matter of showing people the information. Actually, voters react better to a appeal to emotion than an appeal to logic or inforation. I think the biggest aid to Democrats will be perceptons of the economy. If voters think it is doing well, they will side with Democrats. If they think it is doing poorly, they will elect Repulicans.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:45 AM
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10. Yeah, I agree with you about that, but democratic leadership had better find some guts...
There seem to always be at least 15% faithful followers in both extremes who will always vote more like a cult than a religious party. But there are a huge number of people in between who can be swayed either way. All the numbers I use are generalizations. I agree with you about employment and the economy being key to the election. But there are all those intangibles out there. And I wish democratic leaders would capitalize off of them during the election at least. Gaffe after gaffe, backtracking, stalling, flip flopping, fornicating, lying, and all the rest of the ammunition democrats could use to win elections.

I find it astounding how democrats let idiotic things, as from the tea baggers, become a part of the political debate. I know if I was a leader in the democratic party I would counter each idiotic idea immediately with the truth, and uproot the lie just like a person yanking out a weed in their lawn. I like President Obama and was a delegate for him, but he sat on the sidelines too long and allowed a mutant witches' brew of outrageousness to ferment when he could have debunked every right wing idea that floated to the surface.

We're in a different age. Technology always allows mass distribution of the latest lunacy seemingly overnight. But it's up to democratic leaders, including the president, to act like teachers and to attack those who dream up ridiculous claims. And attack them by name. If people weren't watching MSNBC at night they wouldn't even know about how the birthers or deathers got started. Why is the rest of the media so silent when obvious lies are being told. I already know that answer. They don't give a damn about truth. They love conflict, and when none exists, they create.

I agree with you about appealing to emotion. It's sad how ignorant most voters are. In the 1980s, Mike Royko, a Chicago writer, said only 1% of the voters know enough about the issues and candidates to make an informed vote. I believe he was absolutely correct. Most people don't even know who the vice president is. When I grew up everyone did. The dumbing down of America has left huge openings for illiterate lunatics (led by opportunistic corporations that are exploiting them) to take control of the political dialogue.



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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 04:50 AM
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9. The DLCers who run the White House are ignoring the facts.


They're not fighting because they can't figure out whose side their on.

They're so busy trying to be good little Republicans.






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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:19 AM
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2. The problem is not the Republicans or Democrats.
It is just that sometimes things are tough, and they are trying, but some have mixed loyalties and things that scare them from being who they want to be.

To be honest they are in some of the toughest positions when they try to stand up for better ideas, since if they have so much effects, they have much more things trying to keep them down.

Many are good people of good intents, and it is not easy for them, some are proably more good then others, but they are good people. Some of them are really terrific beyond compare.

I know it can be tough, I been there, but it is not for ourselves, it is for so many people. And they are good people trying, many of them are trying really hard.

And they are getting many good things done. The only question is what is the reason to have such consolidation of corporations and wealth, why have sectors for the purposes they have.

There is only one arguement for that, and it only holds in secret.

It can be done.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:36 AM
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5. I love what you wrote and know it's true, mostly, but there are too many political whores.
President Obama let the tea baggers go while and taint the entire political climate. If I was the president that would not have happened. And I would point fingers at those who are deliberately telling lies. For smart people to be outwitted by illiterate and ignorant tea baggers, it shows they aren't very smart.

President Obama has had many opportunities to be an instant hero, but he is squandering them all. I wish a regular person with guts and conviction could win an election because they would make a difference. But anyone who has to become a political whore to their corporate masters will never represent the people.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 02:43 AM
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6. Gee, and we complain about Palin using this imagery.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 04:21 AM
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7. The key word being "if"
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machI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 04:30 AM
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8. We can help the voters be smart by tying the Republicans to the oil spill in the Gulf
"Drill Baby Drill" should be heard anytime a Republican candidate is the subject of discussion
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:51 AM
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11. In a couple of months the campaign ads will start flowing "Big Time"
and we will probably see what you are hoping for.. Americans have extremely short memories and attantion span so most ads will run in the last month before the election..We should see some pretty pointed attacks then.
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