Air controllers call for criminal investigation ( Newark Airport traffic control)

[flyarm]

I AM REPOSTING THIS ..THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR DU'ERS NOT TO KNOW ABOUT..THIS IS ORIGINAL LINK ..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=829181&mesg_id=829181

FLY


Air controllers call for criminal investigation Eyewitness News Exclusive

Edited on Sat May-05-07 02:23 PM by flyarm


NOW WE HAVE 24/7 CABLE NEWS AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS STORY ON ANY OF THE CABLE NEWS!!
THIS IS ATTEMPTED MURDER!

SO WHAT WAS PISSY PANTS GOING TO DO???..BLAME IT ON IRAN???????????????

PLEASE GO TO LINK AND WATCH THE VIDEO!!


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5271...

Air controllers call for criminal investigationEyewitness News Exclusive

New York - WABC, May 3, 2007) - The air traffic controllers who were exposed to that carbon monoxide now want a criminal investigation into why they weren't allowed to leave their control center, even though they were dizzy and disoriented -- and trying to direct hundreds of planes.

SNIP:

Air Controller's interviews from Wednesday:

"It was like a fog," said controller Ray Maldonado.

"Sometimes it felt like I couldn't clearly put together something that I normally would have at any other time. You know what I mean?" air controller John Conklin said.

"I remember just being extremely fatigued ... very tired, very sleepy. It took a lot to stay awake that night," Maldonado said.

"Headaches, nausea, dizziness, disorientation, fatigue, inability to focus, not able to concentrate. We had these employees who were in no condition to do this job being directed to continue with this job," said Iacopelli.

"They said, 'no, we're not calling the fire department,'" Conklin said.

"The employees there said, 'Well, we'll call the local fire department and have them come in to test the air. And the operations manager in charge informed them that, 'If you make the call, I will not let them in the gate and I will refuse them entry into the control room,'" Iacopelli said.

Dr. Thomas Carracio runs the Long Island Regional Poison Control Center.

"What's troubling is it sounds like the workers were forced to stay in the area despite the fact they were having symptoms. Hundreds of people die every year with this," Carracio said. "It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly by anyone."

"I can surmise that they weren't relieved because what the FAA felt was, 'Let's keep moving the airplanes and we'll worry about the safety of our employees and passengers later. Maybe nothing will happen.'" Iacopelli said.

"Something potentially dangerous could have happened and thankfully nothing did," Maldonado.

[fooj]

1. Definition of TERRORISM...

defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."

Can't get much clearer than that.

WE, THE PEOPLE, have circulated information across this country post 9-11 without ANY assistance from the MSM. We have fought our way out of the darkness and we can do it again. WE HAVE THE POWER BECAUSE WE HAVE TRUTH.

If I denied an individual the opportunity to remove themselves from a room (garage) that was filling with carbon monoxide...if I denied them opportunity to phone for help (Fire Dept.) or vacate to safety and then THREATENED that if HELP ARRIVED they would be DENIED ENTRANCE...

MY ASS WOULD BE IN JAIL FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER! As it well should be! It's that simple. What do they mean there "MAY be a criminal investigation"??? There WILL BE a criminal investigation. WE, THE PEOPLE, will DEMAND IT!

I am spreading this story far and wide. I have friends who own travel agencies and friends who work in the airline industry. This act of domestic terrorism must be brought to justice. IMMEDIATELY.

WE ARE THE MEDIA. We have functioned as such since the "traditional" media has abdicated its responsibilities to this country. WE KNOW WHAT TO DO! Let's get busy!!!

There is NO WAY that they can SPIN this. It was a DELIBERATE act. Now, we need to arm our fellow citizens with TRUTH so that we all can safeguard ourselves against this type of criminal activity.

Thanks, Fly! I live on the West Coast and I haven't heard one report! This is an absolute OUTRAGE!

[Horse with no Name]

3. K&R

:thumbsup:
Nice work, my friend.

[troubleinwinter]

6. "I haven't heard one report!"

I've been checking Google News for the carbon monoxide story. It is only on the local NY WABC site (OP's link), five sentences in NY Post, and a short paragraph in an independent aviation site linking to the original story. That's IT.

It's fucking outrageous! "Keeping America safe" by imprisoning semi-concious air traffic controllers poisoned by cabon monoxide to guide jet liners full of thousands and thousands of people for four hours in an airport with intersecting landing strips.

Wouldn't want to divert flights for the safety of people, because the corporate "airlines would complain". Wouldn't want to have any backup controllers, because that would be preparing for an emergency, and we don't do that sort of thing.

Union officials say the FAA refused to replace the controllers because TRACON is grossly understaffed -- and closing off the airspace, apparently, was not an option.

"They would have to acknowledge that number one they made a mistake pumping the fumes into the control room. And number two, they didn't have enough staffing to cover ... There would be delays, the airlines would complain. It wouldn't make them look good," Iacopelli said.

Yet that is exactly what the FAA did ten years ago, taking no chances when dust from renovations at TRACON sickened dozens of controllers. There was a partial evacuation then, caused a series of delays and cancelled flights.

[entanglement]

33. TRACON grossly understaffed? Would that be "limited government" in action?

:eyes:

[H2O Man]

10. Right!

We have to exercise ALL of our Amendment #1 rights. This includes using the "information highway" as the location of our "hedge schools." But we must also use the corporate media to our best advantage. When there are threas like this one, which offer us the opportunity to take actions, we should work as a team. We can accomplish a heck of a lot of good this way.

[fooj]

11. Strength in numbers. Strength of spirit.

Truth will set u.s. free.

[flyarm]

13. Yes , please everyone send this story to your local media..sent it to msm ..

put it in a letter to the editor ..

call your congress people and senators..

don't say you want security ..and then do nothing about it..this is a security breach of the worst kind!!

and it is being silenced..

wouldn't want this admin to be known as "protecting your security" when they botch up every kind of security in this nation, now would we??

where is "brownie"??????????



fly

[fooj]

18. Kick for truth!

:kick:

[xultar]

15. I wish I could R this but I'll K and give an honorary R.

[troubleinwinter]

2. VERY important story

that is getting absolutely NO coverage except the local ABC news.

There are TWO videos on the first WABC link. Watch them BOTH.

[flyarm]

4. I am so angry..that this story has not been told..and we get paris fucking hilton 24/7..

I am so pissed...

I called Senator Bill Nelson's office this morning..and sent him this article..

Nelson was Air Force, and he was an Astronaut..lets see if he can get this legs..and get the media to pay attention, when they get their heads out of Paris Hiltons rear end!

can you tell i am angry??????

fly

[CrazyOrangeCat]

5. kick

[fooj]

7. How does this happen with "Mr. National Security" in charge?

After all, it happened in his OWN BACKYARD! Wasn't Chertoff a Federal Prosecutor for the state of New Jersey? If memory serves me, he was the ONLY attorney Clinton didn't replace when he took office.

Interviews from Wednesday:

"It was like a fog," said controller Ray Maldonado.

"Sometimes it felt like I couldn't clearly put together something that I normally would have at any other time. You know what I mean?" air controller John Conklin said.

"I remember just being extremely fatigued ... very tired, very sleepy. It took a lot to stay awake that night," Maldonado said.

"Headaches, nausea, dizziness, disorientation, fatigue, inability to focus, not able to concentrate. We had these employees who were in no condition to do this job being directed to continue with this job," said Iacopelli.

"They said, 'no, we're not calling the fire department,'" Conklin said.

"The employees there said, 'Well, we'll call the local fire department and have them come in to test the air. And the operations manager in charge informed them that, 'If you make the call, I will not let them in the gate and I will refuse them entry into the control room,'" Iacopelli said.

Why isn't the operations manager in jail? This is a DELIBERATE criminal act. Why the news BLACKOUT? If this isn't DOMESTIC terrorism, I don't know what is.

[bonito]

8. K&R n/t

[libnnc]

9. There'd better be a major rolling of heads at

FAA management level over this. Bunch of fucking paper pushers who get paid waaay too much to sit on the crapper and do crossword puzzles while the controllers do all the work. They keep controllers on such a short leash over the DUMBEST shit (breaks, vacation time, overtime, DRESS CODE...)

Management are the ones whose salaries are eating up most of the FAA's budget. Yet it's the controllers who actually plug in and work the planes who get the shaft.

[flyarm]

12. and the flying public is getting the "shaft"..because when you take your shoes off

and your belt off, and hand over your toothpaste , you think you are doing it for your safety!!

"think"..being the relevant word..

aircraft stack up all over the NY airspace..do you want someone sleepy from carbon monoxide controlling all those stacked up aircraft..if you are sitting in one??..or underneath one??

do you want someone who is disorientated from carbon monoxide controlling that highway in the air???????
or flying over your home and family???????

think about it..

and our so called media thinks Paris Hilton is a story????????

and this is not???????

who is hiding what????????

fly

[redacted]

14. BIG THANK YOU FOR THE REPOST!

We watched both vieeos in stunned silence.

[xultar]

16. Best repost I've seen in a long time.

[fooj]

17. Here's the LINK that will get you directly to the story and the VIDEOS...

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=5271014

[troubleinwinter]

19. Time to kick this important story & the non-reporting, kids. Don't forget yer 'R's!

[bleever]

20. A kick to go with my earlier recommendation.

This is terrorism, as fooj so eloquently says.

:kick:

[babylonsister]

21. K&R, and sending to KO and Jack Cafferty. Thanks, all! nt

[fooj]

22. Thanks! You rock, sister!

:hi:

[babylonsister]

23. Anytime, fooj. I wish I had seen it earlier; it's too late for anyone

to address this today if they ever intend to. But I agree that we need to make some noise!
And I meant 'sent' as they're mailed.
:hi:

[flyarm]

25. Thank you babylonsister!!!!

yes it is important!!

:hi: fly

[flyarm]

24. i sent to Keith got a note back..he is looking into it!! yeah KO!! eom

[seemslikeadream]

26. yeah KO!!

:hi:

[fooj]

27. Great news!!!

I can wait another day as long as I know that KO is on it!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

39. This is fantastic news flyarm!!!!! Recommending btw!!!! eom

[dogindia]

28. kandr. n/t

[SharonRB]

29. I haven't heard about any of this!

This is an outrage.

Thanks for letting us know about this, fly.

[flyarm]

30. yes SharonRB it is an outrage..and why i posted it a second time

i thought people may have been offline over the weekend...

and KO sent note late today..so hopefully he will look into this and do a story about it ..so people nationwide will learn about this breach of security for our nations air safety..

HiSharonRB!!:hi:

wish i didn't have to post a story like this..:(

fly

[SharonRB]

31. Me. too, fly

Me, too.

I posted a link in the KOEB to get people to come over to read this.

:hi:

[StarTurtle]

32. Passed this on to my senator, Amy Klobuchar.

Before going to the senate, she was a prosecuting attorney. I hope she can generate some consequences for this outrage.

[Sirveri]

34. If they're anything like a military watchstander,

Then they have a duty to refuse to do their job until the situation is corrected.

But they can probably also be fired.

[mnhtnbb]

35. Thanks for posting. Sent to two friends with family in NJ and they fly in/out of Newark frequently

[NewYorkerfromMass]

36. Senator Schumer is pressing the FAA for answers

so that's a good sign something will happen. I have to say as an architect it is extremely disturbing that the emergency generator is not exhausted in a way so as not to pollute the AC system. Sounds like a bad HVAC design, and in the event of a real emergency, TRACON would be useless and out of commission.

[bdamomma]

37. kick

[flyarm]

38. UTUBE OF THE VIDEO'S .. THANK YOU DU'ER REDACTED

HERE IS THE UTUBE OF THE VIDEO'S

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mrredacted

THANK YOU SO MUCH REDACTED!!

PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS!!

FLY

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

40. Kick!!!! eom