I fear that the sheeple are stupid enough to elect Fred Thompson

[Stevendsmith]

They’ll be unable and unwilling to distinguish between his fictional portrayals of strength and competence and his true identity as a Bush loyalist, establishment Rethug. They’ll tell themselves that the Republican Party is not the problem, but Bush specifically was a bad president. They’ll vote for Thompson because he’s a no-nonsense daddy figure – just what is needed to fight the bad guys – a la the villains in “24.” This opinion will be abbetted by bootlickers like Chris Matthews, who will drool over Thompson.

Yeah, my opinion of the electorate is that low.

Given the past seven years, can you blame me?

[ComerPerro]

1. oh my God, yes they are. Of course they are. Thompson knows it

[politicat]

2. Me, too. And Bog knows that the last thing America needs is another

fucking actor in office.

[AuntPatsy]

The only way he could win is if election fraud is not dealt with...

Sure you have the nut bags who will vote blindly republican regardless, but far too many citizens from both sides of the aisle have had enough of the new republican party tactics....

[aikoaiko]

3. Its true, becoming President is in large part all about impression management.

Ronald Reagan and Big Dog did it the best in my time.

[mediaman007]

4. This was predicted...

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken

-- Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

[eagler]

5. There are still many parts that need to fall in place yet before

a good guess can even be made for '08. For example, if Hagel does decide to run as an independent - the whole dynamic could change. there's a good chance he will do just that.

[Stevendsmith]

8. Good point. The lizard brains will also buy into Hagel

Again, the idiots will not associate the Republican Party with Bush. They'll gladly vote for a "good" Republican.

[angstlessk]

6. I think he has skeletons in his closet and is using this time to ferret

them out..and quash them. Hell, maybe the employee at Luxor held one of his 'skeleton keys'? Not saying it is so, but I think they are investigating his past to see how much can surface and how much they can quash? Speculation at best, but a reason he is holding back.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Aside from his many other weaknesses, including cancer in remission,

I agree with you he's got some skeletons--otherwise, the GOP would have rallied around him sooner. Notice how candidates never come from out of nowhere, but spend years plotting to run, and their names are generally brought up as possible contenders long before they start showing an interest in running. We don't have that here, and that's what tells me that someone decided a long time ago that there was something that disqualified him. Like you, I think he's waiting to see if any "trouble" surfaces.

[aquart]

7. If you think of the American people as "sheeple," no wonder.

Try thinking of them as human beings.

[Journeyman]

10. Of course, the OC Lincoln Club's reaction this weekend was tepid at best. . .

and Robert Novak faulted his "lackluster performance," but don't let facts get in the way of your disparaging masses of people for no reason other than your ill-informed opinion.

And you cast aspersions on fellow citizens . . .



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=280149

[Stevendsmith]

18. Yeah, I should have never doubted Novak.

Oh, and spare me the lofty "fellow citizens." This country is crawling with idiots who are citizens by legal definition only.

[Beelzebud]

11. Republicans love to bash Hollywood. Until it comes time to vote them into office.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

12. So tell me, who are the non-sheeple?

And who gets to decide who's a sheeple and who's a person?

[Beelzebud]

13. Sheeple vote for movie stars instead of leaders.

[Stevendsmith]

16. Thank you.

Given the legions of imbeciles in this country, I think it's funny when people in this forum get all offended by the term sheeple.

[Beelzebud]

17. I know what you mean. Any country that would elect Bush to a 2nd term is full of sheeple.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

26. The same country elected FDR three times.

What a bunch of sheeple! :eyes:

[Beelzebud]

29. You campare FDR to Bush? You think Bush is an FDR? Get real...

Being re-elected doesn't make people sheep. It's WHO we're talking about.

FDR got elected 3 times because he basically saved this country.

Bush got elected twice because he stole one election, and then used 9/11 to brainwash a majority of the SHEEPLE into voting for him again.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

35. No, I think your point is useless.

Because the vast majority of Republicans would probably spout the same "sheeple" bullshit about folks who voted for FDR, and they'd be every bit as wrong as you are. It's juvenile. It's another sad attempt to dehumanize the enemy so you don't have to think about them as human beings and consider their motivations, aside from shouting "Sheeple!"

[Beelzebud]

36. Yeah you're right. All Americans are informed citizens that make thoughtful decisions.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

38. "Everyone is stupid except me." -Homer Simpson n/t

[Lil Missy]

23. Me too. Most people who vote base their decision on sound bytes

If actual qualifications (or character) had anything to do with it, G W Bonehead couldn't be elected as dog catcher. But yet he won 2 terms.

I find the term "sheeple" very offensive too. Because I resent the fact that these are the uninformed morans who tally the most votes. It is not the most informed or educated that determine the outcome. It's the sheeple.

Color me jaded - I confess, wholeheartedly.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

24. What about comedians?

Would I be allowed to vote for Franken, or would that make me "teh sheeplez?"

[Beelzebud]

27. If there is a more qualified primary candidate, then yes, you'd be sheeple to vote for Franken.

I do take issue with your comparison though.

Al Franken has written numerous books about politics, and hosted a political talk radio show for a few years.

Fred Thompson is being drafted by people who like him on Law and Order...

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

30. Well, hell...

...at this point Al Gore's a movie star. Guess I can't vote for him.

[Beelzebud]

32. I wouldn't. I'd rather have someone who had dedicated their life to poltics.

Al Franken is great, and I agree with him on about 95% of the issues, but I'd rather have a senator that didn't spend his early years snorting coke and writing for a scetch comedy show.

[Stevendsmith]

31. You mistake the meaning of my post

It's not that Thompson is an actor (and a politician); it's that naive and gullible people in this county (what I refer to as the Sheeple) will blur Thompson the person with Thompson the actor.

Jeezus. Is it permissible to acknowledge that there are millions of dumb people in this country who vote?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

33. What's the difference between an actor and a politician?

Hell, millions of people blurred Bush the retard and Bush the ass-kicking anti-terrorist fighter pilot. Politics is theatre.

[TwilightGardener]

34. I am in total agreement with you. This is part of why the GOP probably

finds him attractive--they're trying to pull a massive joke on the American people, once again.

[Cobalt-60]

28. the Shearer

[Parche]

14. Vote

I know one person who wont be voting for Fred........


Elizabeth Rohm, Law and Order

[sandnsea]

15. Seen his wife?

Never happen. He is DOA.

Unless Hagel gets in, or some kind of gaffe, it's going to be Romney.

[Stevendsmith]

20. What's the deal with his wife?

I haven't seen her and know nothing about her.

[TwilightGardener]

21. She's 25 years younger, and dresses like a skank. Titties hanging out, etc.

[sandnsea]

39. I would have said tacky trophy wife

but your description will work too I suppose. :)

[pampango]

19. I just love "sheeple" posts.

They remind me that my party believes that the strength of a democracy comes from the wisdom of its common people rather than the wisdom of the elites (political and/or economic.) If the American people are stupid idiots, on the whole, then George (or perhaps one of our guys or gals later on) would be justified in dispensing with these periodic "elections" that put too much power in the hands of fools.

Who came up with the lame idea of people governing themselves? Ahh, for the good ol' days of kings and queens and politburos who knew what was best for the common man over whom they ruled with wisdom and unselfishness.

[Stevendsmith]

22. My faith in the wisdom of the American people expired long ago

Please show me where I've gone wrong.

And wow, I'm a monarchist! Who knew?

[pampango]

25. If you don't trust the people to govern themselves, you got to

come up with an alternative - doesn't have to be monarchy. There are lots of alternatives (including, I forgot, anarchy, so I guess you don't have to come up with an alternative.) ;)

Actually, I don't think that the American people "chose" Bush in 2000 and 2004 is questionable as well. Most of them are on to Bush's antics now, according to the polls, perhaps not as quickly as the smart folks at DU, but on to him just the same.

[Stevendsmith]

37. I don't consider the entire electorate to be sheeple

And I never said that I don't trust the people to govern themselves. I just think that there is a massive and decisive segment of the electorate that has been de-politicized by material abundance. I have to admit that the past couple of decades have shaken my once strong faith in the intellectual foundation of the Enlightenment-- the belief in popular wisdom.

Look around you. Look at the priorities and values held by most Americans.

Look at our government and what it's doing. I'm not going to chalk all of this up to voter fraud.