Remember Howard Jarvis?

[EstimatedProphet]

If you don't, Howard Jarvis was the guy who led the revolt against Proposition 13 in California, and started a general taxpayer revolt in the US. It was through him that the idea of taxes for anything but absolute minimum expenditures became popular. His work was what led directly to a crumbling US infrastructure in the US right now, due to underfunding. His philosophy was what laid the groundwork for Reagan, which has led to the embarrassing position we are in now of corporations buying up roads and bridges, and a trend in privatization of infrastructure.

Thanks, Howard.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. My dear EstimatedProphet!

Not only do I remember that bastard...

But daily I live with the consequences of his actions, and of the actions of the group that bears his name...

Whenever I see that they are backing some proposition or other, I automatically vote against it!

Their works are always disasters...

Thanks, Howard, indeed! :grr:

:puke:

[EstimatedProphet]

2. I thought of him because of the Reagan thread

because in my mind he sold people on a fantasy story that let them think Reagan was a realistic choice. The idea that government can provide all the things that the average person wants without any funding to do it is ridiculous, but for some reason people expect it. Jarvis is the one that put that idea into play.

[Oeditpus Rex]

3. Correction:

Prop 13 was the revolt, or the result of it. It was formally called the Jarvis-Gann Initiative; Jarvis' cohort was one Paul Gann, whom history has forgotten.

[EstimatedProphet]

4. Oops! You're right. I stand corrected.

[damntexdem]

5. Remind me a-Gann.

I moved to California in 1977, to an innovative state. By 1992 when I left California, it was a state that had been bled dry of its innovation, and perpetually in fiscal crisis.

[EstimatedProphet]

6. And doesn't it look similar to what's going on in the US now?

I hated that initiative when it came out. I could see right through it.

[Raine]

7. I'll never forget

that bastard! :mad: :grr:

[EstimatedProphet]

8. The media seems to have forgotten him in the Reagasm.