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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:29 PM
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This looks like a hurricane forming
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:31 PM
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1. Indeed!
Coming to the Carolinas.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:31 PM
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2. Well, it's big, in the atlantic, and circular.
I don't think that makes it a hurricane though.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:31 PM
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3. Yes it does and they predicted more hurricanes in the
Atlantic
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:31 PM
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4. You have to be shitting me
I'm leaving on a golf trip to Florida on Thursday and I will be really mad if some hurricane screws it up.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:20 PM
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15. This won't hit Florida
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:49 AM
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17. Well thank God
I've been planning this trip for weeks.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:32 PM
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5. Yeow! It don't look good, regardless!
:scared:
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:33 PM
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6. WTF?? Wind speed?
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leftwing9 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:39 PM
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7. well...
It looks somewhat loosely formed to be that close to the East Coast.

Still, it looks like we can look forward to a seven-month hurricane season from now on.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:17 AM
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19. Hi leftwing9!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:25 AM
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21. welcome to DU leftwing9!
:hi:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:39 PM
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8. Not a hurricane. Info from another (much better imo) weather site:
Coastal Carolina storm
A powerful non-tropical low pressure system formed off the coast of North Carolina last night, and is bringing tropical storm-force winds as high as 55 mph to the waters offshore the Carolina coast, according to the latest QuikSCAT satellite wind estimates. The North Carolina Diamond Shoals buoy had 17 foot seas and sustained winds of 43 mph at 9am EDT this morning, and buoy 41001 about 175 miles east of Cape Hatteras recorded sustained winds of 62 mph gusting to 80 mph at 1am this morning. Seas were 41 feet at this buoy this morning! The strong winds will bring 10-20 foot seas and significant beach erosion to the shores of North Carolina, South Carolina, and northeast Florida through Wednesday. A 3-5 foot storm surge is expected along portions of the North Carolina coast through Tuesday morning. The latest set of computer model runs have the storm drifting slowly southwest, and bring it ashore between the South Carolina and northern Florida coast on Wednesday. The storm will start to develop thunderstorm activity and a warm core, but will probably not have time to become fully subtropical and become Subtropical Storm Andrea. However, the storm is only expected to weaken slowly, and will have an impact similar to a tropical storm in regards to offshore winds and coastal flooding today and Tuesday. If the storm does indeed make landfall on Wednesday as expected, it will most likely be of tropical depression strength, with top sustained winds around 30-35 mph. Heavy rains of 1-3 inches can be expected to the north of where the center makes landfall, but rains will not be as significant as what a tropical storm would bring.

I'll have an update on this storm Tuesday morning.
Jeff Masters

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=666&tstamp=200705
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:41 PM
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10. I wondered what Jeff Masters had to say about it
but hadn't checked yet.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:43 PM
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11. 5 mph shy of hurricane force...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:46 PM
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13. nevermind
Edited on Mon May-07-07 03:47 PM by Bornaginhooligan
misread the article.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:41 PM
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9. Looks like a nasty nor'easter in the making
but it's about to leave warm water.



Once it leaves the uppermost warm part of the Gulf Stream, it'll lose punch quickly.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:43 PM
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12. A little too loose to be a hurricane
But otherwise, yikes. Hopefully it will not "spin up" over the Gulf Stream...
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:12 PM
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14. Not a hurricane, but one helluva blow.
Edited on Mon May-07-07 04:16 PM by Island Blue
I live on the Outer Banks, north of Hatteras Island, and it's been blowin' hard for the past 40 hours or so. All day yesterday and earlier today, winds were 35 - 60 sustained, with higher gusts in places. There is ocean over wash on Hwy. 12 on Hatteras Island, making it impassable. Schools in our county were closed today because there are several bridges to be crossed, and they didn't want to risk it with the school buses. It is starting to calm down a bit now it seems, the wind is only blowing 33 mph.

When you live here, you get used to constant wind, but this is a decent nor'easter. I haven't been to the ocean today, but I suspect we've probably lost a few beach-front cottages. The Coast Guard had to pull several people out of the ocean yesterday and today - boaters coming up from FL, etc. who were surprised by the storm.

This storm seems to have been ignored by the Weather Channel. I don't know why.

Edited to note: We haven't had much rain to speak of associated with this storm (just overcast) so that's a positive. Rain and wind is never a fun combo.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:21 PM
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16. NOAA site-- *the* place to be for weather in South Florida...
Edited on Mon May-07-07 04:22 PM by Malikshah
This is their "Image" of the day-- not sure, but doesn't appear that they're raising a panic-- just warning people about the winds.





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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:54 AM
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18. I was watching that last night
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 09:23 AM
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20. look at this imagery also.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:01 AM
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22. The formation of a La Nina is bad news for the Carolinas w/hurricane season coming...
I have a bad feeling that this season we will see hurricanes move up the Atlantic Coast rather than move over Florida into the Gulf.

We have so many homes and development on the coast and outer banks that are vulnerable.

Sure hope I am wrong.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:55 AM
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23. I just heard that they now have hurricane hunter aircraft
on standby. It is not tropical now, but may become so. Weird system.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:58 PM
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37. It is and it's gaining convection
I've been watching this thing for the past two days, basically in shock. Conditions are NOT favorable yet, the water is only marginal and this thing is surrounded by wind shear, but yet it's apparently gaining strength. This doesn't bode well for this coming season.

It's not a tropical system and it probably won't become one, but there's an outside chance of it. According to the Weather Channel, it is subtropical now, but hasn't been declared so by the NHC. I have a feeling that it would only be declared a subtropical/tropical storm after the aircraft scouted it out, being such an early season storm and not easily classified just by looking at satellites.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:39 PM
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41. agree with you
does not bode well...
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:40 PM
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42. Who cares if it becomes tropical.
Either way it will bring wind and rain to where ever it makes landfall.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:47 PM
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46. exactly.
a nasty looking thing all in all.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 10:59 AM
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24. All I can say it is EARLY fer this shit
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:12 AM
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25. latest statement from NHC:
000
WONT41 KNHC 081346
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
950 AM EDT TUE MAY 8 2007

A NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...CENTERED ABOUT 230 MILES
EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA COASTS...HAS BEEN
MOVING SLOWLY WESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. THIS SYSTEM IS PRODUCING
GALE-FORCE WINDS AND HEAVY SURF ALONG THE COASTS OF NORTH
CAROLINA...SOUTH CAROLINA...AND GEORGIA...WITH STRONGER WINDS
OFFSHORE. ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED SINCE
YESTERDAY...BUT NO SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING OF THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED. THE LOW IS BEING MONITORED FOR SIGNS OF TROPICAL OR
SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT...AND AN AIR FORCE RESERVE
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO INVESTIGATE THE SYSTEM
TOMORROW MORNING...IF NECESSARY.

INTERESTS ALONG THE COAST OF THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES SHOULD
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST
OFFICES. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN ALSO BE FOUND
IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE...UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:14 AM
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26. It's just a low pressure system but the BP is not nearly low enough to form a Hurricane
Not to mention the water is not warm enough yet.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 11:16 AM
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27. Savannah checking in
I wanna go surfing
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:02 PM
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28. Charleston here
I want to go drinking, lol.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:28 PM
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30. it just got dark grey outside my window
this should be fun
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:35 PM
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32. Stay safe
Make sure you have some emergency supplies.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:37 PM
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34. always, I'm one of those paranoid people that have an emergency survival kit
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:16 AM
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52. Summerville SC here (25 miles from Charleston)
I don't care what we do but I don't want to lose power. I just filled the fridge, lots of goodies.
It is too early for this crap, it's payback from last summer.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:26 PM
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29. The latest from NOAA
000
WONT41 KNHC 081346
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
950 AM EDT TUE MAY 8 2007

A NON-TROPICAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM...CENTERED ABOUT 230 MILES
EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA COASTS...HAS BEEN
MOVING SLOWLY WESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. THIS SYSTEM IS PRODUCING
GALE-FORCE WINDS AND HEAVY SURF ALONG THE COASTS OF NORTH
CAROLINA...SOUTH CAROLINA...AND GEORGIA...WITH STRONGER WINDS
OFFSHORE. ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED SINCE
YESTERDAY...BUT NO SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING OF THIS SYSTEM IS
EXPECTED. THE LOW IS BEING MONITORED FOR SIGNS OF TROPICAL OR
SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT...AND AN AIR FORCE RESERVE
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO INVESTIGATE THE SYSTEM
TOMORROW MORNING...IF NECESSARY.

INTERESTS ALONG THE COAST OF THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES SHOULD
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST
OFFICES. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN ALSO BE FOUND
IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE...UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.


$$
FORECASTER KNABB
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:33 PM
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31. And today is May 8th
WOW! I heard earlier that several people were rescued off the Carolina coast today.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:36 PM
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33. That's from this morning
I've had it on my screen all day as I went about my business and just looked for an update. There is none yet.

Our local Orlando forecaster said at noon that this system is still extra-tropical but is considered "hybrid" now -- neither cold core nor warm. In a month this thing might have had a strong chance of turning tropical and nastier, but right now it likely won't do much except erode beaches with heightened wave action and bring some much needed rain to some wildfire areas. It's expected to come ashore around the GA/FL border sometime tomorrow.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:38 PM
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35. Yep.. It's so close to shore right now I don;t see it doing much
Edited on Tue May-08-07 02:38 PM by SoCalDem
more than it is now.. The vapor satellite pic shows it as blue..(not tropical red), so I think it's just gonna huff & puff & rain and then move up the coast :)

BUT..

it is a harbinger for an early start to the real season :scared:
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:40 PM
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36. Not a hurricane.
barometric pressure isn't low enough, and there isn't enough time/heat between where it is now and land to make anything of itself. Just a nice storm.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:03 PM
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38. A new global tropical cyclone record was set today.
What do you think it is? Take a guess. Most storms ever recorded world wide in the first week of May?

Actually, a the record that was broke was longest period without any tropical cyclone in the world. 32 days without any tropical cyclones anywhere in the world which is a new record.



And people on here say the GOP use scare tactics. What about the title of this thread? Its not tropical. Which means its not a hurricane. Its pretty much a late season Nor'easter. It may become sub-tropical, but even thats a stretch.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:30 PM
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39. This really frightens me....
I hope it isn't another Katrina
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:32 PM
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40. I dont know how to say this more clearly.
Edited on Tue May-08-07 03:32 PM by RL3AO
THIS ISNT TROPICAL. PERIOD. This really isnt completly directed to you, but mainly the poster of this thread who should have used a more appropriate title like "Possible tropical system in Atlantic".
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:42 PM
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43. It's an unusual storm.
That's what was said earlier on CNN.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:46 PM
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45. A little unusual. But its just a coastal storm that may become sub-tropial.
It doesnt matter much anyway. Either way it will be 40 mph rain maker.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:46 PM
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44. All the OP said
was that it LOOKED like a hurricane, which it does.

Apparently the NHC is taking it seriously and have hurricane hunters on alert to go if needed.

Chill. No one is panicking; we're just discussing an unusual storm.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:50 PM
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47. IMO it looks nothing like a hurricane. It looks like an extra tropical low-pressure system.
Edited on Tue May-08-07 04:51 PM by RL3AO
This is a hurricane



This is a 90L




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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:52 PM
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48. The OP did say a hurricane "forming". n/t
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:53 PM
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49. Thats what I thought it said.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:55 PM
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50. yesterday in its formation
it looked like one in its infancy.
Believe me, I have been through several and that distinctive rotation sends a chill down my spine. When you live where I do, you pay close attention. Plus I'm a weather buff.:hi:
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 07:07 AM
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51. The system is looking a little better. Aircraft recon looking at it now.
Possibly we could have Sub-tropical storm Andrea.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:14 AM
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55. Latest from NHC
000
WONT41 KNHC 091303
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
905 AM EDT WED MAY 9 2007

SATELLITE IMAGERY AND PRELIMINARY REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT THIS MORNING INDICATE THAT THE AREA OF LOW
PRESSURE CENTERED ABOUT 150 MILES EAST OF JACKSONVILLE IS ACQUIRING
THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE. THE SYSTEM CONTINUES
MOVING GENERALLY WESTWARD AT ABOUT 5 MPH. IF PRESENT TRENDS
CONTINUE... ADVISORIES ON SUBTROPICAL STORM ANDREA WOULD BE
INITIATED LATER THIS MORNING.

DANGEROUS SURF CONDITIONS CONTINUE ALONG THE COASTS OF THE
CAROLINAS... GEORGIA... AND NORTHEASTERN FLORIDA. INTERESTS IN
THESE AREAS SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY LOCAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICES. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
ON THIS SYSTEM CAN ALSO BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE... UNDER AWIPS HEADER NFDHSFAT1 AND
WMO HEADER FZNT01 KWBC.

$$
FORECASTER FRANKLIN/KNABB




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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 09:59 AM
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53. this is the news flash on CNN
Forecasters say Subtropical Storm Andrea has formed off the southeastern U.S. coast, more than three weeks before the official start of hurricane season.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-09-07 10:00 AM
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54. You were close
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