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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:27 PM
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Ron Paul Calls For Bush's Impeachment - So where is the Democratic Congress?
I find it ironic that we have heard this twice from GOP Candidates ...Hagel and Paul. While the Democratic Congress bides its time.


http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/03/30/01456.html

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Paul said that Bush should be impeached not under the umbrella of partisan vengeance but for ceaselessly breaking the laws of the land.

"I would have trouble arguing that he's been a Constitutional President and once you violate the Constitution and be proven to do that I think these people should be removed from office."

Opining that the U.S. had entered a period of "soft fascism," Paul noted that the legacy of the Bush administration has been the total abandonment of Constitutional principles.

"Congress has generously ignored the Constitution while the President flaunts it, the courts have ignored it and they get in the business of legislating so there's no respect for the rule of law." said Paul.

"When the President signs all these bills and then adds statements after saying I have no intention of following it - he's in a way signing it and vetoing - so in his mind he's vetoing a lot of bills, in our mind under the rule of law he hasn't vetoed a thing."

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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:29 PM
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1. Hagel hasnt called for impeachment.
And Paul is a loony wacko. Not many take him serious.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:30 PM
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2. Paul opposing the war and calling for Bush's impeachment is a "wacko"
He's a member of the US Congress--elected by the people of his district, so I take him seriously. On these issues he's dead right.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:27 PM
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16. Ron Paul is highly respected by many people in BOTH parties in his district.
And he's been in congress a LONG time. I'm glad he's on this, and I wish he'd sign on to Kucinich's impeachment of Cheney. They're both in the House after all.

:kick::kick::kick:

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:32 PM
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4. Not according to this...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:39 PM
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6. An internet poll
About as irrelevant as Paul's candidacy.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:41 PM
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7. He did vote against the war in Iraq - that took some guts
Surely you aren't saying that those words of Ron Paul calling for Bush's impeachment are real whacko??

I've seen attempts to call him "nuts" posted by others. Please....out of my own curiousity what is it that he says or does that is so "nuts", or is anyone who fights against the establishment nuts?

I'm not touting him as a GOP candidate, but he actually voted against the Iraq war. What did he know that others who voted for the war didn't? I looked at his website http://www.ronpaul2008.com/html/Issues_fx.html and actually find some appeal there.

Alright so Hagel wasn't quite as forthright and he only suggested the possibility of Bush's impeachment. I still believe strongly that if any POTUS needs impeached, it is George W Bush....if for nothing more than to set an example so others never again follow.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 07:23 PM
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13. A lot of people take him seriously
He's the highest elected Libertarian in the country. The R is just for giggles.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:31 PM
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3. Good on Ron Paul! To be fair, he's the only R to "call" for it--
Hagel merely speculated that people might call for it, so give Paul the credit here--wish the Dems weren't so damn cautious, at least the non-presidential candidate Congress--Kucinich and Murtha were the only ones to bring it up.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 06:08 PM
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9. Kucinich and Paul are both mavericks out of the same mold
Is it only me or do others like political mavericks and those that have the guts to "dis" the establishment and not simply bow down to them and/or always put them at the head of the line.

Both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are portrayed by the establishment media as nutcases. I don't buy it.

America is ready now for a maverick in the Whitehouse that looks out for the details, the little people and the Constitution.

I'm concerned that front runner candidates are of the same pro-corporate, pro-rich, pro free trade, and screw America agenda. That's how they get the approval of the corporate mainstream media.

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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 06:24 PM
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10. they both voted against the Patriot Act, too
I'd much prefer a candidate like Kucinich or Paul, who vote out of principle to respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as opposed to people like Hillary Clinton or Edwards, who helped give Bush police powers, and todied to the War for political gain.

Sadly, I don't think we'll end up with that kind of candidate.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 06:35 PM
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12. We are ready for such principled candidates
But the corporate owned and controlled media and the DLC and US Chamber of Commerce will make sure the huddled masses are convinced they are perceived irrelevant nut cases. We've seen how the propaganda works with innoculated posters on DU.

I'd like to see both run side by side as P and VP and then flip a coin for the P spot. We MUST shake up and remove the elite from power.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-12-07 09:18 AM
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18. two of the best
:kick:
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:34 PM
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5. fvck Ron Paul and the horse he rode in on
"Paul said that Bush should be impeached not under the umbrella of partisan vengeance but for ceaselessly breaking the laws of the land."

NO ONE in the Dem camp has ever suggested that Pissypants be impeached "under the umbrella of partisan vengeance". there's ample lawbreaking, lying, and disregard for the Constitution to support impeachment of both Pissypants and Darth. Dems and even a few Pukes can agree on this.

reminder to Pukes (including "libertarian" Pukes like Paul): CLINTON was impeached under partisan vengeance. Since no sentient being ever gave a rat's ass whether or not he got a BJ. go fvck yourself, Ron.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 04:45 PM
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8. It's called H.Res 333, Ron. Till I see your name on the co-sponsors list
You can shut up.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HE00333:@@@P


H.RES.333
Title: Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Sponsor: Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. (introduced 4/24/2007) Cosponsors (2)
Latest Major Action: 4/24/2007 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. COSPONSORS(2), ALPHABETICAL : (Sort: by date)


Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 5/1/2007
Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. - 5/1/2007
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 06:32 PM
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11. Exactly. Put your vote where your mouth is, Ron.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:50 AM
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15. excellent point. talk is cheap.
however, 2 dems in support? as the op asks--where are the dems? maybe they can't support kucinich's bill because it would look too good for that brave, unelectable man.
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 03:29 PM
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17. Appreciate that link
I agree with your post as well.

Alyce
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 07:27 PM
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14. flasbback to ahem 1974
you cannot impeach until the pubbies collapse

What you are seeing is the collapse

Soon we will see a committee of Party Elders go over to 1600 and lay the law

Ironic if daddy went with them.

Yes kiddies the paralells to Watergate ARE stunning
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