Christian Group Plans Church Near Site Of Klan Lynching

[jberryhill]

Your take?

[Luminous Animal]

1. He! Good one.

[Cleobulus]

2. Good take on the situation, though you'll probably get some kookie people...

who will claim the KKK wasn't/isn't Christian.

[name not needed]

3. Well, at least they won't have to walk far to the cross burning after church.

[greyl]

4. What do you mean "near"? nt

[jberryhill]

5. Near enough to affect your response one way or the other

If there is a proximity which causes you to select the first option, then that's the distance I intend.

[Ozymanithrax]

6. Clearly, they see nothing odd in putting up a big cross where the Clan...

burned crosses to the glory of Christ and to the horror of the un-white.

If they had a shred of human decency they would abandon this idea.

We should also remember that the Clan were Christians, also.

[aquart]

7. But true faith requires a selfish arrogance that would make a cat blush.

[Dorian Gray]

11. The same reasoning

against building a mosque near the WTC site in NYC.

And it's a ridiculous argument because the church is an independent organization who should not be penalized because of the actions of others.

[Ozymanithrax]

13. Clearly, my post did not communicate what I thought it did. I posted...

If they had a shred of human decency they would abandon this idea.

Freedom of religion and freedom of association means they can worship however they want to (as long as they do not try to take that right away from others) and they can associate with whomever they please.

I left abandoning their decision to glorify lynching to them. I feel the same about the mosque on the WTC site. I think it is a bad idea that shows a marvelous lack of sensitivity. But they should be able to worship there and associate with whom they please.

I defend their right to do it, but still think it is stupid, insensitive, and shows a willful ignorance of history.

[jberryhill]

17. Ah, does the balance change if members of the church were victims of the lynching?

Because that is the situation with the NYC Islamic congregation.

[Ozymanithrax]

21. No it does not, because their decision is not just about their view...

I am aware that Muslim's whose loved ones were murdered in the fall of the towers may want to put the souls of their departed to rest. But there are many who, though wrong, will see that as a way of insulting Christian, Jews, Hindus, or Atheists who died in the towers. And for the record, I would not favor building a Church, Synagogue, or Ashram on that site.

I think they should be able to build there, but I don't think they should do it. It is the same with a Church on lynching site. Even if they feel they are somehow putting the tortured souls of the murdered at rest, others will See that Church as a symbol of the white masked men who murdered there. They should build elsewhere.

[jberryhill]

23. That's a better analysis than most

That sort of "sensitivity is a two way street" thinking is unusual. I can respect that, as it takes into account that the people who are pissed off are wrong, but that wrong people have feelings too. That is the same question posed to those who say, "why should I respect someone's religious fantasies in the first place."

You are really taking the large picture view here. It's very much like the perennial argument about the word "niggardly". Sometimes how people feel, even if wrong, should be considered, and if offense will be caused, then it should be addressed tactfully.

[meowomon]

8. Not enough information to vote. Link?

[Posteritatis]

24. OP's trying to defend the kneejerk rage about the new mosque planned in NYC. (nt)

[ZombieHorde]

9. I would like to vote "all of the above."

The Church should not be built, the Church should be allowed to be built, and I like fries.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

10. Is there some connection between this group/church and the klan?

Or are you just suggesting that, in general, churches don't belong near the sites of Klan lynchings?

[Dorian Gray]

12. I think the poll is a way

to make a point (perhaps about the hypocrisy of one side or the other) about the mosque being built near the WTC/9-11 site.

[jberryhill]

15. Good question

Members of this church were actually victims of the lynching - to continue the analogy with the NYC mosque.

[jberryhill]

18. Yes - the church had members who were victims of the lynching!

[Bluenorthwest]

14. My take is that those who pose fake questions by way of

making a statement are getting dull. It is a craven way of communicating. Say what you mean. Mean what you say.
I probably agree with you, but this tactic is not my cup of tea. So I will pass on the game, thanks.

[jberryhill]

16. Analogies are useful

...for exploring the idea of whether a given position is principled, or whether there is something else a work. Or at least figuring out the contours and limits of the supposed principle.

[Bluenorthwest]

19. This is not an analogy

This is a statement posing as a question. Not the same thing. When you wish to say something, and instead you ask something, that is simply a weak way of getting others to speak your point for you. You could simply make your point. No need for games, no need for set ups. Simply move your fingers and type your thoughts.
This is a multiple choice question. It is not an analogy. It is a passive aggressive way of speaking your mind without actually speaking your mind.

[Romulox]

22. That's it. ALERT!

:sarcasm:

You speak with uncommon clarity. You really nailed what was bothering me about this thread (I have no strong opinion about the situs of mosques, one way or the other.)

[jberryhill]

25. No, it's testing the limits of principles

In order to get a feel for a principle, you have to test it against another set of facts, to see if the "principle" changes.

[ThatsMyBarack]

20. Other...

I like pie.