Crude oil is supposed to stay underground where it belongs.

[Avalux]

Are human beings reaping what we've sowed? Has mother earth had enough of our abuse? Will this horrible tragedy be enough to make us all realize we are destroying ourselves, our animal friends and our home?


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[Subdivisions]

1. 'Will this horrible tragedy be enough...'

Sadly, no. You can't even get a discussion going about giving up oil on this forum. People don't want to hear it.

[babylonsister]

2. You might if you had a viable argument. What is it? How do you

get people to walk, or heat their homes, who live miles away from work and live in climates that insist on heat?

[Iwasthere]

4. TRY!

I drive a super comfortable 2001 Ford Excursion Diesel and you can eat your lunch sitting behing the exaust pipe. Had it converted to run on straight veggie (waste) oil, I can drive from Oregon to Florida for nothing, restaraunts are happy to give me all the fuel I want, they have to pay to have huaed away. I have no negative impact on the enviroment at all with this car. Am now looking for an old used electric car for my wife(sad I cannot buy a new one). Don't give me shit about the grid having to charge it either... Many ways to do that. Other countries are doing it. Our country is in a firm vice grip by the oil mega-industy. It is obvious if you open your eyes, have you watched the interviews with the Coast Guard jerk lately. Our only hope; Criminal prosecutions! Follow through President Obama, PLEASE follow through.

[demwing]

3. That's quite a statement. How do you support it?

I can think of several reasons why we shouldn't burn fossil fuels, but few that support the "oil belongs in the ground" theme.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Well while we are at Peak Oil

belongs in the ground...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100426-asphalt-volcanoes-domes-california-underwater/

And there is that La Brea tar pits which oozed for oh geologic time.

I guess our mother didn't want it down there either.

[knowbody0]

6. I've always wondered about the vast "emptiness"

where the oil once lay.

[Ozymanithrax]

7. Are you saying the La Brea Tar Pits, and other oil seaps...

including the Asphalt Volcanoes off the coast of California are unnatural?

The gusher in the gulf is man made, but there are plenty of areas around the world, under water and on land, where oil seeps to the surface in considerable quantities. The dead sea in the middle east is known for its seeps.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/27/off-the-california-coast-giant-volcanoes-made-of-asphalt/

[girl gone mad]

8. Really?

DUers have reduced themselves to comparing the deep water horizon disaster to the La Brea Tar Pits and natural oil seeps?

Are we getting our talking points straight from Rush Limbaugh now?

[TheKentuckian]

9. It's pitiful isn't it?

[Ozymanithrax]

11. Yes, the Opening statement on the OP is pitiful. n/t

[Ozymanithrax]

10. The OP's statement is utterly nonfactual, it has no link to reality, or accuracy...

Crude oil is supposed to stay underground where it belongs.

Crude oil is not a dog, or a some low class creature that stays where it is put. It is a 100% natural substance. It reaches the surface of the earth in thousands of places around the world. As a natural inanimate substance, it doesn't have a specific place where it belongs. If it did then all substances would have their place, then every time a person eats salt that person would be committing an abomination because either it should stay in the earth where it belongs or stay in the ocean (sea salt) where it belongs.

Because oil comes out of the earth, you and the OP have a computer to type that statement on. The average computer is at lest 75% oil. It simply would not exist if we left crude oil where it belongs. It's creation and development could not have happened in a world where oil were not utilized as we (our civilization) utilizes oil. Every time we set down to a meal, we are eating some crude oil. Crude oil is used to make fertilizer that grows the food on the table and grows the food fed to animals that end up on the table. Everything in our homes or apartments are there because of oil. It delivers the goods and is found as a component in almost every industrial process.

We should be able to discuss the abomination happening in the gulf without resorting to statements that have no basis in reality.

[Avalux]

12. Who the hell are you to lecture?

I was angry, not thinking logically after looking at all the pics of dying animals covered in oil. My post was a SCREAM.

Let me clarify - oil companies should not be drilling so deep below the surface when they don't have the technology to deal with a disaster like this. THAT crude oil should stay where it belongs, a mile under the surface of the ocean.

No apologies.

[Ozymanithrax]

13. I agree with your calirification...and I apologize if you felt I mischarachterized your OP.

At 58, I've learned to consider what I scream before I scream.

And those who answered me seemed to think my statements some Rushbaughian dribbling of talking points not just a call for clarification.

[KittyWampus]

15. Who knew you were having a tantrum? I didn't. In that case, kick and scream to your hearts content.

It does absolutely no good.

Maybe you should consider shutting off the computer and working outside. Or something.

[Avalux]

17. I've learned to not tell others how to handle their feelings.

You should probably do the same. Posting that helped me tremendously last night.

[KittyWampus]

14. More like, some DU'ers are reduced to saying the Natural world should not be cultivated.

Oil should stay underground? Really?

[BeFree]

18. Oh Bullshit

No one has said we shouldn't cultivate the natural world.

Why do you spew such bullshit? Why?

[BeFree]

16. I know why

Big oil didn't have enough money to do the job right.

They simply couldn't afford to do enough to keep the oil controlled.

It's not like the profit margin is very high these days.

Poor oil companies, poor, poor oil companies.