Tune Up Your Crystal Balls. What Happens Next With North Korea?

[GreenStormCloud]

It appears pretty firm that NK torpedoed and sunk that SK ship, killing 46 crewmen. SK is pissed off, and they have to do something to let Kim know that his actions have consequences.

Kim is threatening all out war if there are any consequences.

North Korea is entering a famine again. There are already numerous reports of people starving to death. In the 1990s they lost between one to two million people to starvation. That is between 5% to 10% of their population at the time.

China has stated that they will NOT come to the aid of the country that launched the torpedo. Altough they didn't name NK as such, that is a pretty heavy hint to Kim that if he starts something, he will have to finish it himself.

So plug in your crystal balls, break out the cards, look at the stars, or maybe even just think deeply. What do you see as happening in the next few months with respect to Korea?

[RandomThoughts]

1. It is not about crystal balls.

But their are things that occur outside of normal coincidence. There is a difference from saying what is, and noticing some things that are.

There is a pattern there.

I don't believe in reading tea leaves or crystal balls, they add someones own thoughts, although I do think it is important for people to know there is a supernatural world also.


I think people should make decisions based on thinking and feeling, but some synchronicity can create some thought on existence being more then just a normal world.


There are many comments on the meaning of dreams in many places, although there is a flaw if you assume the source is always honest, hence why things could mean one thing, or the opposite, however it does show that there is more then the normal world, and from that can give thoughts on some groups that want to dominate, and some that enjoy sharing joy. Or at least in my view.

[GreenStormCloud]

2. I was being funny by talking about crystal balls.

Since I was misunderstood, I don't believe in them either. I am asking DUer what they, upon thoughful reflection, think will happen.

[Motown_Johnny]

the dictator is old and dying

and since everything is about him he will try to take as many people with him when he goes

[GreenStormCloud]

7. I am afraid that he may try to unify SK in NK by force before he dies.

If he does attact SK there will be lots of destruction in Seoul and other parts close to the DMZ, then his military will be destroyed. SK will probably then invade NK to take care of NK permenantly.

China will say stuff, but they won't intervene. They will be thinking that a unified Korea under SK will become a good trading partner. China is now about making money instead of trying to export the Communist Revolution. Instead of "Workers of the world, unite." it is, "Workers of the world, get to work."

[thewiseguy]

3. Strained relationships until there is a change in the government of South Korea

Their prime minister is a conservative and he does not recognize or honor the agreements which the previous administration had with North Korea.

There will be some bickering btw the two countries and I hope that Obama's administration does not try and corner the North Koreans a whole lot on this one.

[GreenStormCloud]

5. NK is innocent of torpedoing the ship? N/T

[Better Believe It]

8. It might not have been approved by the top military brass and political leadership in North Korea

Until someone provides evidence this was not just military mistake, miscalculation or action by some rogue lower level military commander we have to consider that as plausible and a reasonable possibility.

If that's what actually happened, the North Korean Stalinist regime would not admit it and they would quietly court martial and probably execute any commander(s) responsible.

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(CNN) -- A North Korean official has questioned South Korea's credibility for its rhetoric and actions over the sinking of a South Korean warship in March, state-run media in North Korea reported Saturday.

Maj. Gen. Pak Rim Su lashed out against the South for saying the North Koreans sank the Cheonan warship, a claim fiercely denied by his communist government. He said the evidence produced by South Korea to make its claim has been fabricated.

He said South Korea has aggravated what has become a grave situation, and he warned that any accidental confrontation between the countries would result in war, according to an article in the state-run Korean Central News Agency. He cited North Korea's "nuclear deterrent" to deal with such situations.

Pak spoke at a rare press conference from the country on Friday. He addressed Korean and foreign reporters and representatives of military attaches at foreign embassies and international organizations, the North Korean news agency reported.
Pak said people who disagreed with the investigators' assertions were expelled from the investigation team. He said the changes in investigation results as the case moved forward cast suspicion on the review, according to the state-run news agency's account.

For example, the North Koreans say, the warship captain said at first there wasn't outside provocation but later said there was. And they say the military said at first there were no grounds to say it was an attack by the North but later changed that viewpoint.

The North Koreans say the South is attempting to undermine efforts to promote reconciliation and North Korea's progress. They argue that the claim has served to rally conservative forces in South Korea and help them politically in upcoming elections.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/05/29/north.korea.warship/index.html?hpt=T2

[lib2DaBone]

4. The magic crystal 8-ball sez..."all roads point to deceipt.."

..there is a rumor..(just a rumor... but it has been printed in Japenese Papers..)

Supposedly, the signiture of the torpedo that did the job, was identified as being made in Germany.

Would North Korea use a German Torpedo?

Hillary is over there now beating the war drums and handing out ultimatums... Hillary LOVES war. As does the DLC.

Obviously, Germany would have no interest in starting a war with NK..but you have to ask the question... ,"Who would benefit from a war to divert attention away from Depression II ?"

[GreenStormCloud]

6. Sorry, but I consider that as excessive tin foil. N/T

[lib2DaBone]

9. I don't know...Not such a stretch.. here's the Reuters article...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6460FC20100507

[GreenStormCloud]

10. So NK buys their torpedoes from Germany. So what?

That does not mean that NK didn't do it. Given the extremely backwards state of NK industry and the very low quality of their goods, I would expect them to buy as much of their arms from abroad as possible.

Would Kim benefit from a war to divert attention from starvation in NK?

[Imajika]

11. Nothing will come of it...

The South Korean people view it more as the price of doing business on the peninsula. Once in awhile the North will act out, everyone gets angry and throws some sanctions around, eventually the successful countries pay some food aid and heating oil bribes to North, and then things go back to normal.

No one wants a war, primarily because no one wants to deal with the refugee crisis that would follow the collapse of the North Korean regime. One way or the other, the North is dying and a war would just accelerate this. Everyone knows the North can not win a war against the South, all they can do is go out with a blaze of glory.

Communism has utterly failed in North Korea, as it does everywhere else. The hope is that the North will collapse in organized manner so it will be easier to deal with the humanitarian nightmare to follow. Kim may not care about his stunted and starving people, but the civilized world won't be able to ignore it.

[KharmaTrain]

12. More "Brinksmanship"

It's a true yin/yang game on the Korean peninsula. The North rattles a sabre and tries to extort some kind of payoff from the South or China. If it's not this incident, it's the nuke missile program or kidnapping...and for the most part the North is appeased and the crisis eases, until the next one. It's an iritant, but oddly the way the peace is kept in that region.

IMO, the North, while potent has deteriorated economically and militarily. Since millions live within range of the many missiles sitting on the Northern side of the border, it could create a lot of destruction and havoc in the opening days of a war, but over time, the economic and military might of the South (and its allies) would be too much for the North. The North hasn't had to mobilize and fight in 60 years and I am not convinced they're that strong in discipline. But the South doesn't want to endure the pains of another war. Again, a stand-off that has kept a balance of power in the region.

[Bonobo]

13. My guess is nothing will happen.

Empty threats.

Even crazy dying guys with bad hair have some sense of self-preservation.

No one here is Japan is sweating it much. North Korea is a joke.

That's just my opinion though. Take it with a grain of salt.

[BrentWil]

14. If I had to guess..

South Korea will go North within 5 years. The United States will aid. China will stay out of it, unlike last time. Korea will be unified again, but it will not be peaceful.