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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 08:52 PM
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If BP was thinking (I know oxymoron)
They would pay for clean up workers to fill all the hotels along the coast patronizing the hotels and restaurants, etc., for the duration of the clean up... they are going to pay a lot anyway and this would mitigate some of the lost business claims--at least from those hotels and areas they utilize in this way. It would certainly keep a bunch of people employed, too--the ones that are going to be laid off if those hotels and restaurants don't get any business.

I know that makes more sense than they can probably absorb at this point, but what the heck.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:05 PM
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1. Your motive in that thought is about what helps society.
Edited on Sat May-29-10 09:07 PM by RandomThoughts
It is about cleaning up the mess.
and keeping employment for the people impacted by the disaster.

With that thought first, there is still a better profit in it, think of the repair to reputation massive payments to clean up would create. Although it goes against profit first thoughts, even when it makes some sense in some profit thought.

Again should 'profit first' set social policy, or what society thinks in its best feeling and thought to be the best justice, and methods that help the most people.



Same thing with finance, it seems counter intuitive for profit first to keep people in their homes during foreclosures, but doing that gives a better outcome for society and even a modest profit for some bankers. But profit first does not see that, for them it is about taking profit.

Insurance companies that want large profits throw people off of insurance claims, that is profit first, but helping society with modest profit, and some are changing some actions, can help society and stop the downward spiral of that industry.

Thinking society first, with modest profit, is the only way any profit is sustainable, since profit first in everything will have to take everything, and that is not sustainable.

Increasing nurse and doctors educated helps society, and is society first thought, but it does not help with scarcity needed for more profit, so again profit first hinders some graduates.

Moving production to ways that improve living conditions gives more money for people to buy things, but that means less money for groups that think in profit first.

Profit first also thinks if they get the money they can then give it out to ways they think is best, but to get the money the profit first system the way it is, must be able to think in terms of hurting people, so then they spend that money, if they decide how it is spent in ways with their profit first mentality, things like PR or creation of systems that think like they do.

There are many mostly good people with much money, but the ideologies get in the way of what they want to do from that good side, and the system pushes them to not be able to do what they want, and what they think is best, or even sometimes, within the system thoughts of money first, to take over and make other sectors worse.

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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 09:15 PM
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2. There are probably a number of similar initiatives
that could prove to be some level of win-win if these people were thinking.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:10 PM
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3. There is a point on the topic that should be mentioned also.
Some think consolidation of weath is good, because then with that wealth, they can use it for charity. The problem is when the system to get wealth does not requier better thoughts, or even tries to train worse thoughts, then the use of the funds becomes from that ideology. Which is one of the reasons there should not be conditions on charity, since acquisition of consolidate wealth, and ability to decide where social resources should go do not always match up.

Also should a small number of people, that have shown they will hurt to get wealth decide where that wealth should go?

Just a concept on the people that think they have to get all the money so they can decide where it goes based on concepts of what they think is best, and maybe not where society thiks it is best used.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 07:21 PM
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4. The problem is they will fight to pay as little as possible. Except for lawyers of course.
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