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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:29 PM
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ruh roh! Obama tells Netanyahu, on phone, he needs 'facts' ASAP
RUH ROH!

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=177041

Obama tells Netanyahu on phone: We need raid 'facts' ASAP


US President Barak Obama postpones Oval Office meeting with the prime minister, presses for IDF flotilla-raid details, expresses "deep regret at loss of life."
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:31 PM
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1. all he's going to get from Netanyahu are lies and propaganda....
Edited on Mon May-31-10 02:31 PM by mike_c
The usual spin in defense of murder and apartheid.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:32 PM
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2. K & R nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:32 PM
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3. There are several US citizens on board those ships
Obama could get plenty of facts from them.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:33 PM
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4. All he will get is spin.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:35 PM
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5. Fortunately, Israel is an expert manufacturer of "facts".
And excels in creating them in all shapes and sizes to suit their political needs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:36 PM
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6. Our president has quite a sense of humor. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:36 PM
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7. He's asking NuttyYahoo for facts?
Isn't that like asking Rupert Murdoch for "news"?
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:48 PM
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13. +1,000,000 n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:37 PM
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8. That's kind of my attitude too
I have yet to reach a judgement on what happened here. I need the facts, and I am not expecting to get them from Natanyahu or the corporate media, or professional Israel haters either.

It may take me several weeks to form an opinion about this issue, as I am paying more attention to the oil spill now anyway.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:40 PM
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9. I know someone who went to high school with Netanyahu in NYC
Edited on Mon May-31-10 02:51 PM by hlthe2b
he honed his ability to spin and manipulate the facts on our turf, it seems. :shrug:

On edit, it was apparently in Pennsylvania--been awhile since I heard my colleague's story...
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:48 PM
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14. Yes, he did.
'Between 1956 and 1958, and again in 1963-67,<7> his family lived in the United States in Cheltenham, Pennsylvania, a suburb of Philadelphia, where he attended and graduated from the Cheltenham High School and was active in a debate club. . .

After his army service Netanyahu returned to the United States, studied and eventually earned a B.S. degree in architecture from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, in 1975, a M.S. degree from the MIT Sloan School of Management in 1977, and studied political science at Harvard University and MIT. At that time he changed his name to Benjamin Ben Nitai (Nitai was the nickname that his father often used to sign his articles).<8> Years later, in an interview with the media, Netanyahu clarified that he decided to do so to make it easier on his environment at the time, which was not fluent in Hebrew, so that they would be able to pronounce his name more easily. This fact has been used by his political rivals to accuse him indirectly of a lack of Israeli national identity and loyalty. . .

While studying, Netanyahu worked at the Boston Consulting Group in Boston, Massachusetts.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:42 PM
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10. Hey, Israel's just defending itself, Obama! Now send some more billions our way.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:43 PM
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11. Maybe he looks in his eyes and sees Bibi's soul?
I wouldn't trust the Israeli Govt any more than I would trust BP. Obama seems to have a tendency to believe and trust criminals.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:44 PM
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12. Like the US would ever respond in any way other than acceptance.
:eyes:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:50 PM
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15. Pres. Obama cancelled the meeting? But MSNBC was reporting this
morning that it was Netanyahu that cancelled.

So, which is it?



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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:51 PM
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16. One is a US Flagged Ship
...The convoy includes the “Mavi Marmara,” a large Turkish-flagged passenger vessel with about 600 people on board, two cargo ships and three other boats.

Two other boats are also Turkish-flagged, while another two are Greek and one more is from the United States.

A seventh ship, the 1,200-tonne “Rachel Corrie,” named after an American who was crushed to death by an Israeli army bulldozer in Gaza in 2003, was en route from Ireland to join the flotilla... http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100531/FOREIGN/705319968/1001
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:58 PM
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17. It really wouldn't matter too much if it was US Flagged
as the USS Liberty was flying the US Flag when it was attacked for hours by the IDF in International Waters.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 03:01 PM
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18. I think it matters to Americans though...
Edited on Mon May-31-10 03:01 PM by JCMach1
It makes this an act of piracy against a US vessel.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 03:03 PM
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19. So was the attack on the USS Liberty
with the death of US Sailors, but that warranted no response or much of an explanation.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 03:12 PM
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20. We need to demand one... Netanyahu and the IDF need to pay
preferably politically for this one...
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:59 PM
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21. True, but the attack on USS Liberty
was hidden in the media. This time it's out for the whole world to see, complete with live footage of (part of) the attack on the Tuskish ship by IDF. Activists all over the world are seething. Major demonstrations are or will soon be held practically everywhere. It's our only chance.
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