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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:43 PM
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Progressives frustrated: "Democrats appear tone deaf to the economic troubles of the working class"

Can Democrats Wrestle The Populist Mantle From The Tea Partiers?
by Stephanie Condon
June 7, 2010

WASHINGTON -- On the eve of a primary day in which populist anger could shake up some key midterm elections, progressives are insisting Democrats can capture the energy that has largely been associated with the Tea Party - and they are expressing resentment towards the Democratic Party for failing to so far do so.

"Voters are extremely upset about the direction of the country and the state of the economy," Celinda Lake, president of Democratic polling group Lake Research Partners, said today. She was speaking at the America's Future Now conference, a progressive conference organized by the group Campaign for America's Future.

The Tea Party has served as the primary vehicle for those frustrations over the past year, Lake and others at the conference said, in large part because Democrats appear tone deaf to the economic troubles of the working class.

Democrats have only themselves to blame for allowing the right to seize populist anger, said Drew Westen, a political strategist and professor at Emory University.

With majorities in both chambers of Congress, Democrats passed a $15 billion jobs bill - "large enough to cover roughly half the city of Detroit," Westen said derisively.

Yet as Republicans refuse to cooperate with Democrats, he said, "The White House refuses to tell the American people why the American economy has gone into this ditch."

Westen blasted the administration for failing to hold executives responsible for the economic recession and for cutting "secret deals" with health insurance and pharmaceutical executives during the health care debate.

Yet while the Tea Party has seized the populist mantle that could have benefited the left, progressives at the conference remained hopeful they could win back some of those voters.

Read the full article at:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20007015-503544.html


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Progressives criticize White House, Democrats
By PHILIP ELLIOTT
Associated Press Writer
June 7, 2010

WASHINGTON - Progressive activists who helped elect Barack Obama president complained on Monday that the administration and congressional Democrats have been too timid and too willing to compromise.

Even though Obama's major first-term achievement — an overhaul of the nation's health care system — passed without a single Republican vote, progressive leaders who gathered in Washington criticized the president for failing to create a government-run insurance option to compete with private industry.

They faulted Obama for the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the slow pace in repealing the ban on gays serving in the military and last year's economic stimulus package, which they described as inadequate at $787 billion. They also criticized his handling of the Gulf oil spill.

The White House has been an uncertain trumpet," said Robert Borosage, a co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, a progressive organization. "The administration's reforms were too often too timid from the start and too readily compromised along the way."

Although leaders still spoke with admiration for Obama, it was clear he's not as popular with unions, bloggers and other progressives.

Read the full article at:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37559024/ns/politics/

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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:48 PM
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1. Honestly...
How many of us have been saying this for years now?

I know I have.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:52 AM
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23. Yeah, my initial response to this was: "Duh"
Tell me something I don't know.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:50 PM
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2. My optimistic side wants to side with Thom Hartmann on this
Just this morning, Thom repeated something he has said often - that FDR was emboldened to do what he did to save this country because he knew the people had his back. And also that Reagan and Chimpy were emboldened to do the WRONG thing, because they had fanatical followers backing them up. (Chimp also had a compliant whore media, but that's beside the point.)

Thom's theory is that Obama may still prove to be an actual Democrat if he knows the people have his back. And the more DINO's we throw out of office, the stronger that message becomes.

Like I said, my optimistic side agrees with him. My pessimistic side looks at his cabinet and doesn't see much chance of any real progress. But it couldn't hurt to get rid of useless DINO's like Blanche WalMart and Jane Whoreman anyway.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:11 PM
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5. Obama has made his leanings clear
He prefers centrist dems to progressives. He's said as much several times. He won't even give lip service to progressive ideas. He goes out and brags that he rejects them. He can be pulled left, but he won't be enticed left.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:29 PM
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9. Pulled, dragged, bullied, threatened
THAT is the only way this President is going left. As long as he thinks he can get re elected because "left wing" supporters will simply vote for him out of habit, he will continue to scorn the progressives. Obama is a coward who only compromises with those factions who threaten to fight him. He is so conflict averse, he makes Gandhi look like a prize fighter.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:37 PM
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10. So then....
...it's really us Liberals and Progressives holding his feet to the fire and demanding better of this President, who are TRULY supporting him, not the Message Discipline LLC flunkies kissing his ass.

Right? :crazy:
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:46 PM
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12. Congress will be the key
A more progressive congress, elected over the hand picked congressmen and senators of the White House, will feel little "loyalty" to the Rahm crowd and will pay more attention to the progressive leadership in this country. Obama will have to go along to get along and avoid as much "drama" as possible.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:27 PM
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19. good luck with that...
The power of incumbency makes it almost impossible to get rid of congresscritters.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:57 AM
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24. +1, nt
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:41 PM
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11. well that gives me hope
I respect Thom. But I'll remain skeptical until I see it all actually happen, get enforced, penalties with teeth, and it all brings results. THEN...
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:14 PM
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13. I wish I could share your enthusiasm, but from day one he has made it abundantly clear
that he is a royalist doing the bidding of his masters.


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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:49 AM
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20. We had his back
and he sold us out to Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan... and now to BP.

Or at least whoever is really calling the shots while he gets paraded from media event to media event did.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:00 PM
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3. The Tea Klux Klowns are now "Populists"??
TeaBirthers only care about themselves.

These GOP ass-trollops voted for 10 to 30, possibly even 45 YEARS of Republican Fried Unbridled Corporatism. They lived (and still live) in a fantasy world where taxes get lowered and lowered until they're not taxed and there'll never be a bill come due and those wealthy, hard working CEOs, freed from the burden of those exorbitant taxes those evuuuuul Democrats made them pay (even though it was Reagan, Eisenhower and Nixon that had the high tax rates also), will finally rain jobs on the middle/working/poor classes . . . just like Uncle Milty and Faux Noose said they would.

So now they finally realize their Fantasyland turns into Turdtown AFTER a Democrat becomes President?

They can shove their misspelled signs straight up their corpulent asses.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:14 PM
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17. That's what happens when the leadership fails to respond
Issues and movements get coopted.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:59 AM
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27. They're just republicans relabeled
the whole thing is B.S.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:43 PM
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29. The problem is...
That populism isn't always a good thing. Sometimes it gets coopted, subverted, tricked, or distracted, and sometimes it can even be converted towards conservative elitism by way of creating sympathy towards those in power and advesarial opinions towards a scapegoat.


Don't get me wrong, populism in progressives is a very good thing with a great understanding of equality of opportunity and I am a strong believer in doing what is good by the people.

But populism can also be delusional and the Astro-tea party is a prime example of manufactured rage preformed for the media.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:10 PM
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4. If I believed in conspiracy theories...
I would think the repukes knew that there was a populist movement brewing among Democrats..and they knew that if we had a media with balls, and a more organized party....that this movement would sweep the nation. They knew the country was sick and tired of wall street and big banks..and lobbyists and health insurance companies, big pharma and on and on. In order to blunt that movement..they created their own - very confused -populist movement and called them the tea party.
They gave them the "populist" label and told them to make signs that were anti-government get out there and make some noise. It threw the Democrats into disarray and focused the ADD media on their crazy antics.
Now we've lost the "populist" opportunity and will have a hard time ever getting it back.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:21 PM
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7. You should research your hunches re conspiracy theories.
I believe there is evidence for big money rw think tank originating Teabaggers. There've been a few articles posted on it here, IIRC.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:15 PM
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14. Do you believe in actual conspiracies? n/t
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:04 PM
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16. The Teabaggers are bought and paid for
As to actual motives, you'll have to ask the people who created them.

It really shows the power of the media though, doesn't it? Millions of us protest and they don't report it. It never happened. They get 500 stooges to gather and report it all over the place, and it's a movement.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:18 PM
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18. I've been thinking that same thing. n/t
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 07:47 AM
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22. Not a far-fetched idea at all..
sounds completely reasonable, the way the corporate media road in to the rescue of a pathetic political party is well documented. Hell, the general shouldn't have been as close as it was.

The question is, how do the libs/progressive get it back?? With Arkansas keeping their corporate whore in place, I see the media spinning this as a repudiation of the "labor" backed canidate and when she looses in Nov. it will be the repudiation of Prez Obama and his "far-left" agenda (lol)..
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:02 AM
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25. agreed!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:12 PM
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6. knr
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:23 PM
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8. Problem: "tone deaf" suggests that there's a misunderstanding or miscommunication when there's not
Collusion, not coincidence
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:06 PM
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15. Republican response: Oh, my! Let me help by making this worse.
Let's not forget that Obama's turn to the right is nowhere near where the Right has taken US.

Now. Let us move Obama further to our left.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:51 AM
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21. 'Let us move Obama further to our left.' Ain't gonna happen. nt
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 08:06 AM
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26. trust me it wont happen...
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:32 PM
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28. Feel free to keep your faith, practice your religion of it ain't gonna happen.
But, I hope you're provably wrong.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:45 PM
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30. I think almost all of us hope they're wrong. Unfortunately, it doesn't look good.
Do you think we actually enjoy posting "we told you so" as the nation swirls down the drain?


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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:56 PM
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31. No, it doesn't look good. But, it's looking better.
Most troubling is that long road of bad, getting better, before it could look good.

BTW, thanks for the new picture, the other seemed a little too personal. Nice, but, personal.

Now, how to move Obama to where we want him... DU activist corps?
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