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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:47 PM
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FDA claims infected pigs from china OK to eat??!
Edited on Thu May-10-07 10:48 PM by undergroundpanther
just like the melamide ..uh huh..

Woman sick after eating tainted pet food
An Ottawa woman is recovering after becoming violently ill after eating some of her dog's food, in a case likely related to the tainted pet food that has killed several dogs and cats and sickened dozens more across North America.

In this case, a canine and its master wound up in hospital - Missy at the Alta Vista Animal Hospital and Elaine Larabie at an after-hours emergency room.


http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f5a44797-005c-4df5-ad43-e1d844768c49&k=0

About those Pigs
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=6077
The disease, which has occurred predominately in China's Sichuan province, has infected 206 people, of which 38 have died and another 18 are critically ill.

http://www.terradaily.com/news/epidemics-05k.html
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=6077


Move along nothing to see here..FDA declares chinese pigs ok to eat even with people sick and dead in china and nobody knowing for sure what ther"mystery" virus might be a bioweapon or mutated Ebola or "blue ear disease?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PEK237753.htm

Pigs, it turns out, are remarkably efficient incubators for viruses to mutate into new forms. A pig can be exposed to a flu virus transmitted by a bird and then to a second virus spread by a human. Once both viruses set up shop inside the pig, they can begin swapping genetic secrets, with the result being a viral recombination - and a novel strain of the flu.
http://www.conservationmedicine.org/news/boston_globe_2003.htm

http://clinicalfreedom.org/Nichol1.htm

Linked to ebola fancy that ..Paging Dr Wiley? Oh you are dead,I see, and dead men can't talk..
http://www.smh.com.au/news/health/mystery-deaths-in-china-linked-to-pigs/2005/07/26/1122143828354.html

China's study oof bird flu is a "national secret" isn't that special..

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/apr1607china.html
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-7-25/30562.html
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2005/08/h5n1-virus-x-and-frightening-flash.html

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 10:54 PM
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1. Impressive effort linking together tons of unrelated issues.
Edited on Thu May-10-07 10:55 PM by Kagemusha
There's one thing you should be angry about - the FDA's investigators getting to the factories in China where the melamine contamination supposedly happened to find them boarded up, closed, all machinery dismantled and moved out. That is directly related, and that is an insult to the United States by China.

But your insinuating that China's importing Ebola-infected pig meat into the US isn't very factually supported. It's not what I would call a scientific method. (Edited out a less kind way of putting that - I'm not trying to carry water for the China government. Not one bit.)
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:35 PM
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10. Well
The melamine taint went on for quite awhile before it got found out,and the FDA said that was NOT the cause of pet deaths for HOW long?

The dying pigs are selling for dirt cheap in china right now.Tell me what greedy dirty psychopath businessman in the US looking for cheapo pork would refuse an insane cheep deal on some questionable pork? The businessman looking for cheap pork has little to fear if the FDA is already saying it's all ok to eat pork in advance of even knowing what the hell is making the pigs sick,and the situation with the pigs have killed some people in china? How long will some people be eating pigs from china and get sick before the FDA will admit chinese pigs are sick and could make us sick.How long does it take for the FDA to say ANYTHING is dangerous? Voluntary recalls my ass. We do import pork from two provinces in China.We export it too.Can you tell if a pig came from china from a US pig when it's cut into pork chops in a supermarket?

I can't.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:00 PM
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2. why would we have to buy pork from china?
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:07 PM
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3. I am an aficinanado of asian foods.
Edited on Thu May-10-07 11:17 PM by junofeb
Check your sources for 'Lop chong' and other chinese-style pork sausages. Most of my stores get it from Taiwan, vietnam or thailand, but keep an eye out. Hate to say it, when eating in chinese restaurants, I would bypass fried rice and a few other sausage-based dishes in chinese (thai and vietnamese don't use the sausage as much...) cuisine. Otherwise, as long as they aren't mislabeling American piggies, we should be OK.

edit to say: This sucks. Chinese sausages are one of the tastiest things around.

Double edit: Don't count out the asian stores completely. They sell non GMO rice. Mostly from Thailand, in my experience. About 25 dollars for a 25-pound bag. Happy hunting.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:22 PM
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8. Thanks for the tips
I like good chinese and asian foods too.
But since pork imports will be rising I'd say just be more careful.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:06 AM
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11. Thanks, UGP
Edited on Fri May-11-07 12:07 AM by junofeb
I enjoy your posts, BTW :) Good luck, Hope all is going well with you.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:07 AM
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12. Thanks
Glad you are here too :)
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:19 PM
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6. Same reason we got wheat gluten
Cheap!!!
China's beef and pork exports in 2007 are both forecast to increase by 3 percent, and Singapore recently agreed to import beef from 2 Chinese Provinces
http://www.usdachina.org/info_details1.asp?id=1618
We export alot of pork but we import it too.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:10 PM
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4. I think it's cute the way the FDA
tells their own people the food isn't safe while at the same time they tell the rest of us it's perfectly safe.

:sarcasm:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:13 PM
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5. They don't want any pregnant employees near any of the 'safe' foods
Face it, America, your government has been hijacked by corporations who will kill for a few extra pennies profit.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:27 PM
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9. Hell yeah
They don't care who suffers and dies, but they wanna control the women's bodies so warnings go out to pregnant women, to save fetuses and fuck everyone else..The fetus must be protected even if it violates a womans body or privacy until the fetuses are born of course, than they are up a creek if their momma can't take care of them. because she works all day and can't get daycare and government services are cut because a CEO might not be able to get a third yacht without that fat tax cut... All the already born people are expendable to these greedy assholes it seems.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-10-07 11:21 PM
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7. That was the main gist of my OP
To show different veiws on these issues of imported foods with no reglations,than the "official" nothing to see here.. FDA veiw.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:28 AM
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13. Let the people at the FDA try it first, and then they can have a
BBQ at the Capital, finishing up w/one at the WH, If they are still OK some 96 hours later, they should do it again, just to make sure.

I've always believed that if someone comes up w/an idea that seems a little "off", make 'em show how good the idea is...:D If that logic were followed, the Mullahs in Iraq would blow themselves up, the Iranians would sit on uranium for a couple of months, drug dealers would become drug addicts and be REALLY miserable...all kinds of things could be easily worked out to the benefit of the world...:D
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-11-07 12:36 AM
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14. Another INFESTED agency thanks to BUSH
Edited on Fri May-11-07 12:37 AM by 48percenter
The FDA lost it's credibility a long time ago. IMHO, they are another tool of Big Business interests. Along with USDA...etc.

Think we've got Mad Cow here? What you say non-believers? I've been arguing since 2000 that BSE is alive and well in America's herds, and people say I am a conspiracy theorist.
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