Okay, just linking some...well, links to my tinfoil hat. Put yours on and join me.

[Javaman]

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:


3 recent stories have made me sit up and take notice.

here are the headlines, a blurb and the links.

Bush orders contingency plans for attack on U.S.

\WASHINGTON — President Bush issued a formal national security directive Wednesday ordering agencies to prepare contingency plans for a surprise, "decapitating" attack on the federal government, and assigned responsibility for coordinating such plans to the White House.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-attack10may10,1,2436652.story?coll=la-news-a_section&ctrack=1&cset=true,


U.S. won’t allow governors to direct military

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Robert Gates has rejected a proposal to let governors command active duty troops responding to disasters, officials said Wednesday, though the Pentagon will grant National Guard leaders more authority to coordinate with other military and homeland security agencies.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18582104


Contingencies for nuclear terrorist attack


As concerns grow that terrorists might attack a major American city with a nuclear bomb, a high-level group of government and military officials has been quietly preparing an emergency survival program that would include the building of bomb shelters, steps to prevent panicked evacuations and the possible suspension of some civil liberties.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/11/TERROR.TMP

What say you? Tinfoil?

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[seemslikeadream]

1. I put mine back on

2 minutes ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x867431


To be honest I never take it off

[petunia.here]

25. I don't think we could afford to take it off.

It's the only way to keep up with these psychos.

[seemslikeadream]

32. Love YOUR space

:hi:

[petunia.here]

36. Thanks.

Hit me up if you're on myspace.

"steps to prevent panicked evacuations and the possible suspension of some civil liberties."

This absolutely terrifies me. For my children's sake.

[PDJane]

2. No..........

Especially since they're conducting "exercises" to prepare for that contingency.

By the way, all it needs for martial law to be put in place is the president's signature. The infrastructure for fascism is there.

[Atman]

9. They were conducting "exercises" for an attack on NYC on 9/11, too.

You're probably just using cheap store-brand tin-foil.

.

[woodsprite]

27. And we all know he's been practicing his sig by issuing signing statements.

I've heard he doesn't even use crayon anymore. He's moved up to permanent marker.

[havocmom]

3. All that had me adding metal layers to my bonnet this week

Figure when Dick leaves the bunker for the Green Zone, things are hot, he is feeling cornered and getting more dangerous by the minute.

Kick the press out? Really, Dick? And what are you worried the press might notice?

I hope the good spooks have their ducks in line with the generals, cuz Dick is not likely to give up willingly.

[intheflow]

4. It says to me that this administration is delusional and paranoid.

BUT:

1) just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you;

and

2) life is freakin' dangerous for us all living under a delusional and paranoid wannabe dictatorship;

and

3) life is freakin' dangerous for all life living on this planet when the most powerful military in human history is under the control of a delusional and paranoid administration.

I don't see anything tinfoil hat-like about this. :(

[Hissyspit]

13. That's what I was thinking - nothing tinfoil here. It's not like these people

haven't verified almost all of the paranoid fantasies about them, from the past - and then some.

[woodsprite]

33. I want to know if the people in Congress - the Carpers, Bidens, etc

are scared. If they aren't, then they truly are as delusional as the rest of this admin. Are they afraid for their families and loved ones? The future (or not) that they'll have? If they're afraid, do they have safe places, maybe out of this country, to send their loved ones? And they're just really planning on letting everyone else get toasted or rounded up. Maybe the whole kit and caboodle (or what's left if... you know...) are planning on taking a junket to Paraguay. I tell you, if I see the repubs all leaving, I think we all better cut out post haste.

I think they just go day to day and don't *REALLY* think Bushco would do anything *THAT* bad. I know a retired school admin, who is friends with Tom Carper, who feels that people - all people - are inheritantly good, and it will eventually will out, so he's not really worried.

Sorry, but I believe that nobody in this admin has ever been inheritantly good - evil, yes - good, no way.

[intheflow]

38. I believe that people are inherently good.

It's the systems that we create, the way we interact with each other and the world, that gives rise to evil. For instance, Cheney by himself (good or evil) could do little to harm the planet, it's that others work with him to bring about the carnage we see in our government today. But even Cheney probably plays and laughs with his grandchildren*, and he probably truly believes that what he is doing is for the best. As I said, they're delusional and paranoid, but mental illness doesn't make someone inherently evil.



*Let me beat someone to the punch:
Cheney laughs and plays with his grandchildren when he isn't eating them or indoctrinating them into Republican cultism. :evilgrin:
This is how I think about Darth Cheney most of the time, but intellectually I recognize that only viewing our political foes as caricatures renders them into two-dimensions. I'm pretty sure that's exactly how they se us, so why would I want to emulate that behavior? Reality is always infinitely more complicated and challenging.

[BlackHawk706867]

5. Lets hope that the military commanders will foil this thing, or we ...

are in deep shit! Imagine, really GWB and Dick being the sole decision makers in the US with no oversite, now thats scary indeed.

ww

[seemslikeadream]

7. all part of the plan

:hi:

[lildreamer316]

45. No pun intended?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Welcome to DU! btw.

[bdamomma]

6. are they going to be coming out with a "new video of Osama" too

to complete their FEAR CAMPAIGN. :tinfoilhat:

[havocmom]

15. I saw the trailer....

they have him making toast & tea for Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Barack Obama while Rudy Guliani sneaks up on them in a camo evening gown.

[Theres-a]

37. !

:spray:

[NMDemDist2]

52. I'm nominating this post for a DUzy

cuz it is a darned tooting DUzy of a snark

:yourock:

[bmcatt]

8. These days, it feels like it's always tinfoil time...

And I, for one, absolutely hate it.

I hate the politics of fear. Especially when the ones that I wind up fearing the most are the ones in power in my own government. I'm not worried about semi-nameless, semi-faceless terrorists. If the Israelis (who face day-to-day terrorism a heck of a lot more often than we do) refuse to live in fear, why should I?

But the indications (and inclinations) have certainly been there for a long time. I have a hard time believing that those currently in power in the US have any desire or even willingness to simply fade away when their time has come. I'm sure there are those who'd think it's very tinfoilish of me, but I would be unsurprised if "something" happened that resulted in the current administration needing (for whatever reason) to stay in power ("for the good of the country"). *sigh*

*wondering when 1945 will roll around (again) and our particular nightmare will end...*

[BlackHawk706867]

11. I have been saying that, and getting poo poo'ed for it... These guys have ..

never considered relinquishing power from day 1. They totally have plans to steal the entire show, and always have had since 9/11 ... MHO of course...

ww

[Mist]

18. I've been thinking something like this could happen ever since this

MAL-administration took office. And with their approval ratings so low...

C'mon, they haven't instituted Bushco and screwed with the Constitution just to leave office in a year and a half.

They're no doubt a bit put off by their huge lack of popularity, but that ultimately is just a small consideration.

No, you're not "tin-foily" at all.

[truedelphi]

42. And there are all these subtle signs that a nuke attack is a possibility

A nuke brought here in a suitcase has been a viable scenario since the 1980's (if not before)

but now every time I turn on the TV there is either a program about it (CNN's dirty bomb program -part of an hour long "investigation"), or a mention of it.

I don't think that they care a twit about the lack of popularity etc.

After a major catastrophe, when the shadow government goes into effect, We the People will have the same meaning to the Bushies and the other fascist neocons as did the New Orleans' folks clinging to the rooftops in Sept 2005.

[bdamomma]

10. would you consider sending these three articles to Keith??

this needs to be "noticed".

[e-mail]

[donsu]

12. I think the neo cons are going to attack Iran soon

with the neo con Israeli's help

with planned accompanying chaos in Washington, D.C.

I'd prefer to be wrong

[seemslikeadream]

17. Cheney Warns Iran Sea Lanes Must Be Open

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2842348&mesg_id=2842348

[BlackHawk706867]

21. If they attack Iran you can bet your ass this world is a gonner...

I've said it before, Russia and China will be into this thing like ugly on an ape... and complete shit will hit the fan...

ww

[bmcatt]

28. It would make WWII look like a tea party. n/t

[Jim Warren]

14. Spot on

These three very stories have been rattling around my brain pan like a lag bolt in a bucket.
Thanks for putting them in one post, when I have gone looking for they have moved way down through the back pages.

Hate to see them end up lost in the din, down the memory hole.

[seemslikeadream]

16. There Is Blood on the Wire - IRAN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFowNFvmUxw

I've been waiting for something to happen
For a week or a month or a year
With the blood in the ink of the headlines
And the sound of the crowd in my ear
You might ask what it takes to remember
When you know that youve seen it before
Where a government lies to a people
And a country is drifting to war

And theres a shadow on the faces
Of the men who send the guns
To the wars that are fought in places
Where their business interest runs

On the radio talk shows and the t.v.
You hear one thing again and again
How the u.s.a. stands for freedom
And we come to the aid of a friend
But who are the ones that we call our friends--
These governments killing their own?
Or the people who finally can't take any more
And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone
There are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

Theres a shadow on the faces
Of the men who fan the flames
Of the wars that are fought in places
Where we cant even say the names

They sell us the president the same way
They sell us our clothes and our cars
They sell us every thing from youth to religion
The same time they sell us our wars
I want to know who the men in the shadows are
I want to hear somebody asking them why
They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are
But they're never the ones to fight or to die
And there are lives in the balance
There are people under fire
There are children at the cannons
And there is blood on the wire

Bush's Inconceivable Interest in Iran Sat Apr-01-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=819437

Senior U.S. Officials “Want to Hit Iran” Tue Apr-04-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=844418

Larisa Alexandrovna: CHENEY TAPS IRANIAN ARMS DEALER FOR IRAN TALKS Thu Apr-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=977234

Seymour Hersh said something startling about Rumsfeld on Democracy Now Fri Aug-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1936421

So former DLC, PNAC member Abram Shulsky feeding Cheney info on Iran?Sat Aug-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1944614

Fuck. Iran has started "war games." Escalation may only be expected.Sun Aug-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1949812

Attack on Iran is Coming Sun Aug-27-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1993284

"Grave threat". Yes, it's deja vu all over again. Thu Aug-31-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2022620

UN attacks US nuclear report on Iran erroneous misleading unsubstantiated Sun Sep-17-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2159951

We Are Conducting Military Operations Inside Iran Right Now Tue Sep-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2168218

Navy told: Prepare to blockade Iran by Oct 1 Mon Sep-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2161779

Pentagon Iran Office Mimics Former Iraq Office Wed Sep-20-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2179484

“This is the largest massing of military power in the region, and it is gathering for a reason.” Sat Nov-18-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2753952

Seymour Hersh: Cheney Says 'Whether Or Not Dems Win-NO STOPPING Military Option With Iran' Sun Nov-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2757350

Does anyone still believe the US will launch a full scale invasion of Iran? Mon Dec-04-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2856177

Saudi clerics rally support for Sunnis and Saudi ambassador Abruptly ResignsTue Dec-12-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2902643

Act III in a Tragedy of Many Parts - The US Occupation of Iraq Sun Dec-17-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2935498

Century Foundation Iran White Paper Series Fundamentalists, Pragmatists and the Rights of the Nation Tue Dec-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2948146

Oh shit Tue Dec-19-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2944423

[Jim Warren]

19. Wow

Just Wow.

[seemslikeadream]

20. Cheney Is Pushing Israeli Strikes Against Iran With Arab Allies

I just read this somewhere, don't think a link is acceptable here

[Roland99]

22. Remember Jeb Bush's directive just days/weeks before 9/11??

Something to do with putting the State National Guard under his control or something....

[seemslikeadream]

23. and will all our National Guard in Iraq

BLACKWATER!

[Virginia Dare]

24. I'd be happy to...

friends don't let friends tin foil alone...

[Junkdrawer]

26. Cheney: 'Game time' in Iraq

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/09/cheney-its-game-time-in-iraq/

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. Cheney:‘then we kick the press out.’” (of Iraq)

Cheney overheard in Iraq: ‘Kick the press out.’

“Once safely ensconced in Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone, however, Cheney appeared to reserve his toughest language for his normal target — the press. Cheney held a lot of photo ops with key Iraqi leaders like Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, but was adamant about not taking questions. At one point, Cheney emphasized to the assembled journalists that ‘this is just a photo spray.’ Later in the day, as reporters filed into an embassy conference room for another photo of Cheney they overheard him tell his staff ‘then we kick the press out.’”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/09/cheney-overheard-in-iraq-kick-the-press-out/

[seemslikeadream]

29. In an interview with Al Arabiya television,

In an interview with Al Arabiya television, that aired on May 9, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, referring to Iran, declared that "The American president will not abandon the military option, and I believe that we do not want him to do so." While Rice also emphasized that the Bush Administration preferred a diplomatic solution, her words echoed enough of the Cheney sentiments that they will be read as a further indication that the Bush Administration is still looking to depose the regime in Tehran through military action.


link unacceptable here

[Warpy]

30. Mine has been in place since December 12, 2000

which is the day the USSC acted outside the bounds of the constitution, tradition, and law to install a fucking moron into the presidency, heading the most insanely corrupt cabinet this country has ever been cursed with.

It's going to stay on until this gang wannabe kings is gone and everything they passed as law is overturned and every one of their appointees fired.

[maine_raptor]

31. Sure glad I live in the backwoods.

:rofl:

If Bush is talking about a "decapitating nuclear attack", then such an event would have to happen in DC. Right?

Any nuke has to have fissile material, otherwise it ain't a nuke. That stuff gives off a lot of particles and waves and can be detected fairly well (yes, it can be shielded, but to make sure you're not leaking, you gotta have a LOT of shielding and that makes it big, bulky, and noticeable).

Now, goggle "NEST Teams" (if you don't know about them already.)

I'm willing to bet there are quite a few of these folks running around the DC area. So if a nuke DID go off in DC, then someone's got some 'spainin' to do.

Now as too them setting one off in ANOTHER city, I would like to hope that there would be one member of this cabal with an actual spark of humanity.

But like I said, sure glad I live out in the woods.

[BlackHawk706867]

34. I suspect that it would be DC, and more specifically Congress/Senate...

That would mean that there would be no group left to rule (with oversite) other than the Bush Cabal..

ww

[Mind_your_head]

41. The Shadow Government

<snip>
Let’s get one thing straight: The Bush “Continuity of Government” plan, less charitably known as the “Shadow Government” was designed to keep Republicans alone alive.

According to the Associated Press today (March 5), “President Bush’s spokesman disputed complaints from lawmakers who said they were not informed that the administration had established a ‘shadow government’ outside Washington in case nuclear-armed terrorists strike the nation's capital.”

On Sunday March 3, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, Democrat, said he wanted Bush to keep congressional leaders better informed about the war on terrorism and the shadow government, saying no lawmakers knew about the continuity of government plan.

This was spokesman Ari Fleischer’s response, according to the AP: “Fleischer said ‘the appropriate people’ on Capitol Hill knew of the plan. ‘I cannot speak to how Congress fully informs itself. I'm confident and the president is confident that when people pause and talk to each other on the Hill’ they will discover who was told of the administration's plan.”
<snip>

The Single Party System
By Robert Manis, March 5, 2002, "The Manis Report"
http://www-earth.tripod.com/asingleparty.html

The above snip and link is taken from this 2005 DU thread. This has been in the 'works' for a very long time. Read it and take heed - will it really be allowed to come to fruition? :shrug: It appears to all be in place though. Take the time to read the whole thread and the links:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5027094#5028754

[Wiley50]

35. God Damn These Horrible MotherFuckers!

Before their evil plans can come to fruition

[Wiley50]

40. K and R

[Mme. Defarge]

43. I put my tinfoil hat back on

a month or so ago when they started airing those creepy Laura Bush public service announcements on emergency preparedness. I'm serious, every time I see one of those TV spots the hair on the back of my neck stands on end, and my stomach knots up.

Not that being ready for an emergency isn't a good idea, it's just that my mistrust of this administration is so profound that I intuitively sense something sinsiter in this case.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. Where is mine? Need it tight

[kittykitty]

46. Anyone remember the yellow/black BOMBSHELTER symbols on public buildings? When did they go away?

Or did they. I don' know if it was in the 50's, 60's, 70's. In big cities substantial buildings would have these round symbols on them designating them as bomb shelters. I've been around a long time, and after awhile you don't notice those things. Maybe they're still there. I think they were associated with Civil Defense.

[onethatcares]

47. when the nuke shit hits the fan, all the yellow and black stickers

aren't going to do a thing for any of us. Maybe we should start practicing the getting under the desk drill again.

[Javaman]

49. DUCK! and cover! :) oh those where such fun and

frightening old days.

Yeah, let's bring those memories back, huh?

When I was in third grade I remember being out in the hallway, up against the wall and away from the windows(flying glass you know) and thinking this was really stupid.
then I heard my teacher mumbling to another teacher nearby, "what do these drills do? they're completely useless." I knew then and there I was right and everything we were told was a lie. Nixon only confirmed that.

moron* and all the preceding morons that gave their souls to the military industrial complex are now trying to revive the good old days of the cold war just so the rich can continue to make money on our fears.

This is a government by the corporation of the corporation and for the corporation.

[deutsey]

48. Whenever these rats get backed into a corner, interesting "coincidences" happen

They're losing control, which is very dangerous for us. Very dangerous.

I'm reading a book on the end of the Roman Republic and this line really resonated with me about our current situation under Bush:

The Republic had been reduced to "nothingness, a name only, without body or substance." The quote is from Suetonious, but could very well be about America, 2007.

[SaveAmerica]

50. What about the proposed attacks on Ft. Dix? I'm starting to think

there are attacks of different levels and variety being investigated all the time, some have been used at the 'pleasure of the president' when a little scare tactic is needed (reference Keith Olbermann's list of orange and red alerts when they need to cover something up they did). Another example is forcing Blair to divulge their investigation which resulted in the airline chaos and ban on liquids. There have been so many episodes to bump stupid illegal stuff they do off the news that I can't remember what was going on at that time. Could it be that information about Ft. Dix is being used to stoke the terrorism fire of fear again and help people remember that something could happen? I don't give them the benefit of a doubt anymore, I go to the worst they can do and work backwards. If that's tinfoilhattery, hand over the Reynolds Wrap.

[camero]

51. Hell, I never took mine off.

It's quite amazing isn't it?

[StarryNite]

53. They are up to no good.

They have always been up to no good. For your own protection, please keep your tinfoil hats on at all times.