NEW DOJ DOCS: Firings Were More Central To Rove & Bush Admin Than Previously Known (WaPo)

[kpete]

Voter-Fraud Complaints by GOP Drove Dismissals

Rove, in particular, was preoccupied with pressing Gonzales and his aides about alleged voting problems in a handful of battleground states, according to testimony and documents.

By Dan Eggen and Amy Goldstein
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, May 14, 2007; A04



Nearly half the U.S. attorneys slated for removal by the administration last year were targets of Republican complaints that they were lax on voter fraud, including efforts by presidential adviser Karl Rove to encourage more prosecutions of election- law violations, according to new documents and interviews.

Of the 12 U.S. attorneys known to have been dismissed or considered for removal last year, five were identified by Rove or other administration officials as working in districts that were trouble spots for voter fraud -- Kansas City, Mo.; Milwaukee; New Mexico; Nevada; and Washington state. Four of the five prosecutors in those districts were dismissed.

It has been clear for months that the administration's eagerness to launch voter-fraud prosecutions played a role in some of the firings, but recent testimony, documents and interviews show the issue was more central than previously known. The new details include the names of additional prosecutors who were targeted and other districts that were of concern, as well as previously unknown information about the White House's role.

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However, it was not clear until last week that Biskupic came close to being fired, that Graves had been asked to resign or that Justice officials had highlighted Nevada as a problem area for voter fraud. New information also emerged showing the extent to which the White House encouraged investigations of election fraud within weeks of November balloting.


much more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/13/AR2007051301106_pf.html

[MadMaddie]

1. Are these High Crimes Yet?

Rove is at the center of this, yet he has not answered to anything. It is time for an independed prosecutor ....

[aquart]

2. Subverting the electoral process? High to me.

[L. Coyote]

18. US Attorney Firing: Voter Fraud, Medicare Fraud, WHICH IS IT ???

Why were USAs fired? I discovered this new possibility:

May 10, 2006 - USA Carol Lam's Litigation: Health and Human Services Seeks to Bar Medicare and Medicade Payments to Nation's #2 Hospital chain.
May 11, 2006 - Kyle Sampson e-mails deputy White House counsel William Kelley, re "the real problem we have right now with Carol Lam ....

What is really behind the complete take over of the DoJ by politicos?

Lam = prosecuting Medicare Fraud, not voter fraud. And, Congressional corruption!!
Carol Lam was ousted and she was prosecuting big medicine = Novation, Tenet, et.al.
The same thing was going on in MO, investigation of a company Gonzales' former firm represents.

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DO NOT for one minute think that this was JUST about vote suppression!! See the BIG PICTURE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Placing politicos in DoJ jobs can subvert more aspects of the law than voting rights.
Is the 'voting fraud' SMOKE SCREEN now being used to SMOKE SCREEN
the real reasons WHY politicos are infiltratring the Justice Department????????

MORE: US Attorney Firing: Voter Fraud, Medicare Fraud, WHICH IS IT ???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x853813

MORE: 30 U.S. attorneys investigate BILKING BILLIONS, Medicare, Medicaid, Military’s Healthcare
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x877011

[sellitman]

4. You would think that.

Now convince Nancy.

[Triana]

7. The Indy Prosecutor Law Is No More...

...so not gonna happen. And don't forget the impotent Congress that refuses to go after any of this or to impeach bu$hit or to cut off funding for Iraq - The War For Oil - all of which they have the power (and even the mandate of their JOBS in balancing and checking the power of the Executive) but somehow not the will, to do.

Lazy, impotent, Congress that refuses to do its job, and NO Independent Prosecutor Law. So WHO is going to do anything about Rove, OR Iraq, OR the USAttorney scandal, OR anything else?

Nobody Home up there....Sorry.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. Impeachment?

Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

[L. Coyote]

17. ROVE is a political aide in the employ of an elected public official = BUSH

and he is a perfect scapegoat for the actions of his boss. A basic mode of operations in a criminal enterprise is to have someone do the dirty work for the boss, to protect the boss. Let's not lose sight of who the boss is be placing the spotlight on the cutout guy.

[loudsue]

21. That is precisely why congress needs to pass a law: NO PARDONS

for anyone working under the direction of the president or his staff.

There's just too much conflict of interest for a pardon to be allowed under these circumstances.

Up until the bush administration, the republicans have CONSISTENTLY used pardons to cover their criminal deeds. That has to stop, NOW.

:kick:

[calimary]

34. SKY high if you ask me.

Please, if you can, call your reps in the morning (or whenever you have a moment) - and ASK THEM!!!

Are these high crimes yet??????

You'll find TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers conveniently located in the sig line below.

[Straight Shooter]

3. "... targets of Republican complaints that they were lax on voter fraud."

It makes me wonder who urged those Republicans to make those complaints against the U.S. attorneys. I think this was a concerted effort from the word go.

Not a peep (or maybe I should say squeal) from rove about Coulter's proven voter fraud and her FBI accomplice in crime.

[EFerrari]

5. Why is the WaHoPo blending "voter fraud" with "election fraud"?

Hmm?

[bleever]

9. My reaction was that they put up both points of view,

but they were throwing the wheat and chaff up into the wind, knowing which part was going to blow away.

If I'm too optimistic...let me down easy!

[MagickMuffin]

13. That caught my attention as well

Interesting article however, I noticed that they referred to vote fraud and election fraud.

As we well know there is a BIG difference between the two.

Voter Fraud: to suppress the votes, i.e. caging lists, intimidation, stealing the vote from them (electronic voting machines) etc. etc.

Election Fraud: to rig the votes to achieve the outcome of the candidate you want to win, i.e. Absentee ballots, electronic voting machines, etc. etc.

I THINK KARL ROVE MADE THE LIST AND GAVE IT TO MONICA, so she could give it to Kyle and Gonzo....

This is going to get REALLLLLY interesting....
:popcorn: Anyone?!?!

[EFerrari]

23. I thought voter fraud is when the voter commits the fraud.

:)

[MagickMuffin]

33. You are correct

unfortunately I was extremely tired when I wrote this and didn't correct myself.

Here's some interesting research on the topic:

The Politics of Voter Fraud

Voter fraud is the “intentional corruption of the electoral process by the voter.” This definition covers knowingly and willingly giving false information to establish voter eligibility, and knowingly and willingly voting illegally or participating in a conspiracy to encourage illegal voting by others. All other forms of corruption of the electoral process and corruption committed by elected or election officials, candidates, party organizations, advocacy groups or campaign workers fall under the wider definition of election fraud.



http://www.advancementproject.org/pdfs/alerts/PoliticsofVoterFraud.pdf

I apologize to everyone for the confusion:evilgrin:

[Bitwit1234]

6. Voter Fraud??? Isn't that what Coulter did and the FBI

made a call to have it cleared up....hmmmmm....Oh I forgot...that was a republican and they want all the votes THEY can get. They only wanted to suppress Democratic votes.

[bleever]

8. They really get it now:

Ever since the contested 2000 presidential election, which ended in a Florida recount and intervention by the U.S. Supreme Court, both political parties have attempted to use election law to tip close contests to their advantage.

Through legislation and litigation, Republicans have pressed for voter-identification requirements and other rules to clamp down on what they assert is widespread fraud by ineligible voters. Starting early in the Bush administration, the Justice Department has emphasized increasing prosecutions of fraudulent voting.

Democrats counter that such fraud is rare and that GOP efforts are designed to suppress legitimate votes by minorities, the elderly and recent immigrants, who are likely to support Democratic candidates. A draft report last year by the Election Assistance Commission, a bipartisan government panel that conducts election research, said that "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud."

Even though the EAC's report was squelched by those who need "fair and balanced" to be the equivalence of "the facts, and whatever-the-hell-someone's-pushing".

:thumbsup:

[blogslut]

10. This story grows a new leg

every few days. I love that. :)

[Rev. Mother Ramallo]

11. I WANT voter fraud addressed...

...by both parties!

[ConsAreLiars]

12. "Voter Fraud" refers to a virtually non-existent event. while "Election Fraud" is very real and

includes things like denying certain groups the right to vote based on their likely political affiliations. Hyped up warnings by US district attorneys that individuals who are not fully compliant with certain obscure legal technicalities will be sent to jail if they vote is one of many Rovian tactics to suppress the votes of the underclasses, and as such is just one more type of election fraud.

[Disturbed]

14. The Dems in their non action screwed up again.

The moment it was discovered that emails were being sent on another server. other than the official Govt. one, they should have subpoened that server and confiscated the Hard Drives. This is where the evidence of Busholini Crimes are.

[Rev. Mother Ramallo]

22. I have repeatedly asked...

...for anyone here that was denied the right to vote to write in and tell their story. We have over 100K members yet no one ever has... I'd like to hear some first hand accounts.

[Sapere aude]

30. Shouldn't you work for NewsMax or something. None of your posts make any sense.

For the past week you put up straw men and ask us to knock them down. You are not looking for real answers I think.

[TheMadMonk]

31. Lists work both ways. DU membership may well protect.

If your going to suppress someone's vote, it probably behooves you to pick someone not likely to make a huge fuss. Particularly someone with thousands of mates who will make noise along side him.

[Spiffarino]

32. They target the poor

How many computers do you think the average minimum wage worker has? OK, now how many $20 per month dial-up connections?

:eyes:

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. Do you think the Palast e-mails have any play in this?

[L. Coyote]

19. They prove that BUSH and his employees committed crimes, Civil Rights Act.

That's all, just proof of felonies. :rofl:

[cyberpj]

20. US Media better start explaining this in the simplest of terms so avg. Joe can understand it. nt

[EVDebs]

24. 'Vote Fraud' is the fraud designed to cover-up the Election Fraud

that is the real GOP crime, combined with the ongoing CIA/GOP/money-spigot revealed in the Cunningham investigation, which had to be obstructed in order to keep the FBI/DOJ from exposing the 'insiders' at CIA and in Congress.

The M/I complex is self-perpetuating and feeds on $. Taxpayer $.

[WinkyDink]

25. "Voter fraud" is, itself, the real fraud.

[whistle]

26. It was known all along, but no one was talking and critical evidence

...was being withheld by BushCo.

[dogday]

27. The Democrats need to keep after this like a dog with a bone

and not let go...

[autorank]

28. .

3/12

K&R

[MasonJar]

29. It is up to us to bring about impeachment and the end to the Iraq War.

We need to deafen our reps with calls and shouts. I am going to call mine today and every other day for two weeks. Please join me.