I think Obama deserves some of the credit for Prop 8 being struck down

[Cali_Democrat]

Let's not forget that he was a vocal opponent of proposition 8 and I feel that contributed to the law being struck down.

He effectively used the bully pulpit since the passing of the law in 2008.

Thank you Mr. President.

[ruggerson]

1. DUzy! n/t

[flvegan]

2. Um...nah, nevermind.

[Fearless]

3. Umm... except the part for saying he DIDN'T support equal marriage.

Just kinda forgot that part huh. :shrug:

[Cali_Democrat]

6. Obama opposed Prop 8

http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-07-02/news/17171328_1_same-sex-marriage-civil-unions-ban-on-gay-marriage

[Fearless]

8. And doesn't support equal marriage rights.

[dsc]

4. wow just wow

talk about gall.

[scheming daemons]

7. The OP was being sarcastic

[dsc]

14. sorry my bad

[Fearless]

18. I'm gonna say probably not actually.

[scheming daemons]

5. He gets blamed for things he had nothing to do with...

...might as well get credit for something he had nothing to do with.


It's only fair.

[laconicsax]

9. I think it was the inclusion of Rick Warren at the inauguration that did it.

He effectively showed the bigots how to be inclusive and embrace your opponents.

[LostinVA]

26. hahahahaha

[Canuckistanian]

10. And I heard he got Linsay Lohan out of jail

But you didn't hear that from me.

[JI7]

11. he should get credit if it goes to supreme court and Sotomayor and Kagan

vote on the side of gay rights.

[Lost4words]

13. then and only then. nt

[sgsmith]

12. Really?

News articles appear to disagree with your rememberence.

From 2008:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1598407/20081101/story.jhtml
"I think it's unnecessary," Obama told Sway, in response to a question sent in by Gangstagigz from San Leandro, California. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about. Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them."

From 2009:
http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=29702
A new ballot initiative could put Obama and fellow Democrats in a tough position on such a controversial social issue, particularly since the homosexual community is part of his base and he has agreed with them on other issues. Last year, Obama opposed Prop 8, calling it discriminatory, while simultaneously saying he opposed "gay marriage." But if he supports the new initiative, he would make history by becoming the first president publicly to back "gay marriage." A recently uncovered document revealed that Obama supported "gay marriage" when running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996. The Los Angeles Times editorial board, in its Jan. 21 edition, said Obama's "views on the issue are an embarrassing muddle."

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2009/January/Obama-Changes-Position-on-Gay-Marriage-/
CBNNews.com - Newly released documents show that Barack Obama has taken a more conservative position on same-sex marriage since he first ran for the Illinois Senate in 1996.

While campaigning for President, Obama made it clear that he opposes gay marriage.

"I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman and I'm not in favor of gay marriage," he said.

What that means is less clear because Obama also opposes a federal marriage amendment. He also opposes California's marriage amendment, Prop 8.

Likewise, he supports civil unions and federal rights for gay couples.

[Luminous Animal]

22. +1 and thank you.

[lbrtbell]

15. Obama fanatics never cease to amaze me

First, you cover for him when he does wrong. Now, you're trying to give him credit for things he didn't even do.

Seriously, let's ditch the Justin Bieber fan mentality and look at President Obama's record.

[scheming daemons]

17. The OP is not an Obama fanatic. Turn on your sarcasm detector.

[mitchtv]

16. Bwa hahahahaha

Oh yeah loads of credit:thumbsdown: :puffpiece:

[katandmoon]

19. Yup! He and Donnie McGurkin are high fivin'!

[Touchdown]

20. Stop! I can't stand it! I'm laughing so hard it's hurting my gut!

Best joke all day! :rofl:

[Winston Wolf]

21. A Sarcasm Label Would Be Helpful

The blind obedience and deafening levels of ignorance on this website make it necessary for such comments to be followed up by a sarcasm label.

If you are serious, then you either are blind or refuse to see what's in front of you.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. Given that Obama was actually against prop 8, the joke's on you.

[VMI Dem]

24. As a self-styled fierce advocate, this will surely go his list of accomplishments.

Lets let the states decide...except by constitutional amendment.

[LostinVA]

27. +1

[LostinVA]

25. He doesn't deserve one fucking iota of credit for this

WTF

He also did NOT help us with Prop 8, has not used a bully pulpit for us, and believes a marriage is only between a man and a woman.

HE HASN'T EVEN CONGRATULATED US ON THIS WIN.

I hope you forgot the fucking sarcasm smiley.

[treestar]

28. A judge has to make a decision according to the law

They decide what they believe the law is.