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Wed Aug-04-10 11:30 PM
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this is almost 1000 years. You know what amazes me, that is where the right to speedy trials, and to face your accusers come from. Just reading it while preparing some class material... http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/magna_carta/translation.html |
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Wed Aug-04-10 11:37 PM
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| 1. Yep. The nobles against King John. |
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I don't have it in front of me, but was it at all concerned with the working people?
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Wed Aug-04-10 11:47 PM
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For yeomen, at least. Merchants, of course - freemen in general. Not so much for the bottom tier of society.
nadinb . . . do you use the Declaration of Arbroath in your classes? I love that one.
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Thu Aug-05-10 12:06 AM
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| 4. I'll search it for the sake of shit and giggles |
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Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 12:09 AM by nadinbrzezinski
right now in the process of writing them, and I am hoping to start teaching this semester.
Oh and thanks just learned something new tonight... saved it on evernote, print it tomorrow and go through it.
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Wed Aug-04-10 11:54 PM
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| 3. The working people weren't really recognized as people yet at the time |
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Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 11:55 PM by Posteritatis
The precedents - and around here I should probably apologize for using the term - trickled down over the centuries, as each group got used to a set of new rights, got pressured by those 'below' them for something similar, and pressured those 'above' them for more freedoms in turn.
OP's link has the full text.
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Thu Aug-05-10 12:10 AM
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| 5. I did that on purpose and a modern translation I should add |
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Last time I checked my Proto English, or Latin were all but existent.
:hi:
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Thu Aug-05-10 01:46 AM
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| 6. Yah. I was thinking how little they got out of the Big Charter |
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And how they made it work for them over time. Which I will try to use as comfort over the half-assed piss poor legislation that's been oozing out of Congress.
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Thu Aug-05-10 01:49 AM
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| 7. If you read the small print... |
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some exclusions apply*
*not valid in Guantanamo Cuba, Iraq, Afghanistan and numerous undisclosed locations.
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Thu Aug-05-10 01:19 PM
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| 8. How forwards looking of King John |
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someday a President... Bishop what in the Lord's name is a President anyway? will take away Habeas Corpus!!!!
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